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why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« on: February 07, 2018, 10:09:33 am »

I saw almost every schools have about 25 scholarships in every year.
why don't we have this year?

15 is 10 less than 25, did I miss anything?
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2018, 10:11:19 am »

I saw almost every schools have about 25 scholarships in every year.
why don't we have this year?

15 is 10 less than 25, did I miss anything?
Because we have 75 players on campus on scholarship
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2018, 10:12:55 am »

Because Bert NEVER cut chaff like every other school does....
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2018, 10:13:22 am »

We do have 25 scholarships just like every other school
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2018, 10:14:21 am »

I recalled Tenn and ole miss always has more than 25 scholarships.
do they always have more students graduated or many were kicked off or left?
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2018, 10:15:07 am »

We do have 25 scholarships just like every other school
Thanks, so will we sign the all 25 scholarship?
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2018, 10:16:09 am »

Because Bert NEVER cut chaff like every other school does....
you mean kick some students out of the program?
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2018, 10:16:37 am »

Thanks, so will we sign the all 25 scholarship?

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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2018, 10:17:29 am »

no
are we planning to leave some for next year class?
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2018, 10:19:15 am »

are we planning to leave some for next year class?

Are you trolling? Thread after thread in this forum speaks to this very thing. Even if you have only a little bit of time on your hands, the information is easily accessible via the search functionality.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2018, 10:19:28 am »

are we planning to leave some for next year class?
Thats not how it works. We cant sign all 25 because we will go over our 85 total scholarships.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2018, 10:20:23 am »

you mean kick some students out of the program?
you do realise they get to go to school still, right? And, yes, thats exactly what every other school does. Surely you dont think it's possible for ALL of the kids to be excelling in the program and actually worthy of a scholarship, right? What kind of socialist ass darn is this; you want us to keep the chaff for charity lmao.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2018, 10:21:17 am »

Are you trolling? Thread after thread in this forum speaks to this very thing. Even if you have only a little bit of time on your hands, the information is easily accessible via the search functionality.

Agreed. Mind bogglingly dense if serious.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2018, 10:23:35 am »

Serious question.. since we want sign a full class this year we could potentially sign a large class next year and count some back if the room opens correct?
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2018, 10:29:43 am »

I recalled Tenn and ole miss always has more than 25 scholarships.
do they always have more students graduated or many were kicked off or left?
Well one has to consider that in the case of the two above mentioned programs police blotters normally take care of the numbers. ;) 8)
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2018, 10:30:48 am »

you do realise they get to go to school still, right? And, yes, thats exactly what every other school does. Surely you dont think it's possible for ALL of the kids to be excelling in the program and actually worthy of a scholarship, right? What kind of socialist ass darn is this; you want us to keep the chaff for charity lmao.
so why don't Coach Morris kick off some not that qualified player? does he need more time to evaluate them?
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2018, 10:33:01 am »

Serious question.. since we want sign a full class this year we could potentially sign a large class next year and count some back if the room opens correct?
If they enroll in January 2019 then they can count back to this class. So yeah, if they wanted to could sign over the "25",course depends on where you are at on the 85 number everyone seems to be overlooking for this class.   Just cause you can sign 25 doesn't mean you have room under the 85. 
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2018, 10:40:01 am »

so why don't Coach Morris kick off some not that qualified player? does he need more time to evaluate them?
he will. You dont think he would decide for himself after having a practice or a game first? Jesus friggin Christ, dude. Yes, I guarrandamntee you he will do like every other school and cut chaff. THANK GOD Mr Integrity is gone.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2018, 10:41:52 am »

he will. You dont think he would decide for himself after having a practice or a game first? Jesus friggin Christ, dude. Yes, I guarrandamntee you he will do like every other school and cut chaff. THANK GOD Mr Integrity is gone.
OK, thanks, what I want is to see Hogs win win and win!
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2018, 10:42:58 am »

OK, thanks, what I want is to see Hogs win win and win!
THATS the spirit!
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2018, 10:43:17 am »

If they enroll in January 2019 then they can count back to this class. So yeah, if they wanted to could sign over the "25",course depends on where you are at on the 85 number everyone seems to be overlooking for this class.   Just cause you can sign 25 doesn't mean you have room under the 85. 
so the three enrolled in this year will count back to 2017 class, then we don't even have 15 yet.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2018, 10:43:54 am »

THATS the spirit!
yes, +1 to you, sir! go hogs!
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2018, 10:46:49 am »

so the three enrolled in this year will count back to 2017 class, then we don't even have 15 yet.

Did we have any spots available in the 2017 class?  I think we had a full 25 that year, so no, they wouldn't count back.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2018, 10:47:39 am »

so the three enrolled in this year will count back to 2017 class, then we don't even have 15 yet.

