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Re: DWR Expansion
« Reply #150 on: January 19, 2018, 01:45:39 pm »

You could set up some nasty screen plays if there were several cranes on the field.

Home field advantage.....
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« Reply #151 on: January 19, 2018, 01:47:49 pm »

You could set up some nasty screen plays if there were several cranes on the field.

Or we could use ladders...
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Re: DWR Expansion
« Reply #152 on: January 19, 2018, 01:55:02 pm »

So, it was a tradition. You never saw people sitting on the hill watching a game, taking a picture, or read about this?
Interestingly, I never noticed fans sitting on the hill for games.  If they actually were, it was still not considered a "tradition" at the time.  Further, until this expansion, I had never heard it referred to as such. 
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« Reply #153 on: January 19, 2018, 01:57:27 pm »

So, it was a tradition. You never saw people sitting on the hill watching a game, taking a picture, or read about this?

Most of us traditionally stop at red lights, but that's not the type of tradition we're talking about.  Looking into the stadium while driving down Maple doesn't sound like a tradition to me.  Sitting on the hill near the stoplight and watching games has, I suppose, been a tradition, and maybe that spot offers a good photo op.  My point, and razCzar's, is that I doubt any of us considered those things to be great Arkansas traditions until we were told they are when the plans were released. 

Here's the official release:

"Every college football stadium has its signature architectural focal point. The look-in opening on the northeast corner of DWRRS is its most recognizable vantage point, allowing Arkansans throughout the years to peer onto the field to see the Razorback at midfield and the illuminated Home of the Razorbacks display. The renovation project will preserve and build upon this iconic feature as a nod toward the unparalleled traditions of Razorback Football."

That seems to have evolved a bit since the first press release.  I get the point and agree that people, including myself, have enjoyed looking into the stadium from the north side for any number of reasons for generations.  If the athletic department wants to describe that as a tradition it's fine with me. 
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Re: DWR Expansion
« Reply #154 on: January 19, 2018, 01:59:12 pm »

Interestingly, I never noticed fans sitting on the hill for games.  If they actually were, it was still not considered a "tradition" at the time.  Further, until this expansion, I had never heard it referred to as such. 

Ever since I started going to the games in 1999, that corner was full of people sitting in the grass watching what they could of the game.
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« Reply #155 on: January 19, 2018, 02:01:40 pm »

Ever since I started going to the games in 1999, that corner was full of people sitting in the grass watching what they could of the game.

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« Reply #156 on: January 19, 2018, 02:02:16 pm »

Most of us traditionally stop at red lights, but that's not the type of tradition we're talking about.  Looking into the stadium while driving down Maple doesn't sound like a tradition to me.  Sitting on the hill near the stoplight and watching games has, I suppose, been a tradition, and maybe that spot offers a good photo op.  My point, and razCzar's, is that I doubt any of us considered those things to be great Arkansas traditions until we were told they are when the plans were released. 

Here's the official release:

"Every college football stadium has its signature architectural focal point. The look-in opening on the northeast corner of DWRRS is its most recognizable vantage point, allowing Arkansans throughout the years to peer onto the field to see the Razorback at midfield and the illuminated Home of the Razorbacks display. The renovation project will preserve and build upon this iconic feature as a nod toward the unparalleled traditions of Razorback Football."

That seems to have evolved a bit since the first press release.  I get the point and agree that people, including myself, have enjoyed looking into the stadium from the north side for any number of reasons for generations.  If the athletic department wants to describe that as a tradition it's fine with me.
Exactly. 
I have no problem with new traditions.
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Re: DWR Expansion
« Reply #157 on: January 19, 2018, 02:04:45 pm »

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They are. The Grassy knoll is gone.
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« Reply #158 on: January 19, 2018, 02:25:09 pm »

Most of us traditionally stop at red lights, but that's not the type of tradition we're talking about.  Looking into the stadium while driving down Maple doesn't sound like a tradition to me.  Sitting on the hill near the stoplight and watching games has, I suppose, been a tradition, and maybe that spot offers a good photo op.  My point, and razCzar's, is that I doubt any of us considered those things to be great Arkansas traditions until we were told they are when the plans were released. 

