Why has there not been more backlash for Bielema's comments

[Southpointhog]

"If he's holding his knee or he's holding his wrist, or he's bent over, he's holding his leg or he's working his ankle out, go after that baby," Bielema said Monday at his weekly news conference. "When I was a wrestler and you've got a brace on, I'm going after your ass, you know?
"That's the mentality I think that we have to establish."




How should I take it?

Go away you dang Hater!

Tired of this crap!  If the guy talked like a wimp, you would Bi***!  Come on!  CBP is gone.....Nutt man is gone!

[Reservoir Hogs]

I"m just calling a spade a spade.

Thats racist!

[Ex-Trumpet]

well its a double standard he has, he can't claim to be a coach who prides player safety then proclaim he wants to target injuries. It's ridiculous. Even if that is a common football philosophy, smart coaches know to keep their mouth shut. You just don't say that kind of stuff in the public spotlight. And sure enough look whats happened, he's had the media all over him attacking him and rightfully so. It's idiotic to say what he said publicly. He should know better. He is not the best public speaker we've had as a coach

Context...it means a great deal.  How would you like it if the media took your "calling a spade a spade" comment out of context? 

[collins4heisman]

the Bielema quote was originally about our players being worn down after a tough 4qtr game...he challenged them to persevere. Then he went on to explain what he did Back when he was a defensive coordinator and the whole wrestler mentality.

The whole point was about not showing your weakness and attacking theirs but people just ran with the piece of the quote that made him seem like he wants to break someone's leg.

but thats not what he said and he made it quite clear. He didn't just say "go after a fatigued player". He specifically said target a specific injury like a "leg, knee, wrist". How are you people not getting this? did you not even read the quote?

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Say our right guard or whoever was gassed and limping but our coaches left him in there because we had no alternative.  Then Gus's D  continually attacks that spot and has success.  Some on here would be jumping up and down proclaiming how that is pure coaching and realizing your opponents weakness and relentlessly attacking it.  They would say why isn't Bielema like that why doesn't he have that killer instinct.

I read a tweet or post that said BB could say the sky is blue and someone would call him an ahole.

If all you are going to do is constantly pick at every single frickin thing the man does go start your own board and call it ihatebielemamyselfandmysmallpenisville.net

[LAHogfan123]

Good grief, y'all will bitch at everything CBB says.  This is Football, not golf.  Every Coach that coaches the game and every player that plays should have this mentality, it means you sense blood in the water and you strive to take out your opponent.  You're not wanting to further injure a player, but if I can take you out of the game, you're going out.  It happens every single play, every single dogpile, but go ahead, pussify the game up even more than it already has been.

[Jek Tono Porkins]

your idiotic statement did nothing to prove Im wrong. All I need is one sentence to prove my point because he makes his statement quite clear and specific in that quote. He clearly says to he wants our players to target an injured players' injury. What part of that do you is taken out of context? And no I'm not attacking anyone I"m just calling a spade a spade. I still support this team of course

Do you understand what the word "context" means?

[Choctaw Hog]

Most of our fans on here are just college kids.....so try and remember that when dealing with these idiots They are in the know it all phase.

I think most on here are jealous wannabes that never were. They have no clue what it takes to coach and compete at the college level in any sport so they nit-pick at anything and everything because it somehow makes them feel important.

In reality all it does is reveal just how big of a loser they really are.

[Hoggish1]

For those of you who are so clueless that you don't understand this concept do the rest of us a favor and find a new hobby.

However, the majority of those who chose to attack Bielema for this know exactly what he meant. They want him gone and they will use every opportunity to go after him.

The people who manage this board have already removed many of the people with an anti Bielema bias from this board. Others will soon go.

This season is about trying to enjoy Razorback football and the process of trying to rebuild the program from the disaster of 2012. Lanny is not going to let fans who want Gus, or Bobby or Nutt to be coaching this team to ruin the season for everybody else.

