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Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« on: November 11, 2017, 11:01:26 pm »

Other than just a desire to come "back home," it doesn't seem to be the best career move for him.  Face it.  Isn't Auburn a more prestigious job, career wise?
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2017, 11:08:07 pm »

Gus has had no trouble at all using his Arkansas ties to recruit directly against us so I don't think Gus cares that much about Arkansas. If he wanted the job it would be because he knows his days at Auburn are numbered. 
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2017, 11:11:51 pm »

It's home. 

Apparently during a recent trip back here Kristi has told folks they miss Arkansas as well as family and friends.  it really isn't that complicated. 

Whether that means anything as far as the Arkansas job remains to be determined,  but seems pretty obvious there are those that want Gus.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2017, 11:20:28 pm »

I believe he is a far better coach than BB, and I guess he's pretty much proved it. However, even with family ties to Arkansas, I can't imagine that he would want to come back and coach at the University of Arkansas.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2017, 11:22:54 pm »

I believe he is a far better coach than BB, and I guess he's pretty much proved it. However, even with family ties to Arkansas, I can't imagine that he would want to come back and coach at the University of Arkansas.

Pretty much anyone is better than CBB.  That doesnít bolster the argument for Gus.  Heck, if thatís the qualifier, give me a three year contract and let's see what I can do.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 12:38:30 am »

Other than just a desire to come "back home," it doesn't seem to be the best career move for him.  Face it.  Isn't Auburn a more prestigious job, career wise?

The only way Gus would ever come back to Arkansas is if he got fired from Auburn, and then he would be looking at wanting a job.  But why come to Arkansas after getting fired when he could take it easy like most coaches do and go get hired on as a game day analyst?  It would be easy work and easy money.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 12:44:43 am »

We put up with way more losing than AU. Besides just wanting to come home, and bringing success to Arkansas, he would have way more job security here. Lots of folks at AU wanted him fired earlier this year. We wouldn't even be thinking about it if he had done here what he has done there.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2017, 12:45:48 am »

I suspect Gus may be like some of our players from out of state wanting to beat the state school and showing them what they missed. If I were Gus Iíd want to beat Arkansas every year to prove to those people wrong in the state who say Iím nothing but a high school coach.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2017, 12:48:06 am »

Gus just beat the #1 team in the country today.

He isnít getting fired.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2017, 12:50:25 am »

Gus just beat the #1 team in the country today.

He isnít getting fired.

Nope but he may just leave.

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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2017, 12:53:02 am »

We would be lucky to have him, but I think it is just a pipe dream at this point.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2017, 12:53:28 am »

Nope but he may just leave.

PRJ

So you are hearing the same thing I am when it comes to missing family and friends?
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2017, 12:55:06 am »

So you are hearing the same thing I am when it comes to missing family and friends?

Yep...to a tee.

I have heard the job is his if he wants it.

I am sure he was offered the gig when he was up here when we played Auburn.

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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2017, 01:18:21 am »

Yep...to a tee.

I have heard the job is his if he wants it.

I am sure he was offered the gig when he was up here when we played Auburn.

PRJ

I can't go that far on the job offer. but it wouldn't surprise me.  Specifically, their desire to come back was not linked "as related to a job".  But at the time there wasn't (or is) a job to be had.  No question she wants to come back and is telling folks Gus feels the same way.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2017, 01:22:22 am »

I can't go that far on the job offer. but it wouldn't surprise me.  Specifically, their desire to come back was not linked "as related to a job".  But at the time there wasn't (or is) a job to be had.  No question she wants to come back and is telling folks Gus feels the same way.

I preface this by saying I am sure in my mind he got offered. I wasn't told that. I was told he was interviewed in some fashion and I didn't want to believe it.

I was told today that the job is his if he wants it. And yes, his wife has told quite a few people that she wants back in Arkansas.

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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2017, 01:28:56 am »

Despite what most posters think, there are different things to consider other than the recruiting base.

Unless the coach is named Saban they all use up their shelf life eventually at one place.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 01:32:20 am »

I'm like you.  I'd rather take a chance on Norvell than bring Gus back.  But at this point I am just ready for a change and will give whom ever is hired a chance before I pass judgement.  Watching the #1 team in the nation get beat like a yard dog was impressive.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2017, 01:35:01 am »

I'm like you.  I'd rather take a chance on Norvell than bring Gus back.  But at this point I am just ready for a change and will give whom ever is hired a chance before I pass judgement.  Watching the #1 team in the nation get beat like a yard dog was impressive.