Here's the official release:

"Every college football stadium has its signature architectural focal point. The look-in opening on the northeast corner of DWRRS is its most recognizable vantage point, allowing Arkansans throughout the years to peer onto the field to see the Razorback at midfield and the illuminated Home of the Razorbacks display. The renovation project will preserve and build upon this iconic feature as a nod toward the unparalleled traditions of Razorback Football."

That seems to have evolved a bit since the first press release.  I get the point and agree that people, including myself, have enjoyed looking into the stadium from the north side for any number of reasons for generations.  If the athletic department wants to describe that as a tradition it's fine with me.

I'm 40-ish, and I live in Central Arkansas, raised in south and Central Arkansas, and I can tell you that since I was a kid and going to games with my dad and since I have been old enough to drive myself to Fayetteville for games or go through the area for any reason if we have the extra time we usually stop by there to look down into the stadium, sometimes to take pictures sometimes not, and as often as not I run into other fans there doing the same thing.  I don't mean we watch games there, It's always been on a non-game day like a day before or after a game or sometime during the off season.  I liked to do it when I was a kid and my kids like to do it now. I guess it's because we don't live in the area so it has always been a neat thing for us to just drop in and be able to see down onto the field. I don't know if you want to call that a tradition or not, but I did that with my dad and I do it now with my kids.I don't think it was made up to sell an architectural feature of the stadium     
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« Reply #159 on: January 19, 2018, 02:33:22 pm »

That would be cool.  Could also have conference championship banners and bowl banners as well.

That's what we need - a constant reminder of how we have sucked since joining the SEC. All of those SWC banners would simply highlight this.
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« Reply #160 on: January 19, 2018, 03:51:34 pm »

Most of us traditionally stop at red lights, but that's not the type of tradition we're talking about.  Looking into the stadium while driving down Maple doesn't sound like a tradition to me.  Sitting on the hill near the stoplight and watching games has, I suppose, been a tradition, and maybe that spot offers a good photo op.  My point, and razCzar's, is that I doubt any of us considered those things to be great Arkansas traditions until we were told they are when the plans were released. 

Here's the official release:

"Every college football stadium has its signature architectural focal point. The look-in opening on the northeast corner of DWRRS is its most recognizable vantage point, allowing Arkansans throughout the years to peer onto the field to see the Razorback at midfield and the illuminated Home of the Razorbacks display. The renovation project will preserve and build upon this iconic feature as a nod toward the unparalleled traditions of Razorback Football."

That seems to have evolved a bit since the first press release.  I get the point and agree that people, including myself, have enjoyed looking into the stadium from the north side for any number of reasons for generations.  If the athletic department wants to describe that as a tradition it's fine with me. 

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.   I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.

There's something unique--and uniquely Arkansas about it:  not just the fact that you can see into the stadium itself, but also the fact that in the Ozarks, unlike most mountain ranges, you don't stand at the bottom and look up so much as stand on top of the mountains and look down.  I can't think of many stadiums you descend into.  It's maybe one of the reasons Freddie Steinmark said that "playing in Fayetteville is like parachuting into Russia."

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« Reply #161 on: January 19, 2018, 03:56:41 pm »

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.  I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.


+1000 I'd call that a tradition, just as I would about the poster and his Dad, and now his children.
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« Reply #162 on: January 19, 2018, 04:16:29 pm »

+1000 I'd call that a tradition, just as I would about the poster and his Dad, and now his children.

I do the same thing.  I live 1000 miles away now, but we visit Fayetteville every summer.  One of the first things my boys want to do, who are about the same age I was when I really fell for the Hogs, is drive by and look at the stadium.  (I don't tell them I thought they'd never ask.)  I always go out of my way to take them up Maple, wherever we may be when they happen to ask.  And I can tell it affects them the same way it did me when I was their age. 

