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Attention to Detail
« on: January 22, 2018, 01:50:34 pm »

Thoughts?   I personally like it, but I understand not everyone has a military background so it may not be for everyone.


https://twitter.com/OhMyGrady85/status/955481293394980864
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2018, 01:56:01 pm »

I've seen it work in multiple athletic programs.  I'm all for it.  Do the small things right, every day, and the big things will follow.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2018, 02:00:32 pm »

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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2018, 02:03:26 pm »

Sit up, put your feet on the floor, put your drinks down. Now don't leave towels in your locker. I think theses coaches are no nonsense types. Discipline and attention to detail on the field starts with instilling discipline and attention to detail off the field. I have no problem with that.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2018, 02:07:42 pm »

Little things are like special teams. Rarely do they win you games, but they can darn sure beat you.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 02:09:06 pm »

Good discipline develops respect on and off the field. Happy to see we now have a staff that has backbone.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 02:09:12 pm »

Had a coach say if you can't do the small things correct and consistently every time everyday no matter how minor you think they might be, I guarantee you will be overwhelmed and fail at the major things you face in real time. 
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 02:09:41 pm »

Thoughts?   I personally like it, but I understand not everyone has a military background so it may not be for everyone.


https://twitter.com/OhMyGrady85/status/955481293394980864

I like it. He won't do that again. Standards need to be set and enforced. When you turn your head if you see somebody slacking then you've just set the new standard a little lower. Good stuff.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 02:11:10 pm »

We've seen these things from Petrino and Bielema.  Each stafff had their little things. 
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 02:12:17 pm »

Details in every area, very important. 
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 02:13:19 pm »

Good discipline develops respect on and off the field. Happy to see we now have a staff that has backbone.

Past coaching staff was no different in this regard.

Actions like this are good to see from a coaching staff, but if this is all it takes for you to be happy, then you should have been happy with the old staff as well.

As somebody else said, stuff like this won't win you games, but a lack of it will lose you games (see Smiley).
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 02:14:27 pm »

We've seen these things from Petrino and Bielema.  Each stafff had their little things. 

I bet this coaching staff is required to wear shoes...........................
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 02:30:03 pm »

We've seen these things from Petrino and Bielema.  Each stafff had their little things. 

Coach B did not stress attention to detail.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 02:35:47 pm »

I bet this coaching staff is required to wear shoes...........................

Let's hope this team is required to get to class and make the grades like the last coaching staff...

BP was a very strict disciplinarian and the results was outstanding...to bad he didn't have self-discipline. 
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 02:42:13 pm »

Past coaching staff was no different in this regard.

Actions like this are good to see from a coaching staff, but if this is all it takes for you to be happy, then you should have been happy with the old staff as well.

As somebody else said, stuff like this won't win you games, but a lack of it will lose you games (see Smiley).
Exactly, we had the best Special Teams in existence.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2018, 02:46:42 pm »

Let's hope this team is required to get to class and make the grades like the last coaching staff...

BP was a very strict disciplinarian and the results was outstanding...to bad he didn't have self-discipline. 

CJ wonít leave his towel out again.  Sorry,  Iíve know him since JR High and canít call him Cheyenne.

I was lucky enough to see my sonís Winter Training Program 2018  packet last weekend. 

The academic side is not only addressed, itís more rigorous than the previous staff. 

There is a defined weight room dress code.  No hats, earrings, headbands, cutoffs, or exceptions. 

Coach Morris was also surprised that many didnít show up to the meeting last Tuesday with paper and a pen.  Itís a new world in the Smith Center. 


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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2018, 02:52:40 pm »

CJ wonít leave his towel out again.  Sorry,  Iíve know him since JR High and canít call him Cheyenne.

I was lucky enough to see my sonís Winter Training Program 2018  packet last weekend. 

The academic side is not only addressed, itís more rigorous than the previous staff. 

There is a defined weight room dress code.  No hats, earrings, headbands, cutoffs, or exceptions. 

Coach Morris was also surprised that many didnít show up to the meeting last Tuesday with paper and a pen.  Itís a new world in the Smith Center. 




You mean he expects youngsters today to know what a pen and paper is used for? Next thing you know he'll require them to write in cursive. They will have to have a new class on how to do that.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2018, 02:57:06 pm »

CJ wonít leave his towel out again.  Sorry,  Iíve know him since JR High and canít call him Cheyenne.

I was lucky enough to see my sonís Winter Training Program 2018  packet last weekend. 

The academic side is not only addressed, itís more rigorous than the previous staff. 

There is a defined weight room dress code.  No hats, earrings, headbands, cutoffs, or exceptions. 

Coach Morris was also surprised that many didnít show up to the meeting last Tuesday with paper and a pen.  Itís a new world in the Smith Center.

Man.....

Sounds like he is preparing for real world job etiquette.

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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2018, 03:10:34 pm »

So just what does ďwith prowlersĒ mean?
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2018, 03:14:44 pm »

So just what does ďwith prowlersĒ mean?
AND a 50 yard suicide? Is that like a mix of all the sodas at an Arby's or something?
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2018, 03:15:17 pm »

So just what does ďwith prowlersĒ mean?