It was....I just wish we would have tried this experiment when we let Petrino go. Maybe we would be better off...and if not, we are talking about Norvell today.

I think Norvell is something special...I really do.

PRJ
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2017, 01:55:21 am »

I wouldnt. if I were him I would say stick.it right up your ass you stupid ass no sense having people. 

call Houston nutt.  call Janna The Bert
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2017, 05:33:44 am »

I think that win last night pretty cinches it that we wonít get him.  It took a lot of heat off of his seat, and showed s lot of people that he is an elite coach.  Auburn will throw money at him to keep him from being stolen by another SEC school.  I just donít see it happening.

And then there is the money.  We would probably have to pay him at least $6 million a year to get him to come and give him a ridiculous buyout.  And letís not even get into having to pay his buyout at Auburn.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2017, 05:38:03 am »

I hope you all have your knee-highs  on because it is getting deep in here.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2017, 05:53:09 am »

He has the 2nd best record in the SEC since arriving at Auburn and he is on the hot seat each week.  sometimes you need to leave before the lynch party arrives. 
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2017, 06:13:32 am »

We put up with way more losing than AU. Besides just wanting to come home, and bringing success to Arkansas, he would have way more job security here. Lots of folks at AU wanted him fired earlier this year. We wouldn't even be thinking about it if he had done here what he has done there.

This is the correct answer.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2017, 06:14:41 am »

I think that win last night pretty cinches it that we wonít get him.  It took a lot of heat off of his seat, and showed s lot of people that he is an elite coach.  Auburn will throw money at him to keep him from being stolen by another SEC school.  I just donít see it happening.

And then there is the money.  We would probably have to pay him at least $6 million a year to get hiimnand give him a ridiculous buyout.  And letís not even get into having to pay his buyout at Auburn.

Agreed. Heís not going anywhere after beating the #1 team in the country.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2017, 06:31:10 am »

It was....I just wish we would have tried this experiment when we let Petrino go. Maybe we would be better off...and if not, we are talking about Norvell today.

I think Norvell is something special...I really do.

PRJ



Totally agree. He is the Moses or Joshua, to lead us back to the promised land. Gus would be expensive at this point. Exorbantly so.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2017, 06:57:57 am »

I'm not
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2017, 07:25:12 am »

I think every coach dreams of returning to their home and taking over the flagship in the state. As nuts as our fanbase can be, it doesn't hold a candle to Alabama schools. For christ's sake....they were talking about firing him two weeks ago.

Arkansas blood runs deep and losing his AD, very big thing for these high stakes coaching jobs.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2017, 07:28:57 am »

I think every coach dreams of returning to their home and taking over the flagship in the state. As nuts as our fanbase can be, it doesn't hold a candle to Alabama schools. For christ's sake....they were talking about firing him two weeks ago.

Arkansas blood runs deep and losing his AD, very big thing for these high stakes coaching jobs.

He didnít lose his AD, he was instrumental in pushing him out.  They were not on speaking terms.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2017, 07:31:48 am »

It was....I just wish we would have tried this experiment when we let Petrino go. Maybe we would be better off...and if not, we are talking about Norvell today.

I think Norvell is something special...I really do.

PRJ
I know what you mean the more I see and learn it seems like a no brainer....but seems like most fans want a name over a chance to be something that could be amazing! In the end it'll be what it'll be. Go Hogs!
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2017, 07:34:50 am »

Agreed. He’s not going anywhere after beating the #1 team in the country.

I agree. Also his hiring would be too controversial and too divisive among the Hog faithful.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2017, 07:36:02 am »

I think every coach dreams of returning to their home and taking over the flagship in the state. As nuts as our fanbase can be, it doesn't hold a candle to Alabama schools. For christ's sake....they were talking about firing him two weeks ago.

Arkansas blood runs deep and losing his AD, very big thing for these high stakes coaching jobs.

First, Gus and his AD didn't/don't get along, Jacobs leaving would be a reason to stay, especially now that he has some bargaining chips with that win to have a little say in who it will be. Second, I don't believe all this "we miss home" and "Arkansas blood runs deeps" talk, talk is all it is. I suspect his name will get mentioned after we have an opening and his agent will parlay that into a new contract at Auburn, nothing more. It always about the money, it always has been.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2017, 07:36:33 am »

Agreed. Heís not going anywhere after beating the #1 team in the country.


Just playing devils advocate


But didn't Houston leave here after beating the number one team in the country?
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2017, 07:37:25 am »

I've read many places and heard Mike Irwin on Bo's show talk about people telling him that they thought we could get Gus.  I've heard many people say this is Gus' dream job.  Well, assuming BB is gone then we are going to find out if this really is his dream job, because Auburn won't be firing him this year. 

