Lines for this weekend other than the Hogs?

[Conway Cool Daddy]

South Florida does one thing exceptionally well that makes them a good bet;  they force turnovers.

I'll take them to cover over WVA; they may win the game outright.   I have been extremely underwhelmed by WVA to date, and if they put the ball on the ground a couple of times, this game could end up a USF win.  Take the USF kids and the 7 points.

Look for Duke to cover;  they're on fire after winning one, and nearly winning a second,  and Miami still has kinks on offense.  24 and a half is just too many points in this one.

Hawaii will cover easily against Idaho, needing only 26 more points.

I like Eastern Michigan to cover their 21 spread against Vandy.

Arkansas kicks 15 field goals, but fails to cover against UNT because of a bad quarter of defense.  36 is just too many.

Washington is better than a 21.5 point dog;  the last time USC visited Seattle, they squeaked out with a win.   Look for USC to fail to cover this game.


Lost in the epic Minnesota collapse this season is the fact their offense is still scoring more than *30* a game.     I'll give OSU a 15-20 point benefit for being a lot better than the defenses they've played this year, but do you really count on the Buckeyes scoring more than 35 points?   OSU fails to cover a 24 point spread.

Indiana covers against a terrible Iowa offense, too.  Iowa scores a shade over 19 PPG;  Indiana averages a shade under 37.   Iowa may lose this one outright, but I doubt it--  but certainly doesn't cover the 11.5 point spread.

Is Hawaii's QB still out?

[Bomis Hawg]

Brennan tweaked his ankle again this week.  He says he is fine.  Playing in the Kibbie Dome and away from Hawai'i might be a concern.

June Jones did have good things to say about Tyler Graunke's performance last week. 

[ErieHog]

Brennan tweaked his ankle again this week.  He says he is fine.  Playing in the Kibbie Dome and away from Hawai'i might be a concern.

June Jones did have good things to say about Tyler Graunke's performance last week. 

Idaho isn't a high powered offense under the best of circumstances;  I'd still take the 26 with the backup.

[anthonytkr]

Wow, how did ASU come back? It gave me a push but at 31-6 at half ill take it! Had Boise St and over, and teased Boise state with NT+42.  Still like West V tonight going away.

[Michael11]

Wow, how did ASU come back? It gave me a push but at 31-6 at half ill take it! Had Boise St and over, and teased Boise state with NT+42.  Still like West V tonight going away.

I like WV going away as well. I did ok last night i had memphis teased to plus 11.5 so i hit it easily. I left the Boise game alone and glad I did b/c i probably would have took Southern Miss and the points!

[Bomis Hawg]

Brennan tweaked his ankle again this week.  He says he is fine.  Playing in the Kibbie Dome and away from Hawai'i might be a concern.

June Jones did have good things to say about Tyler Graunke's performance last week. 

Idaho isn't a high powered offense under the best of circumstances;  I'd still take the 26 with the backup.

I tend to agree.  Deonte Jackson is doubtful for Idaho.  Idaho gives up nearly as many yards as Hawai'i does.  170+ passing.  26 is a big line, even for Hawaii playing Idaho.  The Warriors are probably the right pick, though.

[Hogginitall]

Wow, how did ASU come back? It gave me a push but at 31-6 at half ill take it! Had Boise St and over, and teased Boise state with NT+42.  Still like West V tonight going away.

I like WV going away as well. I did ok last night i had memphis teased to plus 11.5 so i hit it easily. I left the Boise game alone and glad I did b/c i probably would have took Southern Miss and the points!

I did okay as well.  I had ASU -4.5 (wish I would've gotten it earlier, or ASU would've played a little in the first half).  That really sucked.  But, I also had Boise and covered that one pretty easily.  It was a split for me.

[anthonytkr]

Wow, how did ASU come back? It gave me a push but at 31-6 at half ill take it! Had Boise St and over, and teased Boise state with NT+42.  Still like West V tonight going away.

I like WV going away as well. I did ok last night i had memphis teased to plus 11.5 so i hit it easily. I left the Boise game alone and glad I did b/c i probably would have took Southern Miss and the points!

I did okay as well.  I had ASU -4.5 (wish I would've gotten it earlier, or ASU would've played a little in the first half).  That really sucked.  But, I also had Boise and covered that one pretty easily.  It was a split for me.

There is just to much hype on SF tonite, i mean WV is still WV. It is a national game, WV got no #1 votes and are out to make a statement and avenge last years loss.  SF is a great team, and i will still take them every other game. Remember all the hype on VT playing LSU and we know what happend there, i see a repeat.

