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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #100 on: February 01, 2018, 10:40:47 am »

It's not working - fact.

That’s because the “work” has been taken out of the equation by liberals.  You can’t, not, lock a criminal up but what we do or don’t do after that is what’s not working. 
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #101 on: February 01, 2018, 10:41:31 am »

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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #102 on: February 01, 2018, 10:46:19 am »

That’s because the “work” has been taken out of the equation by liberals.  You can’t, not, lock a criminal up but what we do or don’t do after that is what’s not working.

Is Alex Jones a Razorback fan? This his account?
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #103 on: February 01, 2018, 10:48:53 am »

I’ve never had a drink of alcohol in my life so I don’t have a problem with that.

Explains why you're so wacky.

Settle down and enjoy a cold one.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #104 on: February 01, 2018, 10:51:33 am »

It's not working - fact.

Recognition of a failing system does not improve it.  It's easy enough to see that  a system is not working.

Simply enough to say "The answer lies in rehabilitation systems."  What does that mean? The rehabilitation facilities that are out there don't appear to be working much better than the prison systems.

Easy to say "It's not working."  So, what will work?  I don't have any solutions.  Can you offer an effective alternative.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #105 on: February 01, 2018, 10:51:39 am »

Hey guys if we want to debate drug policy or what not let's move it over to politics and stop Clarke's name from going to the top of this forum.  There really isn't anything meaningful to add about his situation. 
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #106 on: February 01, 2018, 10:52:01 am »

That’s because the “work” has been taken out of the equation by liberals.  You can’t, not, lock a criminal up but what we do or don’t do after that is what’s not working.

The prison system is too much of a "Punishment/Revenge" system and not enough of a rehabilitation program to prepare prisoners for re-entry to society. That's why almost all go back to prison at some point after being released
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #107 on: February 01, 2018, 10:53:09 am »

Cinco, your signature line confuses me.

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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #108 on: February 01, 2018, 11:05:15 am »

Recognition of a failing system does not improve it.  It's easy enough to see that  a system is not working.

Simply enough to say "The answer lies in rehabilitation systems."  What does that mean? The rehabilitation facilities that are out there don't appear to be working much better than the prison systems.

Easy to say "It's not working."  So, what will work?  I don't have any solutions.  Can you offer an effective alternative.

As humans, we have addictive tendencies, all the rehab and jail in the world won't change human nature. Fundamentally, we like to 'get high' in one way or another (caffeine, nicotine, weed, cocaine, meth, etc..) I guess it's about making responsible addiction choices - sounds crazy, but it's true. But there IS another element to it....

I think we would have more luck dealing with hard core addicts if the focus was on WHY they became addicts - dive into that tough stuff that happened early on that put them on this path. Without addressing the root issues, we will never be able to cut through the addiction - the addiction it is like a warm blanket, a safe spot. Addiction is what an person will use to make himself feel 'comfortable' - and avoid addressing the very difficult issues of their past.

We need to address the root issues through psychotherapy, then proceed from there. I believe if we will look our past square in the fu----- face and try to get help with these issues that the addiction issues will take care of themselves. Hardcore addiction is a RESULT of other issues that need to be unwrapped and dealt with. Like and onion - peel away the layers~
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #109 on: February 01, 2018, 11:14:56 am »

Maybe they wouldn’t be overflowing if they weren’t country clubs for the criminally intent.  Other than that, yes it’s a deep subject you could write a book or several hundred about.
The type you refer to (repeat offenders) aren’t afraid of going back to prison...in fact I believe in many cases they look forward to and plan on going back.

That’s a big problem...which tells me, for some...prison is a way to be shielded from the responsibilities of the outside world. And that our prisons are very soft for the culture of repeat offenders.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #110 on: February 04, 2018, 09:24:16 am »

As humans, we have addictive tendencies, all the rehab and jail in the world won't change human nature. Fundamentally, we like to 'get high' in one way or another (caffeine, nicotine, weed, cocaine, meth, etc..) I guess it's about making responsible addiction choices - sounds crazy, but it's true. But there IS another element to it....

I think we would have more luck dealing with hard core addicts if the focus was on WHY they became addicts - dive into that tough stuff that happened early on that put them on this path. Without addressing the root issues, we will never be able to cut through the addiction - the addiction it is like a warm blanket, a safe spot. Addiction is what an person will use to make himself feel 'comfortable' - and avoid addressing the very difficult issues of their past.