The hammer will continue to fall on those people. Hogville is not the place for their anti Bielema agenda and they are fooling no one.

Amen a thousand times over.  Let the hammer fall because these jerks are only here for one purpose and it shouldn't be allowed. 

Anybody who has been on another team's board and tries to get away with constant attack of their coach knows they wouldn't last a minute over there.  Why should it be any different here?

[collins4heisman]

Context...it means a great deal.  How would you like it if the media took your "calling a spade a spade" comment out of context?

I'm still waiting on you guys to tell me what specifically was taken out of context and you can't do it. Look at the quote again if you don't get it. He specifically said target the injury, he even said "knee, leg, ankle, wrist" etc. what part do you disagree with?

[Ex-Trumpet]

I'm still waiting on you guys to tell me what specifically was taken out of context and you can't do it. Look at the quote again if you don't get it. He specifically said target the injury, he even said "knee, leg, ankle, wrist" etc. what part do you disagree with?

You have got to be kidding...

[The_Iceman]

Perhaps a few people posting in this thread are so clueless that they interpret what he said as a green light for targeting the injury itself. Neither Bret Bielema or any other coach or fan is responsible for their ignorance of the sport of football.

Most do get it. Most clearly understand that he's saying if a cornerback is slowed by a foot or leg injury throw the football in his direction.

If a defensive tackle is running out of gas, the guy blocking him tells the quarterback and they start running the football right at him.

If a player has a major injury his own coaches are going to get him off the field. If the problem is minor they may choose to leave him out there and if they do the other team is going to try to take advantage of that situation.

Heaven forbid that Bret Bielema says publicly what every coach and player on the planet knows.

For those of you who are so clueless that you don't understand this concept do the rest of us a favor and find a new hobby.

However, the majority of those who chose to attack Bielema for this know exactly what he meant. They want him gone and they will use every opportunity to go after him.

The people who manage this board have already removed many of the people with an anti Bielema bias from this board. Others will soon go.

This season is about trying to enjoy Razorback football and the process of trying to rebuild the program from the disaster of 2012. Lanny is not going to let fans who want Gus, or Bobby or Nutt to be coaching this team to ruin the season for everybody else.

The hammer will continue to fall on those people. Hogville is not the place for their anti Bielema agenda and they are fooling no one.

Just wanted to quote this again because it was so good, and obviously some people need to read it again.

Mike Irwin, as always, you are right on the money.

[Hogmeier]

to attack an injured player?  Isn't this guy the champion of player safety?

Horton...Is that you?

[collins4heisman]

Good grief, y'all will bitch at everything CBB says.  This is Football, not golf.  Every Coach that coaches the game and every player that plays should have this mentality, it means you sense blood in the water and you strive to take out your opponent.  You're not wanting to further injure a player, but if I can take you out of the game, you're going out.  It happens every single play, every single dogpile, but go ahead, pussify the game up even more than it already has been.

"not wanting to injure a player"? well unfortunately that's exactly what happens when you target an injury. Remember he didn't just say target the player, he said target the injury specifically. Therefor likely causing further injury to that body part.

[Choctaw Hog]

This guy just needs to keep his mouth shut, his head down and go coach football. If he ever wins 10 games here he can think about becoming a loudmouth again..... jeeez

What about 3-9 does he not get?

You need to keep your mouth shut and your idiotic opinions to yourself.

[GlassofSwine]

well its a double standard he has, he can't claim to be a coach who prides player safety then proclaim he wants to target injuries. It's ridiculous. Even if that is a common football philosophy, smart coaches know to keep their mouth shut. You just don't say that kind of stuff in the public spotlight. And sure enough look whats happened, he's had the media all over him attacking him and rightfully so. It's idiotic to say what he said publicly. He should know better. He is not the best public speaker we've had as a coach

  He's not talking about targeting injuries to make them worse. How do you not understand that? The whole game is based around finding a teams weakness and exploiting it. If a player is playing that is hurt enough to effect his own performance than you challenge that player.
 