I admit that the new design takes some getting used to.  It's asymmetrical, for one thing, as many people complained.  And a lot of us have spent a year staring at the construction cameras, which shows the thing from its most unflattering perspective--the tower in the southwest end zone.  This accentuates the gap, as does the fact that the seating and the northeast tower are unfinished.  The view will be very different from almost everywhere else inside the stadium.  I think the mockups look great, and I think when it's finished and all tied together, it's going to be really impressive.  At least I hope so.  And I, for one, will be happy if I can peer down from the top of Maple and read "Home of the Razorbacks." 

Or just "Home", for that matter.
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« Reply #163 on: January 19, 2018, 06:54:22 pm »

That's what we need - a constant reminder of how we have sucked since joining the SEC. All of those SWC banners would simply highlight this.

Yes, yes, yes.  That 1964 “national champion” banner would seal the deal for recruits.
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« Reply #164 on: January 21, 2018, 11:39:29 am »

Ever since I started going to the games in 1999, that corner was full of people sitting in the grass watching what they could of the game.

I think he means across the road where the hill goes up towards the Administration building. There have always been people sitting on the grassy hill inside the stadium sidewalk watching games.
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« Reply #165 on: January 21, 2018, 11:44:09 am »

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.   I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.

There's something unique--and uniquely Arkansas about it:  not just the fact that you can see into the stadium itself, but also the fact that in the Ozarks, unlike most mountain ranges, you don't stand at the bottom and look up so much as stand on top of the mountains and look down.  I can't think of many stadiums you descend into.  It's maybe one of the reasons Freddie Steinmark said that "playing in Fayetteville is like parachuting into Russia."



Agree. The one that I've seen that rivals that view is from the back top of the end zone hill at Clemson where Howards Rock is and the players run down into the stadium.
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« Reply #166 on: January 21, 2018, 11:45:38 am »

I do the same thing.  I live 1000 miles away now, but we visit Fayetteville every summer.  One of the first things my boys want to do, who are about the same age I was when I really fell for the Hogs, is drive by and look at the stadium.  (I don't tell them I thought they'd never ask.)  I always go out of my way to take them up Maple, wherever we may be when they happen to ask.  And I can tell it affects them the same way it did me when I was their age. 

I admit that the new design takes some getting used to.  It's asymmetrical, for one thing, as many people complained.  And a lot of us have spent a year staring at the construction cameras, which shows the thing from its most unflattering perspective--the tower in the southwest end zone.  This accentuates the gap, as does the fact that the seating and the northeast tower are unfinished.  The view will be very different from almost everywhere else inside the stadium.  I think the mockups look great, and I think when it's finished and all tied together, it's going to be really impressive.  At least I hope so.  And I, for one, will be happy if I can peer down from the top of Maple and read "Home of the Razorbacks." 

Or just "Home", for that matter.

Several stadiums are asymmetrical now either through renovations/additions or new construction.
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« Reply #167 on: January 21, 2018, 11:47:29 am »

The NEZ expansion #1 Time-Lapse camera has been blurry since Friday.
On one of your frequent trips to Maple @ Stadium, ricepig, maybe you can climb up and refocus.  lol
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« Reply #168 on: January 21, 2018, 11:50:56 am »

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.   I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.

There's something unique--and uniquely Arkansas about it:  not just the fact that you can see into the stadium itself, but also the fact that in the Ozarks, unlike most mountain ranges, you don't stand at the bottom and look up so much as stand on top of the mountains and look down.  I can't think of many stadiums you descend into.  It's maybe one of the reasons Freddie Steinmark said that "playing in Fayetteville is like parachuting into Russia."



Good post. I feel the same way in many respects. The view as a whole is the reason the corner of Maple and Stadium is a photo op. The view wouldn’t be the same without the stadium. The view of the field itself makes it better.