[ErieHog]

Wow, how did ASU come back? It gave me a push but at 31-6 at half ill take it! Had Boise St and over, and teased Boise state with NT+42.  Still like West V tonight going away.

I like WV going away as well. I did ok last night i had memphis teased to plus 11.5 so i hit it easily. I left the Boise game alone and glad I did b/c i probably would have took Southern Miss and the points!

I did okay as well.  I had ASU -4.5 (wish I would've gotten it earlier, or ASU would've played a little in the first half).  That really sucked.  But, I also had Boise and covered that one pretty easily.  It was a split for me.

There is just to much hype on SF tonite, i mean WV is still WV. It is a national game, WV got no #1 votes and are out to make a statement and avenge last years loss.  SF is a great team, and i will still take them every other game. Remember all the hype on VT playing LSU and we know what happend there, i see a repeat.

The difference between that game and tonight's game is that LSU was a complete team.  WVA's defense has looked exceedingly average against some less than stellar competition.

The key for WVA winning tonight is avoiding turnovers, and keeping USF out of the End Zone when they do reach the Red Zone.

[Hogginitall]

Wow, how did ASU come back? It gave me a push but at 31-6 at half ill take it! Had Boise St and over, and teased Boise state with NT+42.  Still like West V tonight going away.

I like WV going away as well. I did ok last night i had memphis teased to plus 11.5 so i hit it easily. I left the Boise game alone and glad I did b/c i probably would have took Southern Miss and the points!

I did okay as well.  I had ASU -4.5 (wish I would've gotten it earlier, or ASU would've played a little in the first half).  That really sucked.  But, I also had Boise and covered that one pretty easily.  It was a split for me.

There is just to much hype on SF tonite, i mean WV is still WV. It is a national game, WV got no #1 votes and are out to make a statement and avenge last years loss.  SF is a great team, and i will still take them every other game. Remember all the hype on VT playing LSU and we know what happend there, i see a repeat.

The difference between that game and tonight's game is that LSU was a complete team.  WVA's defense has looked exceedingly average against some less than stellar competition.

The key for WVA winning tonight is avoiding turnovers, and keeping USF out of the End Zone when they do reach the Red Zone.

That's why I think South Florida keeps it close and may win it outright.  They have a stout defense with a good offense.  WVU has a very good offense, but a weak defense in my opinion.  They've done better in the past couple of weeks.  But, I still think they are weak and it will show tonight.

[ErieHog]

Wow, how did ASU come back? It gave me a push but at 31-6 at half ill take it! Had Boise St and over, and teased Boise state with NT+42.  Still like West V tonight going away.

I like WV going away as well. I did ok last night i had memphis teased to plus 11.5 so i hit it easily. I left the Boise game alone and glad I did b/c i probably would have took Southern Miss and the points!

I did okay as well.  I had ASU -4.5 (wish I would've gotten it earlier, or ASU would've played a little in the first half).  That really sucked.  But, I also had Boise and covered that one pretty easily.  It was a split for me.

There is just to much hype on SF tonite, i mean WV is still WV. It is a national game, WV got no #1 votes and are out to make a statement and avenge last years loss.  SF is a great team, and i will still take them every other game. Remember all the hype on VT playing LSU and we know what happend there, i see a repeat.

The difference between that game and tonight's game is that LSU was a complete team.  WVA's defense has looked exceedingly average against some less than stellar competition.

The key for WVA winning tonight is avoiding turnovers, and keeping USF out of the End Zone when they do reach the Red Zone.

That's why I think South Florida keeps it close and my win outright.  They have a stout defense with a good offense.  WVU has a very good offense, but a weak defense in my opinion.  They've done better in the past couple of weeks.  But, I still think they are weak and it will show tonight.

I wouldn't even call it weak;  I'd say its merely average.   That just isn't good enough to get it done against one of the better offensive lines, and possibly the best Sophomore QB in America.

[hogfan7583]

south florida and west virginia take the overs on the points at 57

[Hogginitall]

south florida and west virginia take the overs on the points at 57

I actually kind of like the UNDER.  South Florida's defense should be able to slow down WVU's offense a bit.  And, although I'm not sold on WVU's defense, I don't think you can say that South Florida has a hugely potent offense.  Also, the only two times these teams have played, they've yet to go over 43 points.  The scores were 24-19 last year and 28-13 in 2005.  I like it to go UNDER.