[collins4heisman]

Do you understand what the word "context" means?

yes thats why I provided the quote and explained how the quote means exactly what it says. You have yet to explain to me how it was taken out of context. He specifically said in the quote to go after the injury, not just the player.

[Hogmeier]

Can we please trash this thread? It's giving me a headache!

[collins4heisman]

  He's not talking about targeting injuries to make them worse. How do you not understand that? The whole game is based around finding a teams weakness and exploiting it. If a player is playing that is hurt enough to effect his own performance than you challenge that player.

how do you know he doesn't mean that? Thats exactly what happens when you specifically target an injury.  If a player hurt his knee on a play, and I target that same knee on the next play, its common sense that the knee will likely get hurt further because I targeted it. How are you not getting this? Remember he didn't just say target the player, he said target the injury. When you target an injury it likely will get injured worse. Is this statement wrong? Injuries don't get worse if you intentionally target it?

[Ex-Trumpet]

yes thats why I provided the quote and explained how the quote means exactly what it says. You have yet to explain to me how it was taken out of context. He specifically said in the quote to go after the injury, not just the player.

"I"m just calling a spade a spade."

Your words, exactly what it says.  You are clearly a racist.

[Do you understand context yet?]

[MiHogsMi]

I didn't comment because I figured I'd get banned or something.  I'm telling you, this coach of ours is a loose cannon.  He has embarrassed the program from the very beginning with his mouth, twitter and losing streaks.

The entire nation sees it, all except the Hogville sunshine pumpers.  This last comment only demonstrates the lies and hipocrisy of his earlier comments about HUNH player safety etc...

This guy is unreal.  We are in for a long ride as he is going NOWHERE.  Jeff Long wouldn't tarnish his own reputation by firing CBB even if we don't win another SEC game this year or next.

[collins4heisman]

You have got to be kidding...

lol exactly, nice dodge. You can't explain your stance at all other than just posting idiotic sarcastic statements. lol you

[Catfish Joe]

I took it as we have to exploit the other teams weaknesses, and I wholeheartedly agree 110%!! If it's a legal hit and you can put a player on the other team out of the game go for it. Our players job is NOT to help other players on other teams get to the NFL or stay healthy. Their job is to win. Again, let me put emphasis on LEGAL. I'm not at all for dirty hits, just good, clean, legal, VERY HARD hits!

[Choctaw Hog]

Burt has never won an SEC game, but he's got the loudest mouth in the conference. It's funny.

What would be funny is to see loudmouths like you tell Coach Bielema to his face that he's a loudmouth. In fact, losers like you don't have the balls to tell anyone to their face they are a loudmouth.

You and other losers like you would $hit their pants if confronted over you bravado posts.

[GlassofSwine]

yes thats why I provided the quote and explained how the quote means exactly what it says. You have yet to explain to me how it was taken out of context. He specifically said in the quote to go after the injury, not just the player.

  The problem isn't the quote, it is that your reading comprehension of the quote.It appears you suffer from the same affliction as Drax in "Guardians of the Galaxy". Figurative speech and metaphors fly right by you.  Go read Mike Irwin's response, it is the best in the thread. If you still don't understand than no one can help you.

[Ex-Trumpet]

lol exactly, nice dodge. You can't explain your stance at all other than just posting idiotic sarcastic statements. lol you

You've been shown over and over...you are either incredibly slow or you're just being obtuse.  Either way, I'm done here.  Carry on! 

[collins4heisman]

Just wanted to quote this again because it was so good, and obviously some people need to read it again.

Mike Irwin, as always, you are right on the money.

