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If BB gets the axe
« on: November 10, 2017, 04:53:30 pm »

What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2017, 04:57:43 pm »

Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2017, 04:59:06 pm »

What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.

I can't say for all of them, but you'd have to think they would be commits to the school as much as anything. They don't live in a bubble and they have to know that a change is inevitable.  That being said, I also know that Norvell has been recruiting several of the kids including Connor Nowland.  I don't think it matters as much with that kid though as I think he wants to be a diamond hog as much as a qb, which is awesome.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2017, 04:59:39 pm »

Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2017, 05:02:18 pm »

Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ

Hey PRJ

Do you feel like Norvell will be target #1?
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2017, 05:02:37 pm »

1. I don't think IF is applicable anymore.  It's now WHEN.

2.  The impact will probably be greater on the current roster than recruiting.  A change in coaching usually results in a change in philosophy.  There will be some players who might transfer due to style.  That is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2017, 05:03:35 pm »

Hey PRJ

Do you feel like Norvell will be target #1?

I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2017, 05:04:10 pm »

I can't say for all of them, but you'd have to think they would be commits to the school as much as anything. They don't live in a bubble and they have to know that a change is inevitable.  That being said, I also know that Norvell has been recruiting several of the kids including Connor Nowland.  I don't think it matters as much with that kid though as I think he wants to be a diamond hog as much as a qb, which is awesome.

I've seen where one recruiting "guru" said he thought at least 6 would stay no matter who the coach was, I'm assuming he was thinking no JLS hire.....
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2017, 05:04:23 pm »

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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2017, 05:04:36 pm »

We have 12 scholarships to offer.  I think Half would be Hogs no matter what.    I think any new coach’s ability to improve or hurt this class is pretty nominal.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2017, 05:05:35 pm »

We have 12 scholarships to offer.  I think Half would be Hogs no matter what.    I think any new coach’s ability to improve or hurt this class is pretty nominal.

We'll sign 15-18.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2017, 05:12:22 pm »

I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ
I hope you just ate something that disagrees with you.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2017, 05:16:42 pm »

What will the impact be on recruiting?

Are the small number of commits hard to the UofA or BB or their position coach?

Would an early BB exit help considering we get a good/great hire?

I'll hang up and listen.

A possible impact would be recruited Olineman playing on the O line.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2017, 05:17:16 pm »

I hope you just ate something that disagrees with you.


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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2017, 05:18:50 pm »

Get the right coach...ahem...Norvell....and it will improve....

PRJ

Not sure why Norvell would perform at recruiting any better than CBB.  Maybe a little excitement about being the new guy, but he'll still be a relative unknown to most recruits...selling his success at Memphis.  I like the guy, and think he *might* make a good HC at Arkansas, but I doubt he recruits any better than CBB...unless he goes all Freeze on us. ;)
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2017, 05:22:33 pm »

I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ

You have way more to worry it being Les than Gus. Gus will NEVER coach @ Arkansas
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2017, 05:27:19 pm »

You have way more to worry it being Les than Gus. Gus will NEVER coach @ Arkansas
I've said that for years, now I'm not as sure as I was a week ago.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2017, 05:38:00 pm »

You have way more to worry it being Les than Gus. Gus will NEVER coach @ Arkansas

No....I don't because Long isn't going to make the decision this time.

And there are some voices for Gus. The anti Gus people ain't got a dog in the fight this time.

PRJ
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2017, 05:38:28 pm »

Someone getting our coach an axe for Christmas? I'd suggest this one.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2017, 05:38:45 pm »

Not sure why Norvell would perform at recruiting any better than CBB.  Maybe a little excitement about being the new guy, but he'll still be a relative unknown to most recruits...selling his success at Memphis.  I like the guy, and think he *might* make a good HC at Arkansas, but I doubt he recruits any better than CBB...unless he goes all Freeze on us. ;)

I think he would recruit the heck out of east Texas.

PRJ
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2017, 05:39:27 pm »

I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ


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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2017, 05:41:55 pm »


We may have a dry spell for a year or so, then it will pick back up to be where we normally are. Hopefully, a top 15 class every year would be a dream.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2017, 05:43:40 pm »

No....I don't because Long isn't going to make the decision this time.

And there are some voices for Gus. The anti Gus people ain't got a dog in the fight this time.

PRJ

The $$$$ doesn’t want Gus, so no Gus. We won’t be looking backwards. Gus has 0.0%. His name may be floated, but if they beat Georgia, it won’t even be floated. Unless, something drastic changes it’ll most likely be Norvell or Neal Brown.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2017, 05:48:32 pm »

The $$$$ doesn’t want Gus, so no Gus. We won’t be looking backwards. Gus has 0.0%. His name may be floated, but if they beat Georgia, it won’t even be floated. Unless, something drastic changes it’ll most likely be Norvell or Neal Brown.
Are you sure about $$$ not wanting Gus?
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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2017, 05:48:55 pm »

The $$$$ doesn’t want Gus, so no Gus. We won’t be looking backwards. Gus has 0.0%. His name may be floated, but if they beat Georgia, it won’t even be floated. Unless, something drastic changes it’ll most likely be Norvell or Neal Brown.
Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.
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« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2017, 05:50:54 pm »

I don't see improvement in whomever is coach is. Even with (in the minds of many) the legendary Bobby P,we stayed in the same mid twenty range we ALWAYS have.
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« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2017, 05:51:29 pm »

Some of the money wants Gus.
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2017, 05:53:11 pm »

Hey PRJ

Do you feel like Norvell will be target #1?

