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Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« on: February 08, 2018, 07:35:07 pm »

Give us some info SPEED ?
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 08:43:39 pm »

I have. He has enough speed. He has a nose for the football and will knock you out. Love this kid.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 08:55:04 pm »

https://www.hudl.com/profile/2722618/Cameron-Vail


He loves to hit, no doubt about that.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2018, 08:59:53 pm »

One things for sure.. he’s not scared of contact
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 09:14:42 pm »

Man that kid has a nose for being around the ball.  Seems to have great instincts.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2018, 09:35:39 pm »

Coach Patton’s step son.  Smart guy.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2018, 09:49:53 pm »

He played on the 16 and under US national team. Yes there is such a thing. He started for them.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 12:22:48 am »

Is he a late offer or preferred walk on
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2018, 12:24:57 am »

So what's the deal..? Walk On? Additional commit?
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2018, 01:02:25 am »

Preferred walk on at this point. I know Cam, I bet he gets a scholarship soon.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2018, 08:41:40 am »

https://www.hudl.com/profile/2722618/Cameron-Vail


He loves to hit, no doubt about that.

He does love contact, but I'm pretty sure that is an ejection in college at 1:15
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2018, 08:53:11 am »

 Damn..! Is he going to be Cam the impaler, or Vail the nail?
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2018, 09:01:54 am »

What would be his college position?
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2018, 10:42:40 am »

What would be his college position?

6’1”, 185 pounds, 4.5 speed (per hudl)...safety?
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2018, 12:18:45 pm »

6’1”, 185 pounds, 4.5 speed (per hudl)...safety?

Could turn out to be a tall Tony Bua. Sure tackler with an attitude.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2018, 12:39:24 pm »

 I guess sometimes it just comes together just right. You have a kid that is worthy of a scholarship, but has the grades and test scores to get an academic full ride. I am probably as excited about this guy as any of them. Even if he does nothing but coverage on special teams I bet the SEC winds up knowing his name real soon. The other guy who gets me worked up is Mike Woods. He can block better than he can catch, and he's a stud at catching the ball.! Just a freak at the position, and that makes us better right now. He's gonna contribute heavily next year.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2018, 01:32:57 pm »

Unfortunately, I've gotten to watch him play one game a year for the last three years.  I personally think he is a steal as a walk on.  It's good to finally get to cheer for him instead of against him.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2018, 01:35:38 pm »

My dad coached him in peewee football. One of his favorite kids ever. That’s where he first played safety. (In the 6th grade) their team went undefeated and he was a major reason why.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2018, 01:47:32 pm »

What is  exciting about him, is that when he hits you, the ball goes flying.  Creating turnovers on defense is a key component in todays game.  Virtually impossible to stop a good offense now with the rules that are in place.  He  also showed good instincts in moving off his man to another and getting an interception.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2018, 06:26:43 pm »

Doesn't seem to have SEC speed at the safety position. Listed as a 4.5 forty but that doesn't show on the tape. If he can put on about 40 pound without losing too much speed, he could be a solid LB for us. Maybe 30 pounds and play a LB/S hybrid role. Could also be very good on special teams though again, with that speed would be susceptible to getting burned by some of the better returners in the SEC.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2018, 06:50:13 pm »

Doesn't seem to have SEC speed at the safety position. Listed as a 4.5 forty but that doesn't show on the tape. If he can put on about 40 pound without losing too much speed, he could be a solid LB for us. Maybe 30 pounds and play a LB/S hybrid role. Could also be very good on special teams though again, with that speed would be susceptible to getting burned by some of the better returners in the SEC.

I think your right, but he does have a linebacker mentality by how he hits.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2018, 07:00:53 pm »

Doesn't seem to have SEC speed at the safety position. Listed as a 4.5 forty but that doesn't show on the tape. If he can put on about 40 pound without losing too much speed, he could be a solid LB for us. Maybe 30 pounds and play a LB/S hybrid role. Could also be very good on special teams though again, with that speed would be susceptible to getting burned by some of the better returners in the SEC.

And the returners would be susceptible to getting hammered with his mentality.  You also have 10 other players on special teams that would be assisting him, so it isn't like  he  would be  one on one with the  returner.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2018, 07:46:03 pm »

I guess sometimes it just comes together just right. You have a kid that is worthy of a scholarship, but has the grades and test scores to get an academic full ride. I am probably as excited about this guy as any of them. Even if he does nothing but coverage on special teams I bet the SEC winds up knowing his name real soon. The other guy who gets me worked up is Mike Woods. He can block better than he can catch, and he's a stud at catching the ball.! Just a freak at the position, and that makes us better right now. He's gonna contribute heavily next year.
Mike woods is my guy. he's cool af on twitter. I LOVE his film, too. He Literally DESTROYS people who try to jam him unlike anything I've ever seen a WR do.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2018, 07:52:03 pm »

Damn..! Is he going to be Cam the impaler, or Vail the nail?
both are acceptable
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2018, 11:45:05 pm »

Doesn't seem to have SEC speed at the safety position. Listed as a 4.5 forty but that doesn't show on the tape. If he can put on about 40 pound without losing too much speed, he could be a solid LB for us. Maybe 30 pounds and play a LB/S hybrid role. Could also be very good on special teams though again, with that speed would be susceptible to getting burned by some of the better returners in the SEC.
You really were stretching for something to be negative about. The kid is so fast and smart that he doesn't have to move full speed until he actually HAS to do so. Go back and watch that film again...
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2018, 11:46:19 pm »

both are acceptable
You my boy Pokey... I don't care that you had the stank on you. That DG thang broke the curse.!!
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2018, 12:08:47 am »

And the returners would be susceptible to getting hammered with his mentality.  You also have 10 other players on special teams that would be assisting him, so it isn't like  he  would be  one on one with the  returner.

And the team who scores the most point wins. Great insight Mr. Madden. ;)

But seriously, I wasn't trying to say that it would be all on him type of thing though re-reading my post, I did a terrible job of conveying that. In my head, I was thinking more about how the teams with really high caliber athlete backups tend to do very well on special teams return coverage and how teams that otherwise have good starters but poor depth in terms of athletic quality tend to be susceptible to giving up bigger returns. For that matter, several teams in the NFL will even have some of their all pro defenders regularly play on special teams and they typically have some of the best return coverage units.

Sure, there's probably a couple returns over the course of the season where the length of the return could be traced back to a specific individual and I did word my earlier post as if it would be all on him. Which was incorrect. I was trying and failed to imply that I think he could be a real message sender on special teams but we need to take car to have good speed overall on special teams if we want to rock solid at return coverage. I.e. don't oversell wanting a big hit on special teams and give up speed and sure tackling in the process.
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2018, 09:21:58 am »

You my boy Pokey... I don't care that you had the stank on you. That DG thang broke the curse.!!
man, have you seen his film? DG is a freaking ANIMAL
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Re: Cameron Vail... Who's seen him ?
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2018, 11:28:10 am »

man, have you seen his film? DG is a freaking ANIMAL
i agree , he is a BEAST , DL is going to be strong this year
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