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Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« on: January 02, 2018, 01:13:26 pm »

http://m.espn.com/ncb/rankings?pollId=2



Michigan State (25)   745   14-1
2   Duke (4)   720   13-1
3   Villanova (1)   658   13-1
4   Xavier   643   14-1
5   West Virginia   613   13-1
6   Arizona State   559   12-1
7   Oklahoma   527   11-1
8   Virginia   514   12-1
9   Wichita State   466   11-2
10   Kansas   455   11-2
11   North Carolina   430   12-2
12   Purdue   427   13-2
13   Texas A&M   389   11-2
14   Kentucky   347   11-2
15   TCU   346   12-1
16   Arizona   315   11-3
17   Miami   313   12-1
18   Texas Tech   243   12-1
19   Gonzaga   208   12-3
20   Cincinnati   168   12-2
21   Seton Hall   166   13-2
22   Tennessee   93   9-3
23   Arkansas   86   11-2
24   Creighton   68   11-3
25   Clemson
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2018, 01:15:16 pm »

Somewhat surprised at Tennessee staying ahead of us, given similar resumes when they have more losses and we beat them head to head.

The Houston loss was certainly worse than any of UT’s three losses though.

If we can manage 2-0 on the road this week against two solid one loss teams, we’ll keep
Climbing.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2018, 01:16:46 pm »

http://m.espn.com/ncb/rankings?pollId=2



Michigan State (25)   745   14-1
2   Duke (4)   720   13-1
3   Villanova (1)   658   13-1
4   Xavier   643   14-1
5   West Virginia   613   13-1
6   Arizona State   559   12-1
7   Oklahoma   527   11-1
8   Virginia   514   12-1
9   Wichita State   466   11-2
10   Kansas   455   11-2
11   North Carolina   430   12-2
12   Purdue   427   13-2
13   Texas A&M   389   11-2
14   Kentucky   347   11-2
15   TCU   346   12-1
16   Arizona   315   11-3
17   Miami   313   12-1
18   Texas Tech   243   12-1
19   Gonzaga   208   12-3
20   Cincinnati   168   12-2
21   Seton Hall   166   13-2
22   Tennessee   93   9-3
23   Arkansas   86   11-2
24   Creighton   68   11-3
25   Clemson
It's still too low, especially with 9-3 Tennessee who we just beat right ahead of us.  It's all good though.  The chip on our guys shoulders just gets a bit bigger.  Mike will spin this into a motivational tactic.  If we keep winning and playing up to our ability, they will be forced to rank us higher. 
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2018, 01:17:53 pm »

Somewhat surprised at Tennessee staying ahead of us, given similar resumes when they have more losses and we beat them head to head.

The Houston loss was certainly worse than any of UT’s three losses though.

If we can manage 2-0 on the road this week against two solid one loss teams, we’ll keep
Climbing.
Tennessee is still living off that close loss to UNC.  Had we played the Heels within 6 at PK80, we'd be getting more love than we are, even with the Houston debacle.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2018, 01:22:14 pm »

Tennessee is still living off that close loss to UNC.  Had we played the Heels within 6 at PK80, we'd be getting more love than we are, even with the Houston debacle.

They played Nova close, too.

All three of their losses are to top 10 RPI teams who are ranked in both polls compared to our Houston loss.

But our signature win (OU) is arguably better than theirs (Purdue).
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2018, 01:38:32 pm »

You can still make the argument that Tennessee would be better on a neutral floor, so it doesn't bother me too much that some place them higher. While we aren't playing top tier competition this week, two wins should push us into the mid-high teens, and should still be ranked with just one loss.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2018, 02:09:43 pm »



It's still too low, especially with 9-3 Tennessee who we just beat right ahead of us.  It's all good though.  The chip on our guys shoulders just gets a bit bigger.  Mike will spin this into a motivational tactic.  If we keep winning and playing up to our ability, they will be forced to rank us higher. 

I'm okay with it. If we would have played Tennessee at home or on a Neutral Floor, they would have most likely won. Bud Walton kept our team in the game. It's a minimum of a +5 pt advantage for us.

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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2018, 02:13:37 pm »


I'm okay with it. If we would have played Tennessee at home or on a Neutral Floor, they would have most likely won. Bud Walton kept our team in the game. It's a minimum of a +5 pt advantage for us.

Good point. It’s not shocking, but I still would’ve given the hogs the nod due to only having 2 losses and to having the better signature win.

But Arkansas and Tennessee should be similarly ranked right now, and we are. I don’t know that we’d win in Knoxville.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2018, 02:27:36 pm »

Somewhat surprised at Tennessee staying ahead of us, given similar resumes when they have more losses and we beat them head to head.



And we have an RPI of 4 and they are 9?
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2018, 03:13:30 pm »

And we have an RPI of 4 and they are 9?
Yes but as the announcers stated during the game, "Tennessee is clearly the better team."

It's like the Coaches on the poll committee don't watch SEC Basketball... Oh wait, they don't... And claim we're "Down again this year"
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2018, 03:23:11 pm »

Yes but as the announcers stated during the game, "Tennessee is clearly the better team."

It's like the Coaches on the poll committee don't watch SEC Basketball... Oh wait, they don't... And claim we're "Down again this year"

The coaches don't really participate in these polls for they most part. It's usually someone in the athletic department.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2018, 03:39:26 pm »

And we have an RPI of 4 and they are 9?

Nope. Their RPI is 12. Ours is 4.

AP: Hogs 22; Tenn 23

Coaches: Hogs 23, Tenn 22

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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2018, 07:49:29 pm »

Us and TN have very similar resumes and rankings. But at the end of the season we got the W. It’ll work itself out.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2018, 10:06:45 pm »

We don't need to worry about the polls now
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2018, 10:09:08 pm »

We don't need to worry about the polls now

We shouldn’t have been worried about them to begin with. Especially the players.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2018, 10:11:33 pm »

We don't need to worry about the polls now
Never did.  The players need to stop feeling disrespected about our ranking and start beating average teams on the road.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2018, 10:11:34 pm »

There was WAY too much emphasis on the polls. Come on folks. This team is going to have to learn to win games like tonight. Until we can show we are tough enough to win road games we need to quit worrying about where we are ranked. And, after tonight we probably don’t need to worry anyway.
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2018, 10:13:22 pm »

The poll talk was before the loss. Don't waste your breath with "I told you so".
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Re: Coaches Poll: Hogs 23rd
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2018, 09:10:09 pm »

That was a short stay.
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