I have a lot of respect for Mike Irwin but just because he says it doesnt' mean its right. I also support Bret Bielema and this team. I am just standing up for what is right. I would be saying the same thing no matter who was our coach.  Its illogical to assume that everyone who is upset with this quote is just out on a witch hunt to attack Bielema. Its just a way to try to discredit people who you disagree with

[GlassofSwine]

how do you know he doesn't mean that? Thats exactly what happens when you specifically target an injury.  If a player hurt his knee on a play, and I target that same knee on the next play, its common sense that the knee will likely get hurt further because I targeted it. How are you not getting this? Remember he didn't just say target the player, he said target the injury. When you target an injury it likely will get injured worse. Is this statement wrong? Injuries don't get worse if you intentionally target it?

Targeting an injury doesn't mean you have to hit it to exploit it. If you hurt your knee and your coach keeps you on the field than you have a couple things to look at:

1. Hurt is not "Injured" and if you are injured than it is your coaches who are responsible for putting you on the field with an increased risk of further injury.

2. If you hurt your knee, I can exploit by doing more than hitting it. I can target the fact that your knee is going to limit your movement and run plays at you exploiting the injury.

3. Common sense - Have you ever seen an Arkansas player under Bielema purposely try to injure someone? If the answer is "no" then your argument loses credibility. If Bielema was truly trying to injure players don't you think we would be seeing that on the field every week?

[hellwonthaveme]

In the most negative way possible?  Seems to fit

If I was on the field, I would be trying to snatch hold of the injured knee also.....BUT.....

Bret keeps sticking his foot in his mouth. Wants all players safe and then he starts talking out the other end with trying to further injure a player....the duality of Bret Bielema...

I am beginning to believe Bret can't remember what he says from one week to the next.

PRJ

[ricepig]

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!

Well, the injured player can sub himself out if he chooses, correct?

[hellwonthaveme]

Targeting an injury doesn't mean you have to hit it to exploit it. If you hurt your knee and your coach keeps you on the field than you have a couple things to look at:

1. Hurt is not "Injured" and if you are injured than it is your coaches who are responsible for putting you on the field with an increased risk of further injury.

2. If you hurt your knee, I can exploit by doing more than hitting it. I can target the fact that your knee is going to limit your movement and run plays at you exploiting the injury.

3. Common sense - Have you ever seen an Arkansas player under Bielema purposely try to injure someone? If the answer is "no" then your argument loses credibility. If Bielema was truly trying to injure players don't you think we would be seeing that on the field every week?

This is absolutely laughable.....I mean absolutely....

PRJ

[collins4heisman]

You've been shown over and over...you are either incredibly slow or you're just being obtuse.  Either way, I'm done here.  Carry on! 

I've been shown what over and over? the only thing you've shown me over and over is that you aren't capable of having an educated intellectual discussion and instead resort to immature sarcasm.  I've shown you over and over that his quote specifically says he wants his players to target injuries, not just the player. I have a lot of respect for Mike Irwin but his statement in regards to this is flat out wrong. The quote speaks for itself and if you think it's taken out of context than you are just flat out in denial. The quote is very specific- "If he's holding his knee or he's holding his wrist, or he's bent over, he's holding his leg or he's working his ankle out, go after that baby," 

again, the quote clearly says go after the injury whether it be the "knee, wrist, leg, or anke" "go after that baby".  I feel like I'm teaching grammar to a 2nd grader

[Mike Irwin]

how do you know he doesn't mean that?

Because he understands football and he understands coaches. You either get it or you don't or you have an agenda. This is not rocket science.

[chitwnhog]

"I"m just calling a spade a spade."

Your words, exactly what it says.  You are clearly a racist.

[Do you understand context yet?]

Nope...he doesn't get it.

[GlassofSwine]

This is absolutely laughable.....I mean absolutely....

PRJ

Than respond with intelligence and state why you disagree. Otherwise your comment is even worse.

[bphi11ips]

The people who manage this board have already removed many of the people with an anti Bielema bias from this board. Others will soon go.

This season is about trying to enjoy Razorback football and the process of trying to rebuild the program from the disaster of 2012. Lanny is not going to let fans who want Gus, or Bobby or Nutt to be coaching this team to ruin the season for everybody else.