[ErieHog]

south florida and west virginia take the overs on the points at 57

I actually kind of like the UNDER.  South Florida's defense should be able to slow down WVU's offense a bit.  And, although I'm not sold on WVU's defense, I don't think you can say that South Florida has a hugely potent offense.  Also, the only two times these teams have played, they've yet to go over 43 points.  The scores were 24-19 last year and 28-13 in 2005.  I like it to go UNDER.

Under sounds better to me too.

[_Collin1]

Glad I bought the half point last night and pushed at -4 with ASU.

Guys, I really think WVU is going to make a statement against and underdog darling tonight.  I know USF played them tough last year on the road.  I follow the lines and the against the spread records more than I do winners and losers in D1.  I just have a feeling WVU will win this by AT LEAST a TD. 

Why?  WVU on national TV and thanks to Auburn, USF isnt gonna suprise anybody.

[ErieHog]

Glad I bought the half point last night and pushed at -4 with ASU.

Guys, I really think WVU is going to make a statement against and underdog darling tonight.  I know USF played them tough last year on the road.  I follow the lines and the against the spread records more than I do winners and losers in D1.  I just have a feeling WVU will win this by AT LEAST a TD. 

Why?  WVU on national TV and thanks to Auburn, USF isnt gonna suprise anybody.

USF beat them the year before;   USF isn't a cinderella story-- they are a legitimate Top 20 team.

[_Collin1]

On another subject...  I need your feedback.

I dont bet NFL much, but I saw something this weekend I couldnt pass up.  I placed my largest bet of the year on it.  I teased the Patriots and Colts this weekend.  The Colts I teased from -10 to -3 over the Broncos in Indy.  I think that shouldnt be a problem.

I got the Patriots at -.5 at Cinncinnati.  The Pats will go nuts on Cincy's defense, but the Pats defense should really do a number on Cincy's offense with Rudi Johnson out.  The Pats D can play Dime defense all day and not worry about the run.

So Indy -3 v Broncos and Pats -.5 at Cincy.  Any thoughts?

[_Collin1]

USF beat them the year before;   USF isn't a cinderella story-- they are a legitimate Top 20 team.

But you would agree that they weren't known nationally until Auburn.

[ErieHog]

USF beat them the year before;   USF isn't a cinderella story-- they are a legitimate Top 20 team.

But you would agree that they weren't known nationally until Auburn.

No, I wouldn't.     They were 35th by the AP entering the season-  ahead of teams like Kentucky, Clemson, and Arizona State.

They finished last season 31st in the AP.   

[Hogginitall]

On another subject...  I need your feedback.

I dont bet NFL much, but I saw something this weekend I couldnt pass up.  I placed my largest bet of the year on it.  I teased the Patriots and Colts this weekend.  The Colts I teased from -10 to -3 over the Broncos in Indy.  I think that shouldnt be a problem.

I got the Patriots at -.5 at Cinncinnati.  The Pats will go nuts on Cincy's defense, but the Pats defense should really do a number on Cincy's offense with Rudi Johnson out.  The Pats D can play Dime defense all day and not worry about the run.

So Indy -3 v Broncos and Pats -.5 at Cincy.  Any thoughts?

Thumbs up.

[Hogginitall]

USF beat them the year before;   USF isn't a cinderella story-- they are a legitimate Top 20 team.

But you would agree that they weren't known nationally until Auburn.

They beat Louisville in '05 and WVU in '06.  Anyone who follows college football should know them and that they are a really good team.

[ErieHog]

USF beat them the year before;   USF isn't a cinderella story-- they are a legitimate Top 20 team.

But you would agree that they weren't known nationally until Auburn.

They beat Louisville in '05 and WVU in '06.  Anyone who follows college football should know them and that they are a really good team.

And played Rutgers within 2 last year.

[_Collin1]

Cowherd picked WVU to cover.  WVU is doomed.

[Hogginitall]

Cowherd picked WVU to cover.  WVU is doomed.

What do you think about the total?

[_Collin1]

I hate over unders, but at 57???  I have to go Under.  I dont think WVU can score over 40 and I dont think USF will score over 21.  Even if they did, they barely cover that Over.

[_Collin1]

Hey guys, I post my stuff every week and I am hitting about 70%, which is great for a better.

Last week I cleaned house on Kentucky and Ball St.  Here is what I think this week:

GO WITH THE BIG BOYS TO COVER...

LSU will cover the 40 on Tulane.  I didnt make a big bet cause its an early afternoon game and they can suprise sometimes, but not against LSU's defense.

OU will cover the 22 on Colorado.  OU is going to mow through the Big 12 like a lawn mower.  This is a night game and OU is killer in night games.

USC will cover the 21 on Washington.  If Ohio State can put up that score, USC will thrash them.

