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Basic takeaway
« on: January 02, 2018, 10:09:52 pm »

Gafford got manhandled on the boards.  Barford basically lost the game for us.  Macon didn't  get the ball enough in 2cd half.  Thompson has massively regressed.  Jones is nowhere to be found anymore.  I give props to Bailey for his hustle.  Lots to learn from this game.  May lose the next too.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2018, 10:13:39 pm »

Thompson isnít in the athletic shape that he needs to be. Thomas isnít enough of a scorer. Those two had ZERO tonight.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2018, 10:13:50 pm »

Gafford got manhandled on the boards.  Barford basically lost the game for us.  Macon didn't  get the ball enough in 2cd half.  Thompson has massively regressed.  Jones is nowhere to be found anymore.  I give props to Bailey for his hustle.  Lots to learn from this game.  May lose the next too.

Or simply Anderson got out coached. Again.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2018, 10:15:00 pm »

Or simply Anderson got out coached. Again.
how?
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2018, 10:15:21 pm »

Dont think he was outcoached.  The players made the poor choices in the end
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2018, 10:16:42 pm »

Yeah Anderson coached them not to rebound and to miss free throws.  This was definitely not mikes fault  jeeeeez
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2018, 10:18:00 pm »

CJ Jones disappearing in the last two or three games has not been helpful. If we are going to win consistently, him knocking down 3's is a big part of that recipe. Without it we miss another weapon to keep us going during scoring droughts. We need a couple consistent players when others have off nights. Either we find that last piece or two or we are going to be in the middle of the pack.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2018, 10:18:45 pm »

Was it me or did it look like gafford had lead in his shoes? He wasn't jumping for rebounds or to block or even contest shots. He will jump for a dunk though but that was about it. CMA did not have us ready to play, plain and simple.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2018, 10:19:29 pm »

Yeah Anderson coached them not to rebound and to miss free throws.  This was definitely not mikes fault  jeeeeez

3 hogs and one bulldog under basket and they got every rebound. Lucky this game was close.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2018, 10:19:53 pm »

CJ Jones disappearing in the last two or three games has not been helpful. If we are going to win consistently, him knocking down 3's is a big part of that recipe. Without it we miss another weapon to keep us going during scoring droughts. We need a couple consistent players when others have off nights. Either we find that last piece or two or we are going to be in the middle of the pack.

Well if that is what we must have to win then mail it in now.
He is not ready for that yet.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2018, 10:20:50 pm »

The last 2 games now our last shot in regulation has not bn a good one, and both of them out of a timeout. I love coach A but I do question this part. Is that what he came up with out if a timeout?
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2018, 10:22:09 pm »

Looked to me like everyone, save Macon, had lead in their shoes tonight ... Dead legs for everyone. 3 point shooting disappeared. Rebounding disappeared. No motion. No press.

Not a whole lot of "want to" exhibited tonight ... we should've beaten MSU by more than 10 ....
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2018, 10:25:32 pm »

Gafford has learned a lot these last 2 games.  He is awesome but needs a lot of work.   He gets pushed around a lot.  Beard needs to learn to get up in the face of his guy when playing zone.  If he hangs back at all they shoot over him.  That's coaching right there
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2018, 10:26:23 pm »

Didn't understand the offense going through Thomas when he was in there. Need to play Bailey more. Thompson is the player I always knew he would be.


Finally free up to watch a game and it wasn't a good effort   

Gifford getting manhandled was a surprise.  State was very athletic and we are jinxed in that gym.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2018, 10:27:13 pm »

The basic takeaway for me was that we really needed this game tonight because I think we are about to start 1-2 in the SEC again
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2018, 10:29:00 pm »

Basic takeaway is weíre not very deep. If our bench isnít going to give us more than that weíre in trouble.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2018, 10:30:07 pm »

Basic takeaway is that we need to hit our free throws when given the opportunity.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2018, 10:30:52 pm »

The last 2 games now our last shot in regulation has not bn a good one, and both of them out of a timeout. I love coach A but I do question this part. Is that what he came up with out if a timeout?

Exactly. We still had time to go for a quick two.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2018, 10:38:54 pm »

Basic takeaway is that we need to hit our free throws when given the opportunity.

I agree it's really that simple. Have to hit the free throws to win on the road.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2018, 10:41:25 pm »

We've become focused on Offense, not Defense. Too much 1-on-1 play, not enough drive and dish.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2018, 10:42:13 pm »

A lot of good basic takeaways lol
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2018, 10:49:02 pm »

When Thompson comes in, bad things start happening. No CJ Jones anymore, it's killing us.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2018, 04:08:16 pm »

Not enough driving to collapse the defense, creating challenged and rushed shots both on the drive or the kick-out.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2018, 04:14:37 pm »

Or simply Anderson got out coached. Again.

I guess we didn't run very well set out of bounds plays as well?  The narrative on Mike on here is getting old.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2018, 09:08:45 am »

Basicly taken away by  the free throw option. I wish free throws were eliminated. They're just an opinion. And biased most of the time. If foul is called hand the fouler a citation. Three citations result in player ejection.  Cleans up and speeds up game. Refs should be held accountable as well .
Currently a gag order on coaches after being ref whipped. Two blown calls in a game should result in 10 game suspension. Games should not be determined by refs. They ruin lives. Blown calls should be a class y felony. And I will complain all I want to.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2018, 09:22:16 am »

Lots of comments about dead looking legs, lead in their shoes. Well, when your guards are having to play 35+ mins a night, that is only going to get worse. Mike's system does not ask their guards to play that much. Matter of fact, playing that much does to the Hogs what they usually do to other teams, wears them out so they are not quite as sharp late in the game.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2018, 09:34:03 am »

I've stated many times already the main take away for me is getting 11 points and 0 threes from two guys that combine for 28 points and 40% from three (Barford and Jones).

But the bigger takeaway is the impact of not have a ball handler and playmaker like Garland off the bench. He could give you 15 minutes a night that you could reduce from Barford/Macon/Beard.

For the sake of rotations, it might be best to start either Jones or Hall and let Beard come off the bench and work with the 2nd unit while he is fresh. Of course, Beard would be in there at the end of the game and get starters minutes.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2018, 09:42:24 am »

I've stated many times already the main take away for me is getting 11 points and 0 threes from two guys that combine for 28 points and 40% from three (Barford and Jones).

But the bigger takeaway is the impact of not have a ball handler and playmaker like Garland off the bench. He could give you 15 minutes a night that you could reduce from Barford/Macon/Beard.

For the sake of rotations, it might be best to start either Jones or Hall and let Beard come off the bench and work with the 2nd unit while he is fresh. Of course, Beard would be in there at the end of the game and get starters minutes.

I agree with you. My son and I were discussing this very same thing last night.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2018, 09:43:56 am »

Or simply Anderson got out coached. Again.

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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2018, 09:48:14 am »

I agree with you. My son and I were discussing this very same thing last night.

Too bad there is not someone like Babb, who would have been a Sr this year, on this team. Some of us were tarred and feathered when we said his leaving would come back to hurt the team. Averaging 12ppg and 7apg at ISU.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2018, 10:02:18 am »

Our offense grinds to a halt versus defenses that bumps cutters, and pushes them off screens. 

When that happens, offense become stand around watch people dribble.

Houston & Mississippi state both had success with this.
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Re: Basic takeaway
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2018, 10:19:23 am »

Our offense grinds to a halt versus defenses that bumps cutters, and pushes them off screens. 

When that happens, offense become stand around watch people dribble.

Houston & Mississippi state both had success with this.
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Our D becomes a "whack a mole" D when they spread us out and beat us off the dribble.
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