The hammer will continue to fall on those people. Hogville is not the place for their anti Bielema agenda and they are fooling no one.

Wow.

Bielema's comment is a non-issue, but the OP raises a legitimate question.  Personally, nothing Bielema has ever said bothers me.  He's a football coach, not a political speech writer.  Who cares what he says as long as it's football related and not something that embarrasses the University or the state of Arkansas?  Some believe Lou Holtz crossed that line when he endorsed race-mongerer Jesse Helms.  Fair enough. 

But, the disturbing thing about this thread is not the OP, but Mike Irwin's response to it and the huzzahs it elicits above.  You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who spent more time than I spent last season explaining why Bret Bielema is a good fit for Arkansas and its demographic.  I haven't wavered in that belief, nor have I wavered in my belief that it will take 4 to 5 years to implement his concept.  However, I respect that other Razorbacks fans don't share my conviction, and I respect that their reasoning includes valid criticism and concerns. 

It's pretty easy to identify when a "hater" crosses the line.  I spent hours and hours last year deflecting ridiculously hateful and poorly reasoned posts by a bowfisherman from Little Rock.  Why?  I don't know.  The guy should have been banned, but he wasn't.  I didn't want him to influence any more posters and lurkers here than possible. 

I enjoy posting here or I wouldn't do it.  But I am not inclined to follow the groupthink.  That doesn't mean I disagree just because an opinion is widely held. I'm not a contrarian, just one fan with opinions and a forum to express them in.  And I do so when the spirit moves me and time allows.

I can't believe Lanny intends to remove anyone with an "anti-Bielema bias from this board."  How important was the anti-HDN bias that surfaced here before that was cool?  That's not to say we have reason to be anti-Bielema.  I don't believe we do.  But as long as posters are civil, they should be allowed to express their opinions.  If those opinions don't jive with yours and you are offended by them, I read here the other day that the ignore button is back. 

Nothing that I have ever read on this board, and nothing that I will ever read on this board, will have any effect whatsoever on my enjoyment of Razorbacks football.  On the other hand, I have learned from Hogville that I don't care much for many of our fans.  There's an awful lot of spitefulness among brethren that I never knew existed before I stumbled onto Hogville mid-way through the 2006 season.  In retrospect, I was just a naïve Arkansas fan who thought we were the most united and greatest fanbase in all of sports.  Turns out that belief was an illusion. 

If Lanny wants to homogenize the poster base here, that is his prerogative, but in my opinion, that will only serve to diminish Hogville's influence.  The variety of opinions and information encouraged here is what has made Hogville the place to go first for breaking Razorbacks news.  That is also what has made Hogville a barometer on the pulse of Razorbacks fans.     

     

[Ex-Trumpet]

I've been shown what over and over? the only thing you've shown me over and over is that you aren't capable of having an educated intellectual discussion and instead resort to immature sarcasm.  I've shown you over and over that his quote specifically says he wants his players to target injuries, not just the player. I have a lot of respect for Mike Irwin but his statement in regards to this is flat out wrong. The quote speaks for itself and if you think it's taken out of context than you are just flat out in denial. The quote is very specific- "If he's holding his knee or he's holding his wrist, or he's bent over, he's holding his leg or he's working his ankle out, go after that baby," 

again, the quote clearly says go after the injury whether it be the "knee, wrist, leg, or anke" "go after that baby".  I feel like I'm teaching grammar to a 2nd grader

So, do you believe he is actually suggesting that they go after babies as well?  It is, after all, clearly what he said!

[colbs]

Threads like this prove Clay Travis is right about Arkansas fans.

[snoblind]

What everyone should note in this thread is how many of the posts attacking BB are being made by very very recently joined members of Hogville. And, even more interesting, many that joined back in late 2006 and early 2007, or joined around April 1 2012, made a few posts, and then have had no activity until the last week or so.  Very odd.

Not odd at all.  We both know why that is.