WVU covers the 7 on S. Florida.  Its been a nice ride, but dont let the Auburn game fool you.  S. Florida has a good team, but WVU is going to make a statement Friday night on national TV.  I can almost guarantee it.

Take Kansas St and the +14.5 points against Texas.  Why?  KState should have won at Auburn, but really you should take KSU because they have returned all their players from last year and so has Texas.  KState BEAT Texas 45-42 to knock them out of the Big 12 championship last November.  Same players and 14.5 points?  ill take it.

CINN and ARIZ ST. are both at -14 and have covered all year for me.  CINN is a betters dream this year.

Well, I said it a couple of days ago and Cowherd just repeated it.  Its the weekend for the Big Boys to cover.

Cowherd (who is a little over 50%) took Oregon -6, OU to cover the -23, WVU to cover the -7, and USC to cover the -21 against Washington.

[hogfan7583]

Unders is a very logical bet,but i know that in the past they havent' scored more than 43 combined but for some strange reason i'm just feelin the overs, nothin scientific or any evidence to back it up.

[hogfan7583]

I hate over unders, but at 57???  I have to go Under.  I dont think WVU can score over 40 and I dont think USF will score over 21.  Even if they did, they barely cover that Over.

barely is coverin just like the boise game last nite

[Hogginitall]

Hey guys, I post my stuff every week and I am hitting about 70%, which is great for a better.

Last week I cleaned house on Kentucky and Ball St.  Here is what I think this week:

GO WITH THE BIG BOYS TO COVER...

LSU will cover the 40 on Tulane.  I didnt make a big bet cause its an early afternoon game and they can suprise sometimes, but not against LSU's defense.

OU will cover the 22 on Colorado.  OU is going to mow through the Big 12 like a lawn mower.  This is a night game and OU is killer in night games.

USC will cover the 21 on Washington.  If Ohio State can put up that score, USC will thrash them.

WVU covers the 7 on S. Florida.  Its been a nice ride, but dont let the Auburn game fool you.  S. Florida has a good team, but WVU is going to make a statement Friday night on national TV.  I can almost guarantee it.

Take Kansas St and the +14.5 points against Texas.  Why?  KState should have won at Auburn, but really you should take KSU because they have returned all their players from last year and so has Texas.  KState BEAT Texas 45-42 to knock them out of the Big 12 championship last November.  Same players and 14.5 points?  ill take it.

CINN and ARIZ ST. are both at -14 and have covered all year for me.  CINN is a betters dream this year.

Well, I said it a couple of days ago and Cowherd just repeated it.  Its the weekend for the Big Boys to cover.

Cowherd (who is a little over 50%) took Oregon -6, OU to cover the -23, WVU to cover the -7, and USC to cover the -21 against Washington.

So are you changing all your picks now?

[_Collin1]

So are you changing all your picks now?

No, I thought this when I looked at the lines on Monday.  I think the Big Boys whip up this weekend.  Specifically LSU, OU, and USC.

[anthonytkr]

On another subject...  I need your feedback.

I dont bet NFL much, but I saw something this weekend I couldnt pass up.  I placed my largest bet of the year on it.  I teased the Patriots and Colts this weekend.  The Colts I teased from -10 to -3 over the Broncos in Indy.  I think that shouldnt be a problem.

I got the Patriots at -.5 at Cinncinnati.  The Pats will go nuts on Cincy's defense, but the Pats defense should really do a number on Cincy's offense with Rudi Johnson out.  The Pats D can play Dime defense all day and not worry about the run.

So Indy -3 v Broncos and Pats -.5 at Cincy.  Any thoughts?

Glad I bought the half point last night and pushed at -4 with ASU.

Guys, I really think WVU is going to make a statement against and underdog darling tonight.  I know USF played them tough last year on the road.  I follow the lines and the against the spread records more than I do winners and losers in D1.  I just have a feeling WVU will win this by AT LEAST a TD. 

Why?  WVU on national TV and thanks to Auburn, USF isnt gonna suprise anybody.

Dont tease Colts and Pats! Take the Colts straight up and Cowboys too.  If you just have to tease someone, tease the Colts with NT + 42.  As a rule of thumb whenever all the talk is on one team ie. SF, usually spells trap to me. Believe you me, i love SF and they are a great team, but dont lose sight of how WV has been running over people, i thought Oklahome wasnt for real either and went against them vs Tulsa and they rolled. SF didnt upset Auburn, AU just sucks.

[Bomis Hawg]

How's everyone doing?