No he says its Horton and maybe Gus...for now.
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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2017, 06:02:01 pm »

I think he would recruit the heck out of east Texas.

PRJ

Better than the last 2 or 3 regimes?  I doubt it.  That's the most heavily recruited area in Texas, and I see no reason to be optimistic about an unknown coach being successful out of the gate.  Maybe he'll develop it, but I don't think that'll be the case on day 1... or year 1.  Someone with an immediate recruiting impact is more likely to be someone who has name recognition with a record of success at a big program.  If you look at Long's coaching hires over his career, he goes after big names...and yes, I think he will be the guy doing the hiring if/when there's an opening.  It would be a departure of sorts for him to hire someone like Norvell.  We'll see.  If CBB isn't fired, Hogville will become a fantastic spectator sport.  If he is fired, Hogville is at its best during the hiring process.  It's going to be an interesting next several weeks, regardless.
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« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2017, 06:04:39 pm »

We'll sign 15-18.

Some transfering for playing time?  Because of staff changes?
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« Reply #31 on: November 10, 2017, 06:07:31 pm »


I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ

Me too
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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #32 on: November 10, 2017, 06:07:38 pm »

It may take a dip this cycle, but every coach has recruited about the same.
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2017, 06:08:36 pm »

Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.

There’s no scenario where Gus leaves Auburn to come here, but if he’s fired it may be mentioned. If he wins against Auburn or Alabama there’s no way he’ll be fired. Not sure why his name has been mentioned so much lately, nor how he has gained support in the last couple of weeks. Apparently, something has changed. I’d be amazed if it happened. I think he splits the fan base, and other reasons keep him from ever coming here. Time will tell.
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« Reply #34 on: November 10, 2017, 06:13:01 pm »

It may take a dip this cycle, but every coach has recruited about the same.

Yep.  The only thing you likely avoid by hiring a big name is the dip.  Bielema did pretty well his first year.
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« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2017, 06:17:07 pm »

Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.

Shhh! Shut your mouth!  Think positive thoughts, no negative waves.

That being said, I heard a rumor after a funeral in Fort Smith a few weeks ago.

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Re: If BB gets the axe
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2017, 06:21:50 pm »

I believe he is one of Two.

I keep getting this nauseous feeling in my stomach about Gus though.

PRJ

Please don't go there...lol
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« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2017, 06:31:09 pm »

Some transfering for playing time?  Because of staff changes?

We currently have 12 commits + 2 blue shirts from last, that equals 14, so that's only 1 to 4 more, not a big turn over.
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« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2017, 06:39:14 pm »

I think Gus is 1 and Norvell 1A. Gus has relationships with high schools as does Norvell in state.  I’d be happy with either
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« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2017, 06:40:16 pm »

60% Gus Malzahn.. The bus is gassed up and headed west for the Ozark mountains.
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« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2017, 06:48:16 pm »

I don't see Gus coming here.  We do not have the talent that he has at Auburn and it would take too long to rebuild.
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« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2017, 06:49:22 pm »

I’d take Gus in a heartbeat.  Should have been the hire instead of Bert anyway.
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« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2017, 06:55:58 pm »

I don't see Gus coming here.  We do not have the talent that he has at Auburn and it would take too long to rebuild.

It would buy him at least 4-6 more years making $4m+. His wife would be closer to family. No one would be trying to run him off for losing to Bama and UGA.
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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2017, 06:59:17 pm »

I've said that for years, now I'm not as sure as I was a week ago.

I just threw up, a little, in my mouth....
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« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2017, 07:00:32 pm »

I’d take Gus in a heartbeat.  Should have been the hire instead of Bert anyway.


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« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2017, 07:07:53 pm »

Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.

Mike...I think my Friday night has been ruined.  : (
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« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2017, 07:10:47 pm »

The good thing is that we are looking at a change.    After this mess of a season I'd take anyone as an improvement.     But the names being tossed around are all great coaches.   I'm happy.    Things are looking up. 
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« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2017, 07:15:12 pm »

Nope don't want Gus.  He can actually win.  Just not our profile.  Lol...what a crowd.
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« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2017, 07:20:25 pm »

There’s no scenario where Gus leaves Auburn to come here, but if he’s fired it may be mentioned. If he wins against Auburn or Alabama t

Be kind of hard for Gus to beat Auburn.
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« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2017, 07:26:11 pm »

Don't be so sure about Gus. He has more support than you apparently realize. And yes, I know a lot of the $$$$.
Well, he has been a HC for more then two years and has coached in the SEC. Much better credentials then a C-USA coach who has only been HC for 2 years. I personally don't want Gus but we could do much worse. I don't think he'll be able to repeat what what he did at Auburn but he'll have some good years before he is ran out of Arkansas.
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