[Ex-Trumpet]

Threads like this prove Clay Travis is right about Arkansas fans.

This may be the best post in this thread yet! 

[collins4heisman]

Targeting an injury doesn't mean you have to hit it to exploit it. If you hurt your knee and your coach keeps you on the field than you have a couple things to look at:

1. Hurt is not "Injured" and if you are injured than it is your coaches who are responsible for putting you on the field with an increased risk of further injury.

2. If you hurt your knee, I can exploit by doing more than hitting it. I can target the fact that your knee is going to limit your movement and run plays at you exploiting the injury.

3. Common sense - Have you ever seen an Arkansas player under Bielema purposely try to injure someone? If the answer is "no" then your argument loses credibility. If Bielema was truly trying to injure players don't you think we would be seeing that on the field every week?

targeting an injury does exactly mean that you exploit it, thats exactly why he said "you go after that baby". That means you go after the injury. Now sure it might not mean that to you, but that's clearly what Bielema said and clearly what he meant. If thats not what he meant, he is an idiot for saying something he didnt mean so either way it falls back on him.  And no my argument doesn't lose credibility just because I haven't specifically seen it, you just made that equation up. Most fans don't look for that kind of stuff every play, that kind of stuff is so extremely suttle that no one would ever really pick up on it except the players and coaches on the opposing sidelines. The only time I've ever seen it happen in a football game was when Auburn DT Fairly targeted Mallet's injured arm. I remember how furious hog fans were when that happened. Now the tables have turned and we are the ones doing the same thing, but now its suddenly justifiable just because it's our coach.

[Mike Irwin]

I've been shown what over and over? the only thing you've shown me over and over is that you aren't capable of having an educated intellectual discussion and instead resort to immature sarcasm.  I've shown you over and over that his quote specifically says he wants his players to target injuries, not just the player. I have a lot of respect for Mike Irwin but his statement in regards to this is flat out wrong. The quote speaks for itself and if you think it's taken out of context than you are just flat out in denial. The quote is very specific- "If he's holding his knee or he's holding his wrist, or he's bent over, he's holding his leg or he's working his ankle out, go after that baby," 

again, the quote clearly says go after the injury whether it be the "knee, wrist, leg, or anke" "go after that baby".  I feel like I'm teaching grammar to a 2nd grader

If he said, we're gonna make that injury worse or, we're going to hurt him some more, you might have a point.

I've sat in a locker-room and watched a coach point out specific players on film that were slowed by various injuries. I've had them say, go after him. I never one time took that as, target the injury.

This is a simple football concept that you don't get. Players do get it. There's not much I can do about that.

[onebadrubi]

targeting an injury does exactly mean that you exploit it, thats exactly why he said "you go after that baby". That means you go after the injury. Now sure it might not mean that to you, but that's clearly what Bielema said and clearly what he meant. If thats not what he meant, he is an idiot for saying something he didnt mean so either way it falls back on him.  And no my argument doesn't lose credibility just because I haven't specifically seen it, you just made that equation up. Most fans don't look for that kind of stuff every play, that kind of stuff is so extremely suttle that no one would ever really pick up on it except the players and coaches on the opposing sidelines. The only time I've ever seen it happen in a football game was when Auburn DT Fairly targeted Mallet's injured arm. I remember how furious hog fans were when that happened. Now the tables have turned and we are the ones doing the same thing, but now its suddenly justifiable just because it's our coach.

Hey troll.  You are barking up the stupid tree

[secneahog]

Either you have a killer mentality or you don't. In my fighting career if my opponent got a cut on his face, I'm doing everything to try and open the cut up.

If I hit my opponent with a blow and hurt him, I'm going to attack him. I want to win.

When I played middle linebacker, and a oline man was limping on his left leg, by god I'm going to attack on the left side and make a play in the backfield.

Bielema is trying to instill a killer mentality with this young team.

I love what he said. If you don't like it .....tough!!  Wear your dress for gameday!