We need to address the root issues through psychotherapy, then proceed from there. I believe if we will look our past square in the fu----- face and try to get help with these issues that the addiction issues will take care of themselves. Hardcore addiction is a RESULT of other issues that need to be unwrapped and dealt with. Like and onion - peel away the layers~
I agree with this. I also believe in most cases, these destructive habits need to have a spiritual element added to it, so that we trust a higher power than ourselves.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #111 on: February 04, 2018, 09:53:00 am »


As humans, we have addictive tendencies, all the rehab and jail in the world won't change human nature. Fundamentally, we like to 'get high' in one way or another (caffeine, nicotine, weed, cocaine, meth, etc..) I guess it's about making responsible addiction choices - sounds crazy, but it's true. But there IS another element to it....



Now this I understand.  Quit smoking thirty-four years ago.  Coffee (caffeine) has been my addiction every since ---- trading one addiction for a less harmful one.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #112 on: February 04, 2018, 11:50:18 am »

As humans, we have addictive tendencies, all the rehab and jail in the world won't change human nature. Fundamentally, we like to 'get high' in one way or another (caffeine, nicotine, weed, cocaine, meth, etc..) I guess it's about making responsible addiction choices - sounds crazy, but it's true. But there IS another element to it....

I think we would have more luck dealing with hard core addicts if the focus was on WHY they became addicts - dive into that tough stuff that happened early on that put them on this path. Without addressing the root issues, we will never be able to cut through the addiction - the addiction it is like a warm blanket, a safe spot. Addiction is what an person will use to make himself feel 'comfortable' - and avoid addressing the very difficult issues of their past.

We need to address the root issues through psychotherapy, then proceed from there. I believe if we will look our past square in the fu----- face and try to get help with these issues that the addiction issues will take care of themselves. Hardcore addiction is a RESULT of other issues that need to be unwrapped and dealt with. Like and onion - peel away the layers~

I vote we just "off" them.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #113 on: February 04, 2018, 12:46:13 pm »

I vote we just "off" them.

I respect your opinion
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #114 on: February 04, 2018, 01:10:43 pm »

I vote we just "off" them.

Then you'll lose some of the best and brightest people that have contributed to our society. Just because they are down now doesn't mean they won't get clean and have an amazing impact on those around them.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #115 on: February 04, 2018, 02:15:49 pm »

Now this I understand.  Quit smoking thirty-four years ago.  Coffee (caffeine) has been my addiction every since ---- trading one addiction for a less harmful one.
same. down to caffeine and my medical green.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #116 on: February 04, 2018, 04:42:31 pm »

Is Alex Jones a Razorback fan? This his account?
Are you a snowflake liberal?
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #117 on: February 04, 2018, 04:44:04 pm »

Hey guys if we want to debate drug policy or what not let's move it over to politics and stop Clarke's name from going to the top of this forum.  There really isn't anything meaningful to add about his situation.
This should be taken down
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #118 on: February 05, 2018, 09:36:55 am »

Are you a snowflake liberal?

Are you ok?
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #119 on: February 05, 2018, 10:56:11 am »

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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #120 on: February 05, 2018, 10:59:04 am »

While I love Alex Jones I am more a Dan Bongino or Ben Shapiro man myself. Sean Hannity is another of my favorites.

I'll probably get another warning from Hogville but I really don't care.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #121 on: February 05, 2018, 11:00:57 am »

While I love Alex Jones I am more a Dan Bongino or Ben Shapiro man myself. Sean Hannity is another of my favorites.

I'll probably get another warning from Hogville but I really don't care.

No one cares.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #122 on: February 06, 2018, 01:42:19 pm »

Cinco, your signature line confuses me.

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Fifth of "Hogo?"  That's some very loose translation.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #123 on: February 07, 2018, 03:20:44 pm »

I don't want to go on too big of a rant here but this will continue until we start treating drug abusers with rehabilitation instead of punishment. I'm all for going after drug traffickers or the organizations that run them, they are usually violent and filled with bad men. But what we're doing and have been doing for decades is not working. More people die of just OPIOD overdoses in the United States every year than the entire VIETNAM WAR. Let that sink in and ask yourself if punishing addicts is fixing this problem.

I agree with you.  We need to stop throwing users in jail and making them criminals.  We need to be sending them to treatment facilities to treat the cause of their addictions.
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Re: Clarke Moore arrest
« Reply #124 on: February 08, 2018, 08:46:15 am »

Darwinism at work. Generally, a good thing.
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