I never said anything about a Jeff Long marketing ploy. Does it feel that way to you?
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« Reply #169 on: January 21, 2018, 11:55:15 am »

The NEZ expansion #1 Time-Lapse camera has been blurry since Friday.
On one of your frequent trips to Maple @ Stadium, ricepig, maybe you can climb up and refocus.  lol

I guess you aren't paying for the premium camera, are you? It's been perfectly in focus.......
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« Reply #170 on: January 21, 2018, 12:08:39 pm »

I guess you aren't paying for the premium camera, are you? It's been perfectly in focus.......
Oh, you thought I was referring to the camera??
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« Reply #171 on: January 21, 2018, 12:34:15 pm »

Good post. I feel the same way in many respects. The view as a whole is the reason the corner of Maple and Stadium is a photo op. The view wouldn’t be the same without the stadium. The view of the field itself makes it better.

I never said anything about a Jeff Long marketing ploy. Does it feel that way to you?

No, not really.  I guess that was how I interpreted it when you said, "I doubt any of us considered those things to be great Arkansas traditions until we were told they are when the plans were released."  Forgive me if I jumped to conclusions.  There's a lot of cynicism around here about everything Jeff Long did.  I probably just assimilated it into that. 

 
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« Reply #172 on: January 21, 2018, 05:19:34 pm »

Won't get any louder if people are behind glass and no part of the game
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« Reply #173 on: January 21, 2018, 05:22:24 pm »

Won't get any louder if people are behind glass and no part of the game

The suites have outdoor seats, and the loge box and club seats are all outside. I guess you haven't looked at the rendering of the construction cameras?
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« Reply #174 on: January 21, 2018, 06:36:03 pm »

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« Reply #175 on: January 21, 2018, 07:36:54 pm »

Won't get any louder if people are behind glass and no part of the game

Haven't you heard. It was designed with exactly the right curvature that all the existing seats noise will bounce off it into only the opponents sideline.
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« Reply #176 on: January 25, 2018, 11:08:43 pm »

Maybe it has something to do with being from central/south arkansas. Those of you lucky enough to live in NWA don’t appreciate the view as much as some of us poor delta hicks. I have about 10-15 photos of the stadium through the gap from the 90s to early 2000s when it went through the first renovation. Also have some pics of bud Walton arena from the 9th floor of Yokum when it was just a hole in the ground. Maybe some blurry pictures of Humphries at night too, but no one would want to see those.
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« Reply #177 on: January 26, 2018, 12:14:04 am »

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.   I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.

There's something unique--and uniquely Arkansas about it:  not just the fact that you can see into the stadium itself, but also the fact that in the Ozarks, unlike most mountain ranges, you don't stand at the bottom and look up so much as stand on top of the mountains and look down.  I can't think of many stadiums you descend into.  It's maybe one of the reasons Freddie Steinmark said that "playing in Fayetteville is like parachuting into Russia."



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« Reply #178 on: January 26, 2018, 05:19:14 am »

Or we could just call it section ADD and everyone would understand and be done with it.
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« Reply #179 on: January 26, 2018, 06:36:16 am »

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.   I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.

There's something unique--and uniquely Arkansas about it:  not just the fact that you can see into the stadium itself, but also the fact that in the Ozarks, unlike most mountain ranges, you don't stand at the bottom and look up so much as stand on top of the mountains and look down.  I can't think of many stadiums you descend into.  It's maybe one of the reasons Freddie Steinmark said that "playing in Fayetteville is like parachuting into Russia."



 My son and I stop right in that corner and peek in every year when we drive through that way. It's a family tradition for sure. I guess that they have noticed over the years how many people stop to see inside.
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« Reply #180 on: January 26, 2018, 07:54:29 am »

1/26
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« Reply #181 on: January 26, 2018, 05:49:13 pm »

That might fly with the hippies in Colorado, but not here.

Hey do us HIPPIES here in Colorado a favor...take 70 to Goodland and spin yourself back around with your condescending high morality and roll on back to whatever 50's lifestyle you strive to live in...We Colorado HIPPIES certainly will not miss you or your attitude.