You cannot exceed 85 scholarship players. If you are being serious good grief, dude. Read.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2018, 10:48:18 am »

Did we have any spots available in the 2017 class?  I think we had a full 25 that year, so no, they wouldn't count back.
thanks for the clarification. +1
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2018, 10:49:39 am »

You cannot exceed 85 scholarship players. If you are being serious good grief, dude. Read.
yeah, I am desperately want to have a best class, so we can beat everybody in 2018, go hogs
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2018, 10:52:27 am »

so the three enrolled in this year will count back to 2017 class, then we don't even have 15 yet.
I don't remember how many we signed in 2017 and if those 3 can count back. It gets kinda sketchy if you don't keep up with what happen last year and year before.
Lets say they can count back and we sign 18, then technically we only signed 15 for 2018 class and if you sign 10 that can enroll in Jan 2019 then you could possible sign 35.     But you got to have room under the 85.

I could be wrong but that's they we way I understand it and typing fast and multitasking creates bad grammar

« Last Edit: February 07, 2018, 11:12:22 am by SDZ_Hog »
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2018, 10:53:37 am »

I don't remember how many we signed in 2017 and if those 3 can count back. It gets kinda sketchy if you don't keep up with what happen last year and year before.
Lets say they can count back and we sign 18, then technically we only signed 15 for 2018 class and if you sign 10 that can enroll in Jan 2019 then you could possible sign 35.     But you got to have room under the 85.

I could be wrong but that's they we I understand it

Thanks, sir, +1
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2018, 11:07:13 am »

Any left over schollys are usually given to walk-ons in the summer.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2018, 11:35:08 am »

I saw almost every schools have about 25 scholarships in every year.
why don't we have this year?

15 is 10 less than 25, did I miss anything?
This is the issue with redshirting especially with guys that aren't going to contribute for 3 years. 85 is the NCAA cap. The SEC has a 25/year cap thanks in large part to Nutt's first class at OM. Morris is somewhat handcuffed by the scholarships already on campus AND the early signing period.

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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2018, 11:42:18 am »

CBB spend a lot of effort in recruiting on character.  We also now have the Jerry and June Jones academic center.  Combine multiple issues, and we simply do not have the turnover. 

Contrary to everything written on this board, CBB did not do everything wrong.  Hopefully, CCM carries on what CBB did well, and improves what CBB did poorly. 
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2018, 12:32:13 pm »

CBB spend a lot of effort in recruiting on character.  We also now have the Jerry and June Jones academic center.  Combine multiple issues, and we simply do not have the turnover. 

Contrary to everything written on this board, CBB did not do everything wrong.  Hopefully, CCM carries on what CBB did well, and improves what CBB did poorly.
Not sure that EVERYTHING written on this board claims that CBB did everything wrong. However, what he did poorly-lack or player development, poor/inadequate/nonexistant in-game adjustments, lack of effective player usage, etc.-are what sunk his coaching career on the Hill. And those factors can't be realistically disputed.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2018, 12:54:17 pm »

We have 75 and signed 15 so will Morris have to cut bait????
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2018, 12:56:32 pm »

Not sure that EVERYTHING written on this board claims that CBB did everything wrong. However, what he did poorly-lack or player development, poor/inadequate/nonexistant in-game adjustments, lack of effective player usage, etc.-are what sunk his coaching career on the Hill. And those factors can't be realistically disputed.
Agreed.  I think the underlying issues were several weak spots in his staff: Anderson, Segrest, etc.  He did not make good decisions hiring asst coaches.   The result of poor hires led into those factors you listed.   
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2018, 01:18:58 pm »

We have 75 and signed 15 so will Morris have to cut bait????
good question.+1
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2018, 01:50:12 pm »



15 is 10 less than 25, did I miss anything?

No. It looks like simple math. I donít think you missed anything? Letís reverse engineer it. 25-10=15. Is that correct? If there is a Mathematician on the board maybe he could help us out.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2018, 01:55:52 pm »

No. It looks like simple math. I donít think you missed anything? Letís reverse engineer it. 25-10=15. Is that correct? If there is a Mathematician on the board maybe he could help us out.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2018, 02:02:09 pm »

No. It looks like simple math. I donít think you missed anything? Letís reverse engineer it. 25-10=15. Is that correct? If there is a Mathematician on the board maybe he could help us out.
Thanks, you are such a humor person.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2018, 02:05:09 pm »

Not sure that EVERYTHING written on this board claims that CBB did everything wrong. However, what he did poorly-lack or player development, poor/inadequate/nonexistant in-game adjustments, lack of effective player usage, etc.-are what sunk his coaching career on the Hill. And those factors can't be realistically disputed.