IIRC it's a workout sled where weights can be added.

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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2018, 03:16:26 pm »

CJ wonít leave his towel out again.  Sorry,  Iíve know him since JR High and canít call him Cheyenne.

I was lucky enough to see my sonís Winter Training Program 2018  packet last weekend. 

The academic side is not only addressed, itís more rigorous than the previous staff. 

There is a defined weight room dress code.  No hats, earrings, headbands, cutoffs, or exceptions. 

Coach Morris was also surprised that many didnít show up to the meeting last Tuesday with paper and a pen.  Itís a new world in the Smith Center. 



Really appreciate the info you share here.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2018, 03:16:39 pm »

Discipline and accountability is exactly what this team needs.  Last year, everything was too relax - no heart, no desire.  This disciplined approach is the exact shot in the ass needed by this team.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2018, 03:18:29 pm »

Strong discipline may help make the numbers work out too.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2018, 03:23:30 pm »

This is why I wouldn't have done well in the military or on a football team. Too many rules. Now, I'm not saying they're wrong and I don't have the first clue what it takes to run a team.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2018, 03:25:56 pm »

AND a 50 yard suicide? Is that like a mix of all the sodas at an Arby's or something?

I think prowlers are the weight sleds mentioned above...
believe a 50 yrd suicide would be like line drills;
start at goal line -> run to 10 yrd line -> run back to goal line -> run to 20 yrd line -> run back to goal line -> continue thru 50 yrd line.
possibly they go back down as well.
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« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2018, 03:28:25 pm »

Strong discipline may help make the numbers work out too.
Yep
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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2018, 03:29:21 pm »

Outstanding! Semper and I can relate.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2018, 03:34:30 pm »

I think prowlers are the weight sleds mentioned above...
believe a 50 yrd suicide would be like line drills;
start at goal line -> run to 10 yrd line -> run back to goal line -> run to 20 yrd line -> run back to goal line -> continue thru 50 yrd line
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possibly they go back down as well.


We called those "ladder drills". Brutal. They were always done at the end of practice.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2018, 03:40:06 pm »

Past coaching staff was no different in this regard.

Actions like this are good to see from a coaching staff, but if this is all it takes for you to be happy, then you should have been happy with the old staff as well.

As somebody else said, stuff like this won't win you games, but a lack of it will lose you games (see Smiley).

Benny, I donít always agree with you, but I enjoy your posts always.  In this regard you are absolutely correct.  There was a ďlaid backĒ attitude that in some ways was detrimental, but academics and carrying yourself as you should off the field were always stressed.  The mood will be less casual, but many of the principles regarding conduct that Coach Morris wants are identical to the previous staff.
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« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2018, 03:45:38 pm »

I love it! Plus these boys have to lean up some, the coaches will use every Oppurtunity to get someone a little more stronger! Extra work
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« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2018, 03:49:19 pm »

if this type of on the field and off the field discipline is surprising to you folks...then I understand why you've had a tough go of it the last few years. that goes for classroom discipline also.  you can't build a program with 115 players doing what they want, when they want, how they want.  i've been telling ya'll, CCM and this staff are the real deal. 
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« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2018, 03:50:36 pm »

This is why I wouldn't have done well in the military or on a football team. Too many rules. Now, I'm not saying they're wrong and I don't have the first clue what it takes to run a team.

If you had the talent to do so and were given a scholarship to play football at a P5 school you couldn't follow the rules set forth by the coach?
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« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2018, 04:04:48 pm »

It's a good thing.  I doubt he leaves another towel in his locker.

When I was in boot camp (U.S. Navy), they started from day 1 teaching us to say - yes sir.  If you responded when addressed with anything other than - yes sir, or aye aye sir - then it was 25 pushups.  The first 3 days I was saying sir to everyone and everything just about, but that fourth day, I guess I had some kind of aneurysm or something because I kept saying - yeah - so much so that by the end of the day, the company commander was just pointing to the deck, instead of saying - give me 25.  I bet I did 200 pushups that day.  lol  Sure taught me to not say - yeah - anymore.

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« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2018, 04:12:50 pm »

If you had the talent to do so and were given a scholarship to play football at a P5 school you couldn't follow the rules set forth by the coach?
It's a hypothetical as I certainly didn't have the talent, but in general, I avoid situations where I'm going to be micro-managed. Again, I'm not saying its the wrong way to coach a team, just what works for me.
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« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2018, 04:14:25 pm »

Sit up, put your feet on the floor, put your drinks down. Now don't leave towels in your locker. I think theses coaches are no nonsense types. Discipline and attention to detail on the field starts with instilling discipline and attention to detail off the field. I have no problem with that.