   
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« Reply #182 on: January 26, 2018, 06:01:14 pm »

Oh, what a relief.  I was just about to start a "Save the Yellow Cranes!" campaign.

They are not an endangered species.......................
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« Reply #183 on: January 26, 2018, 06:14:05 pm »

Hey do us HIPPIES here in Colorado a favor...take 70 to Goodland and spin yourself back around with your condescending high morality and roll on back to whatever 50's lifestyle you strive to live in...We Colorado HIPPIES certainly will not miss you or your attitude.
 

 Wow... Pot meet kettle. pun fully intended. ;)
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« Reply #184 on: January 30, 2018, 07:55:08 am »

Does anyone know what the long term plan is for DWRRS?  At what point does the 70 year + concrete and steel become a hazard and when have to build from scratch?  Just curious if there are plans for a complete rebuild in 50 years or so?
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« Reply #185 on: January 30, 2018, 08:17:37 am »

Does anyone know what the long term plan is for DWRRS?  At what point does the 70 year + concrete and steel become a hazard and when have to build from scratch?  Just curious if there are plans for a complete rebuild in 50 years or so?

We'll let our great great grandchildren worry about that  :D
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« Reply #186 on: January 30, 2018, 08:20:25 am »

Hey do us HIPPIES here in Colorado a favor...take 70 to Goodland and spin yourself back around with your condescending high morality and roll on back to whatever 50's lifestyle you strive to live in...We Colorado HIPPIES certainly will not miss you or your attitude.

 

You’re so brave.


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« Reply #187 on: January 30, 2018, 09:20:26 am »

Does anyone know what the long term plan is for DWRRS?  At what point does the 70 year + concrete and steel become a hazard and when have to build from scratch?  Just curious if there are plans for a complete rebuild in 50 years or so?
Idk but we can only hope WMS is getting close to that.
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« Reply #188 on: January 30, 2018, 11:49:54 am »

Idk but we can only hope WMS is getting close to that.

I think a few years ago it had a chunk of concrete fall out underneath on the walkway. It wasn't real big but IIRC they went back and did some repairs and crack filling type stuff. Concrete will have some cracks in it. 99.999% of the time they have nothing to do with the structural integrity of the building but if large chunks start to fall out then it could be a problem. Nothing built by humans lasts forever and at some point stadiums have to be replaced for reasons other than getting more suites, etc.
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« Reply #189 on: January 30, 2018, 12:25:47 pm »

We'll let our great great grandchildren worry about that  :D

By that time it will be valuable beach front property due to global warming according to Hawgbawb..............................


Maybe they can sell it then and pay off the national debt.
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« Reply #190 on: January 30, 2018, 12:52:19 pm »

By that time it will be valuable beach front property due to global warming according to Hawgbawb..............................


Maybe they can sell it then and pay off the national debt.

Funny I’ve had this same thought. Not that it would rise that much but beaches in Arkansas is a plus. If I’m V Putin, I’m running 200 hummers in front of the Kremlin 24/7, warm that country up.

Ok I digress. In 50ish years I imagine the east and west stands will be renovated to keep them up properly.
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« Reply #191 on: January 30, 2018, 07:11:34 pm »

1/26

That opening looks more and more stupid by the day. Thanks Jeffy! At least empty boxes couldn't be seen so easily. We also could have put some sort of club, academic center, convention center (that could be rented out for events year round or something), etc. there. Dumb!
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« Reply #192 on: January 30, 2018, 07:36:22 pm »

That opening looks more and more stupid by the day. Thanks Jeffy! At least empty boxes couldn't be seen so easily. We also could have put some sort of club, academic center, convention center (that could be rented out for events year round or something), etc. there. Dumb!

What's empty? Suites and loge boxes will be full, the club seats??
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« Reply #193 on: January 30, 2018, 07:40:16 pm »

What's empty? Suites and loge boxes will be full, the club seats??
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« Reply #194 on: January 31, 2018, 12:09:56 am »

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.   I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.