Is Arkansas his dream job or a fall back position?
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2017, 07:37:30 am »

He didn’t lose his AD, he was instrumuinnlushing him out.  They were not on speaking terms.

True. The former AD (Jacobs) despised Gus and wanted him gone, that's why he no longer has a job there.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2017, 07:40:18 am »

True. The former AD (Jacobs) despised Gus and wanted him gone, that's why he no longer has a job there.


Incorrect as usual

Has more to do with the FBI basketball thing and some other scandals going on. Little to do with football actually.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2017, 07:45:42 am »

Plus, Auburn is likely to be even better over the next few years.  They are loaded and he has a sophomore QB.  Is going to walk away from a potential NC team to come and rebuild Bertís mess?
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2017, 08:08:51 am »


Incorrect as usual

Has more to do with the FBI basketball thing and some other scandals going on. Little to do with football actually.

The FBI basketball thing was part of it but it was mostly because Gus couldn't stand him and wanted him gone.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2017, 08:36:19 am »

The FBI basketball thing was part of it but it was mostly because Gus couldn't stand him and wanted him gone.


No. It wasn't.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2017, 09:20:52 am »

The FBI basketball thing was part of it but it was mostly because Gus couldn't stand him and wanted him gone.

You keep pounding don't ya?

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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2017, 09:30:09 am »

The FBI basketball thing was part of it but it was mostly because Gus couldn't stand him and wanted him gone.
oh. So he stepped down right after the fbi thing broke and while fans were calling for Gusí head but itís because Gus doesnít like him? lol. It didnít have to do with hiring a known cheater in Pearl then seeing it come home to roost already? Give me a break. Some of you lose your damn mind when you discusss GM.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2017, 09:33:41 am »

Gus just beat the #1 team in the country today.

He isnít getting fired.
You NEVER know with Auburn!  One year removed from the national championship they fired Chizuk!
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2017, 09:53:53 am »

The only thing that could possibly derail the Gus to Arkansas talk is if it becomes public. If Finebaum and ESPN and the like get word of it and start asking Gus about it at every turn, he'll either have to lie or stay at Auburn.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2017, 10:04:32 am »

I didn't much care for the reverse gadget-play Gus called for a 62-yard TD late in the 3rd quarter when it was 31-6...but that is just me.  I'm guessing a lot of other fans didn't, either.  You sure don't see Saban doing that crap when they are up big late.  They just run it down your throat at the end.   

Gus would be the most divisive hire possible.  You have the Gus/Springdale mafia who worship him in a cult-like manner that tend to ruin it for everyone else.  Many from LR/South/East Arkansas would not be thrilled with the hire, but would begrudgingly support.  Once the losses start, it would get ugly quickly.  Then it's the Mafia vs. everyone else. 

I think a Norvell hire would keep the factions from forming.  I think Norvell would kill it here.  If not Norvell, I'd rather have Les Miles than Gus.  At least Miles has won it all as a HC and has a much better record, overall. 
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2017, 10:08:20 am »

I didn't much care for the reverse gadget-play Gus called for a 62-yard TD late in the 3rd quarter when it was 31-6...but that is just me.  I'm guessing a lot of other fans didn't, either.  You sure don't see Saban doing that crap when they are up big late.  They just run it down your throat at the end.   

Gus would be the most divisive hire possible.  You have the Gus/Springdale mafia who worship him in a cult-like manner that tend to ruin it for everyone else.  Many from LR/South/East Arkansas would not be thrilled with the hire, but would begrudgingly support.  Once the losses start, it would get ugly quickly.  Then it's the Mafia vs. everyone else. 

I think a Norvell hire would keep the factions from forming.  I think Norvell would kill it here.  If not Norvell, I'd rather have Les Miles than Gus.  At least Miles has won it all as a HC and has a much better record, overall.
I completely agree with everything you said except I can do without Gus and Led if it came down to that I rather go coordinator route. Les would in my opinion be Bert all over again.
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Re: Why are some convinced Gus would come back?
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2017, 10:40:25 am »

You NEVER know with Auburn!  One year removed from the national championship they fired Chizuk!

They all assumed it was more Gus and less Gene when they won the NC. When they saw the success Gus was having at A state they knew they had their guy. No way they fire him this year after yesterday. Had he lost to bama and Georgia and had another 8 win season it was a real possibility.  Now, it's just not going to happen.  After watching yesterday, you have to think auburn is the favorite to win the sec as bama will be playing them at auburn. No way they fire him.
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