Pretty spot on. Player usage and lack of game-time adjustments were so frustrating. I actually believe he developed players for what he intended...smashmouth football. But...then he realized it doesnít work that way unless youíve got the biggest horses. But never utilizing certain players was just mind boggling.

This is all what makes me so excited about CCM. He is no ones buddy and wants to win. Best players play. Great football mind who should be able to mold the scheme throughout a game. Should be fun to watch.
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2018, 02:06:25 pm »

Thanks, you are such a humor person.

Yes. Quite the humor person.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2018, 02:08:27 pm »

Have any of you keyboard commandos given a thought to the age of solitons? Maybe he is just a kid and honestly doesn't know. Lot's of moving parts involved in a signing class.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2018, 02:19:01 pm »

Have any of you keyboard commandos given a thought to the age of solitons? Maybe he is just a kid and honestly doesn't know. Lot's of moving parts involved in a signing class.
oops, +1
I graduated from U of A more than 10 years ago, but I don't know much about this recruiting stuff just like a kid, since I was from another country.

but, I love hogs
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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2018, 02:20:57 pm »

Have any of you keyboard commandos given a thought to the age of solitons? Maybe he is just a kid and honestly doesn't know. Lot's of moving parts involved in a signing class.

Keyboard commandos? Ha ha...I dub thee a humor person also.

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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2018, 02:28:22 pm »

Keyboard commandos? Ha ha...I dub thee a humor person also.

Dilly dilly
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2018, 04:28:26 pm »

Pretty spot on. Player usage and lack of game-time adjustments were so frustrating. I actually believe he developed players for what he intended...smashmouth football. But...then he realized it doesn’t work that way unless you’ve got the biggest horses. But never utilizing certain players was just mind boggling.

This is all what makes me so excited about CCM. He is no ones buddy and wants to win. Best players play. Great football mind who should be able to mold the scheme throughout a game. Should be fun to watch.

The bottom line is Bielema didn't win enough games as head coach and apathy was setting in.
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« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2018, 04:51:11 pm »

The bottom line is Bielema didn't win enough games as head coach and apathy was setting in.

Thatís the headline of why he is not our coach anymore. He didnít win more games because he couldnít adjust during games. Just think of how many games we wouldíve won had we not had 4th quarter collapses. Iíll tell you this. Heíd be a top coach in the SEC if he couldíve figured that out. He was very good at coming out of the gates and guns blazing and building a lead. But the inability to switch strategies on the fly was what caused the losses...which led to his downfall.
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2018, 05:18:48 pm »

OK, thanks, what I want is to see Hogs win win and win!

You forgot, and WIN...
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2018, 06:46:10 pm »

Pretty spot on. Player usage and lack of game-time adjustments were so frustrating. I actually believe he developed players for what he intended...smashmouth football. But...then he realized it doesnít work that way unless youíve got the biggest horses. But never utilizing certain players was just mind boggling.

This is all what makes me so excited about CCM. He is no ones buddy and wants to win. Best players play. Great football mind who should be able to mold the scheme throughout a game. Should be fun to watch.

God people!  Bret Beliema IS GONE!!!!!!!  Get over it, already!!!!  The point being made is that, despite your bias against him, he did a fantastic job of retaining players and NOT have a lot of attrition.  To be successful at Arkansas, you have to retain your players.  Kudos to coach for keeping players on campus and not recruiting losers who are getting arrested and failing classes.  Now, hopefully, these players will develop into the kinds of players Chad Morris needs to be successful on the field. 
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2018, 08:32:39 pm »

God people!  Bret Beliema IS GONE!!!!!!!  Get over it, already!!!!  The point being made is that, despite your bias against him, he did a fantastic job of retaining players and NOT have a lot of attrition.  To be successful at Arkansas, you have to retain your players.  Kudos to coach for keeping players on campus and not recruiting losers who are getting arrested and failing classes.  Now, hopefully, these players will develop into the kinds of players Chad Morris needs to be successful on the field.

Thatís it you people! No more! Heís not our current coach. Hogget has SPOKEN! I better not hear any more about these old coaches who arenít current either. If I hear a word about Petrino, Nutt, Broyles, Ford, Holtz, etc and etc. What if itís a compare and contrast? No! What if what these coaches still have a lasting effect on us today? No!!! Since this is a free forum where people can just talk...NO! But what if...NOOO!!!
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Re: why don't we have 25 scholarships?
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2018, 08:48:20 pm »

Kudos to coach for keeping players on campus and not recruiting losers who are getting arrested and failing classes.

Or getting drafted.

He did a great job of retaining players, so great that in his 5th year he went 4-8 and got himself fired.
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