The Central Michigan Chippewas are owning for me.  I've got Penn State (trailing) and Navy also going.

[ErieHog]

How's everyone doing?

The Central Michigan Chippewas are owning for me.  I've got Penn State (trailing) and Navy also going.

So far, undefeated;  I'd be happier if Duke put a couple of points on the board, but I'll live.

That said, I am as pleased by bets that I avoided making (like PSU and LSU) as I am by those I made.

[WILL CLINTON]

Where are you WILL CLINTON?  I want to hear your picks for this weekend.

Sorry, I posted my picks in this thread:

http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php?topic=159906.0

Here's the recap. 

I'm 19-13 on posted picks this year for 59%, and I went 3-2 last week winning Ball ST (still 100% on games bet involving Ball St.), Georgia, and Toledo.  I lost on Tulsa and BYU. 

This week I like:

Miss St.  2*  over 41  3*

Mississippi State: 6-0 ATS in road games
South Carolina: 12-4 Over as a home favorite

Temple +6½ 2*

Temple: 12-3 ATS away off BB ATS wins
Army: 2-10 ATS off an Over

Ball St -14 5*

Buffalo: 12-5 Over vs. conference opponents
Ball State: 11-1 ATS off an Over

Central Mich -3  3*

Northern Illinois: 0-6 ATS off a road game
Central Michigan: 9-1 ATS vs. conference opponents

UCLA +2   5* lock of the week

UCLA: 7-1 ATS after winning 2 of their last 3 games
Oregon State: 1-6 ATS in September

Nevada -3½  3*

UNLV: 7-18 ATS playing on artificial turf
Nevada: 8-0 ATS as a favorite

Louisville -9  4*

Louisville: 11-2 ATS vs. ACC opponents
NC State: 1-7 ATS in September

[CENSORED] Spurrier running up the score.  All he had to do was take a knee or kick a FG.  Anyway, I'm now 3-2 on the day, with UCLA, Nevada, and Louisville still to finish. 


BTW, still 100% on picks involving Ball St. 

I just wish I could find a bookie in Hot Springs. This is ridiculous. 

[WILL CLINTON]

I also hit Nevada -3.5, and Louisville -9.  Not looking good on my UCLA lock. 

So far, 5-2 for 71% today. 

[ErieHog]

5-0 so far;  looks like I'll miss on my UNT cover, maybe on Washington or EMU, but  this weekend has been a winner all around.   

I'm glad that I took my own advice after last week's Louisville fiasco, and took Maryland and the points.   The little woman is gonna get something nice out of this weekend

[ErieHog]

8-2 on the week.  EMU missed covering for me by 2 points, and I should have known better than expect the Hogs not to cover :/

I'll gladly take those 2 losses, though.

14-5-1 on the year.

[WILL CLINTON]

I also hit Nevada -3.5, and Louisville -9.  Not looking good on my UCLA lock. 

So far, 5-2 for 71% today. 

Looks like UCLA came through in a BIG way for me.  So I finished the week at 6-2, for 75%.  That puts me at 25-15 for 63% for the year on posted picks. 

Wasting these good picks with no bookie. 

[Bomis Hawg]

I now have another reason to hate SMU.
SMU led by 14 in the fourth quarter.  UTEP scored one TD.  Then, tied the game up with 7 seconds left.
Talk about a game that hurt.  SMU got a field goal while UTEP got the game-winning TD.

Talk about upset.

[Michael11]

I am something Like 28-20 for the year for a 72% winning percentage. And here is what I know, do not bet the SEC. Cause any team can beat any team!

[anthonytkr]

I'm riding Cinn also, they have won for me each week. They have won by 26 each game and SDSU has lost by an average of 24.

Penn St -3 in happy valley is a gift.

Ark St -4

GT +3

NT +36

I like WV running away against SF, the reason? Because i really like South Florida as a team and want them to win, therefore, they wont.

I suck at picking college! Had Cinn, GT, and missed the rest , went like 4-10, thank goodness for the Cowboys and Colts to pull me out again.

[Conway Cool Daddy]

Man, I got nothing.

ASU -4 Memphis ought to be interesting.

Also Maryland +17 Rutgers is worth looking at. Maryland is a lot better than they get credit for.


Nothing else looks very promising.

Well, Maryland came through for me.
This was one weird weekend.

[Michael11]

I went 6-4 but my two locks of the weekend, Clemson and Penn State were losses! Funny weekend!

I will say this though bet New England big tonight. They will dominate!

[leavenworth1]

Parity, parity, parity.  Bet the underdogs these days, i've done very well doing so the last couple years, especially this past weekend.