There's something unique--and uniquely Arkansas about it:  not just the fact that you can see into the stadium itself, but also the fact that in the Ozarks, unlike most mountain ranges, you don't stand at the bottom and look up so much as stand on top of the mountains and look down.  I can't think of many stadiums you descend into.  It's maybe one of the reasons Freddie Steinmark said that "playing in Fayetteville is like parachuting into Russia."



Well said.

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« Reply #195 on: January 31, 2018, 01:49:27 am »

If the point of this is to discredit this "tradition" as some empty Jeff Long inspired marketing ploy, then fine, I have no stake in calling it that.  Nor do I think it has ever been customary, at least since the North End Zone facility was built in the 70s, for many people to cop a free view of the game from the hill to the northeast.  Certainly not enough to merit that designation.

But for me at least, there has always been something a little magical and awe-inspiring about topping over the hill on Maple (the way my family always came to the games when I was a kid and the way I prefer to approach the stadium even now), peering down into the stadium in the valley, and seeing the green turf below and "Home of the Razorbacks" in bold red letters on the press box above, a detail that dates from at least the 1970s and has been retained through every renovation since. 

There's a reason for that 1950s photo of people picnicking on the hill above, a reason why many fans, myself included, have taken photos of themselves and their friends from that location, a reason why College Gameday chose that northeast corner as the location for their set on their one visit to Fayetteville.  It's an awesome view.  I thought it was awesome when I was 10 years old in 1977 and Razorback Stadium was a 41,000 seat erector set with a metal press box on top, and it's awesome now.  Maybe it's just me, but there's always something a little bit thrilling about approaching a stadium.  I imagine it's sort of like the experience of a medieval peasant approaching a giant cathedral towering in the distance above everything else.  I've seen bigger stadiums and stadiums situated in more dramatic settings.  I've seen DKR in Austin, Notre Dame stadium, Bryant-Denny, Jordan-Hare, Neyland, and Folsom Field nestled against the Flatirons in Boulder.  I've kayaked right up to Huskie Stadium from Lake Washington in Seattle.  I'm sure there are some others I've forgotten, and some--like Rutgers--which I've tried to forget.  I'm know I'm biased, but for my money the approach to Razorback Stadium, at least from the northeast, is as awe-inspiring any in college football.   I don't know whether that's a tradition, but I have always thought that.  Apparently someone who had a hand in the design did too.

There's something unique--and uniquely Arkansas about it:  not just the fact that you can see into the stadium itself, but also the fact that in the Ozarks, unlike most mountain ranges, you don't stand at the bottom and look up so much as stand on top of the mountains and look down.  I can't think of many stadiums you descend into.  It's maybe one of the reasons Freddie Steinmark said that "playing in Fayetteville is like parachuting into Russia."

This ^^^
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« Reply #196 on: January 31, 2018, 09:15:25 am »

The opening on the northeast side of the stadium is the ‘million dollar view’ for the campus …

So many folks visit that area to take pictures, get a glimpse into the actual stadium and probably reminisce of past games and their time on campus.  For some fans and visitors, its kinda like walking up to the edge of the Grand Canyon and peering in, an ooh-and-aah moment.
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« Reply #197 on: January 31, 2018, 01:15:05 pm »

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« Reply #198 on: January 31, 2018, 01:16:34 pm »

Interestingly, I never noticed fans sitting on the hill for games.  If they actually were, it was still not considered a "tradition" at the time.  Further, until this expansion, I had never heard it referred to as such.
That's strange. I noticed it in my first game there (Texas in '88 iirc) and every big game since. Odd you never noticed it. How many games have you attended?
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« Reply #199 on: January 31, 2018, 01:26:35 pm »

The opening on the northeast side of the stadium is the ‘million dollar view’ for the campus …

So many folks visit that area to take pictures, get a glimpse into the actual stadium and probably reminisce of past games and their time on campus.  For some fans and visitors, its kinda like walking up to the edge of the Grand Canyon and peering in, an ooh-and-aah moment.

This is so true^^^^
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