Discipline is discipline.  Get with it or get gone...
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« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2018, 04:27:11 pm »

Thoughts?   I personally like it, but I understand not everyone has a military background so it may not be for everyone.


https://twitter.com/OhMyGrady85/status/955481293394980864
Obviously a good portion of Alabama's great success has to do with their superior athletes and great talent. However, there's also no doubt that some of it also has to do with Saban's (and his staff) laser focus on details-even to practice schedules and offseason training. Yep, learn to concentrate and take care of the small details and the larger ones get to be much less difficult to address.
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« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2018, 04:38:16 pm »

IIRC didn't drew Morgan accuse CBB of falling asleep in a meeting?  If so, this staff seems to be the total opposite. Thank God!!
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« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2018, 04:43:24 pm »

Didnít DJ Williams say something insightful about coach Bís practices?
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« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2018, 05:19:05 pm »

CJ wonít leave his towel out again.  Sorry,  Iíve know him since JR High and canít call him Cheyenne.

I was lucky enough to see my sonís Winter Training Program 2018  packet last weekend. 

The academic side is not only addressed, itís more rigorous than the previous staff. 

There is a defined weight room dress code.  No hats, earrings, headbands, cutoffs, or exceptions. 

Coach Morris was also surprised that many didnít show up to the meeting last Tuesday with paper and a pen.  Itís a new world in the Smith Center.

Good to hear about the academic side. Petrino improved on Nutt, Bielema improved on Petrino, and it's great to see that Morris aims to improve upon Bielema.

No headbands in the weightroom though? Does he not expect them to sweat? Between having somebody who can't see because of the sweat in their eye, somebody having to stop to use a towel to wipe themselves off with and thus using a lot more resources, vs. wearing something designed to keep sweat out of your eyes in a hands free manner, I'd encourage the latter.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2018, 05:51:32 pm »

This is why I wouldn't have done well in the military or on a football team. Too many rules. Now, I'm not saying they're wrong and I don't have the first clue what it takes to run a team.

It all begins and ends with discipline. Do what you are told, or coached to do. In terms of football, not being disciplined enough to play the scheme as coached can put you out of position, which makes you look slower than you are, can take you or someone else who is doing their job, out of the play or less effective. I guess that is why I was always mystified by our previous staff (who was supposed to be big on discipline) when they would say things like, "Well, they were coached to do it this way...but they obviously aren't doing it." Well why not? Did they feel like they had so little talented depth that they couldn't afford to pull a guy who wasn't executing the scheme? I don't know, just speculation.

It is my hope that this isn't just a first go-round with the discipline, a shock to the system to signal the initial change. I hope they stick with it from now on because it will produce a better team overall. I'd rather have a developed 3 star guy who is disciplined in sticking to the scheme than a 4 star guy who thinks he can free-lance at times (on ability alone) and try to make a big play, but ends up giving up a big play instead.

It is often times the little things that count and end up producing a better team performance. Without discipline, the little things can sometimes be overlooked.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2018, 05:58:54 pm »

We've seen these things from Petrino and Bielema.  Each stafff had their little things.

Much more Petrino-like than Bielema-like.
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2018, 06:09:12 pm »

Accountability matters, even on the smallest of things. It's a mindset.
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2018, 06:23:58 pm »

IIRC didn't drew Morgan accuse CBB of falling asleep in a meeting? 

Didnít DJ Williams say something insightful about coach Bís practices?

Yes to both.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2018, 06:37:41 pm »

Discipline and accountability is exactly what this team needs.  Last year, everything was too relax - no heart, no desire.  This disciplined approach is the exact shot in the ass needed by this team.

I remember in the first couple of years CBB saying they must bring paper and pencil. Anyone remember a star RB running around with a mattress because he missed a meeting?

I don't recall those type of reports the last two years.
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« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2018, 06:40:53 pm »

CJ wonít leave his towel out again.  Sorry,  Iíve know him since JR High and canít call him Cheyenne.

I was lucky enough to see my sonís Winter Training Program 2018  packet last weekend. 

The academic side is not only addressed, itís more rigorous than the previous staff. 

There is a defined weight room dress code.  No hats, earrings, headbands, cutoffs, or exceptions. 

Coach Morris was also surprised that many didnít show up to the meeting last Tuesday with paper and a pen.  Itís a new world in the Smith Center. 




A little military-like discipline goes a long way.  It separates the men from the boys and helps to instill right from wrong behavior.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2018, 06:52:25 pm »

Good to hear about the academic side. Petrino improved on Nutt, Bielema improved on Petrino, and it's great to see that Morris aims to improve upon Bielema.

No headbands in the weightroom though? Does he not expect them to sweat? Between having somebody who can't see because of the sweat in their eye, somebody having to stop to use a towel to wipe themselves off with and thus using a lot more resources, vs. wearing something designed to keep sweat out of your eyes in a hands free manner, I'd encourage the latter.

Sweat gets in your eyes and it stings.  One of the little things to get used too.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2018, 06:57:38 pm »

This is why I wouldn't have done well in the military or on a football team. Too many rules. Now, I'm not saying they're wrong and I don't have the first clue what it takes to run a team.
Just listen to the guys posting here and you will find out.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2018, 07:07:40 pm »



No headbands in the weightroom though? Does he not expect them to sweat?

So what do they do on 3rd and 3 when the helmet is on and they have sweat running into their eyes? This is football after all, not tennis.
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Re: Attention to Detail
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2018, 08:44:52 pm »

Just listen to the guys posting here and you will find out.
You missed the ďI donít like people to tell me what to do partĒ
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