[Jek Tono Porkins]

I've been shown what over and over? the only thing you've shown me over and over is that you aren't capable of having an educated intellectual discussion and instead resort to immature sarcasm.  I've shown you over and over that his quote specifically says he wants his players to target injuries, not just the player. I have a lot of respect for Mike Irwin but his statement in regards to this is flat out wrong. The quote speaks for itself and if you think it's taken out of context than you are just flat out in denial. The quote is very specific- "If he's holding his knee or he's holding his wrist, or he's bent over, he's holding his leg or he's working his ankle out, go after that baby," 

again, the quote clearly says go after the injury whether it be the "knee, wrist, leg, or anke" "go after that baby".  I feel like I'm teaching grammar to a 2nd grader

What makes you think "that baby" refers to the injury? Clearly, "that baby" refers to the player, seeing as how the player is the subject of the sentence. This is further confirmed by Bielema's wrestling analogy.

Learn how to read.

[secneahog]

targeting an injury does exactly mean that you exploit it, thats exactly why he said "you go after that baby". That means you go after the injury. Now sure it might not mean that to you, but that's clearly what Bielema said and clearly what he meant. If thats not what he meant, he is an idiot for saying something he didnt mean so either way it falls back on him.  And no my argument doesn't lose credibility just because I haven't specifically seen it, you just made that equation up. Most fans don't look for that kind of stuff every play, that kind of stuff is so extremely suttle that no one would ever really pick up on it except the players and coaches on the opposing sidelines. The only time I've ever seen it happen in a football game was when Auburn DT Fairly targeted Mallet's injured arm. I remember how furious hog fans were when that happened. Now the tables have turned and we are the ones doing the same thing, but now its suddenly justifiable just because it's our coach.

It's MalleTT smart guy.

[GlassofSwine]

targeting an injury does exactly mean that you exploit it, thats exactly why he said "you go after that baby". That means you go after the injury. Now sure it might not mean that to you, but that's clearly what Bielema said and clearly what he meant. If thats not what he meant, he is an idiot for saying something he didnt mean so either way it falls back on him.  And no my argument doesn't lose credibility just because I haven't specifically seen it, you just made that equation up. Most fans don't look for that kind of stuff every play, that kind of stuff is so extremely suttle that no one would ever really pick up on it except the players and coaches on the opposing sidelines. The only time I've ever seen it happen in a football game was when Auburn DT Fairly targeted Mallet's injured arm. I remember how furious hog fans were when that happened. Now the tables have turned and we are the ones doing the same thing, but now its suddenly justifiable just because it's our coach.

Arguments with no evidence have no credibility. BTW, It is not subtle when you target someone with the intention of hurting them. Especially considering we get instant replays in slow-motion from multiple angles every-time someone gets injured.

[PonderinHog]

What if it's a tumor

[collins4heisman]

Because he understands football and he understands coaches. You either get it or you don't or you have an agenda. This is not rocket science.

Mike I have a lot of respect for you and this program and I support coach Bielema so in no way do I have an agenda and as I said earlier I would be saying the same thing no matter who the coach is here. I just respectfully disagree based on what Bielema blatantly said. He clearly said "you go after that baby" when he was clearly referring to an injury because he said "knee, arm, ancle or wrist". So clearly he is not just saying to go after a fatigued player, he makes it clear to target their injury. It's common sense that if you target an injury it's going to get hurt worse.  This is what Auburn DT Fairly did against Mallet when Wilson had to replace him. Unfortunately coaches do tell their players to do this, but most smart coaches just don't say it out in the open because it makes the program look bad. I know it's your job to sugar coat these things and I know its a hard reality to accept but its the truth and Bielema has made that quite clear despite the thick layers of denial our fans have. Regardless, I'll be in the stands tomorrow cheering on our team to a victory.

[collins4heisman]

Not odd at all.  We both know why that is.

No, some people have better things to do and don't waste their time constantly on an internet message board. What are you even trying to suggest?