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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #50 on: November 09, 2017, 10:26:19 am »

If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

It's been pretty dark from my perspective for a few years now.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #51 on: November 09, 2017, 10:26:26 am »

Well, this is Scott Varady's version to Brantley.

"The Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project is on schedule, and no renovations to the existing suites are planned until after the end of the 2017 football season as has been communicated to suite holders. Those renovations were always scheduled to begin after the conclusion of the 2017 home football schedule and nothing has changed.

As I am sure you have heard, we are planning to share information with existing suite holders regarding the specific renovations and upgrades for each suite. As soon as we receive the final construction and other applicable information, we will communicate with the suite holders. We hope to receive that information soon.

As for the overall Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium renovation and expansion project, I can share the following information with you.

We have gift agreements for all 32 suites in the North End Zone.

In total, all 38 new suites in the project have gift commitments.

Out of 70 new Loge Boxes in the North End Zone, we have gift commitments for 63 out of 70 Loge Boxes — thus leaving seven (7) available Loge Boxes at this time.

With credit to our generous Razorback Foundation members and fans, we have raised $41.223 million towards the renovation and expansion project to date. Given that, we have the resources to assist the Athletic Department in meeting all financial obligations towards the project. "

What's the date on this? That's the number fudging mentioned. It's actually more like 7 suites are committed.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #52 on: November 09, 2017, 10:26:38 am »

Because your carpet baggin' buddy is about to get the axe.

Did I do that right?

I guess? It's crazy to me that I have to hate everyone personally and assume the worst about them as humans in order to be a Hog fan I guess.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #53 on: November 09, 2017, 10:27:03 am »

Hmm.....$1500-$4300/yr vs $85-$850, seems like a good trade to me.

I think your boy is about to get his wings clipped or plum shot off
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #54 on: November 09, 2017, 10:27:24 am »

so you're the same guy since there's such limited education on the board.
Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #55 on: November 09, 2017, 10:28:18 am »

I guess? It's crazy to me that I have to hate everyone personally and assume the worst about them as humans in order to be a Hog fan I guess.

Football.  Politics.  Doesn't matter.  If you disagree with someone, you have to hate them.  Hate everything about them.  Hate everyone that doesn't hate them.  Oppose everything they say or do.  Hate. Hate. Hate.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #56 on: November 09, 2017, 10:28:36 am »

If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

This is pure fantasy, straight drama queen stuff.  No one will care, and anyone who bothers to even look into it will say, "Arkansas has gone a miserable 13-32 in SEC play since 2011, it's once dominant men's basketball team has won two NCAA tournament games during Long's ten years on the job, and the crowd at last Saturday's homecoming game was embarrassingly small."
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #57 on: November 09, 2017, 10:28:49 am »


what's the worst thing about prison, prison Mike?

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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #58 on: November 09, 2017, 10:30:51 am »

 Trey Schaap‏ @trey1037TheBuzz 6m6 minutes ago

The board has taken a break to grab refreshments and are returning to executive session. Jeff Long and Chancellor Steinmetz have been asked to join the @UofA_System Board in ES.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2017, 10:31:10 am »

Hogsanity and razorbackers are sweating bullets!

I don't care for this kind of crap. 
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #60 on: November 09, 2017, 10:32:50 am »

Because your carpet baggin' buddy is about to get the axe.

Did I do that right? 

We keep having some of these folks attacking others for no reason I'm gonna show them an axe. 
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #61 on: November 09, 2017, 10:33:02 am »



Well I'll say based on the cult on the board today.  The #uncommon crowd is going to go out chanting.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #62 on: November 09, 2017, 10:33:45 am »

As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work. 
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #63 on: November 09, 2017, 10:33:47 am »

Trey Schaap‏ @trey1037TheBuzz 6m6 minutes ago

The board has taken a break to grab refreshments and are returning to executive session. Jeff Long and Chancellor Steinmetz have been asked to join the @UofA_System Board in ES.
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Cut out the breaks and let’s get down to business.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #64 on: November 09, 2017, 10:33:52 am »

OP was wrong. Long just went back. According to twitter.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #65 on: November 09, 2017, 10:35:01 am »

As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work. 

So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2017, 10:35:25 am »

I was going to ask someone to define "executive session"…but that will probably be explained as the day goes on.

Generally, an executive session is a private part of a public meeting or meeting of a public body. It can be used to discuss things like strategies or personnel matters without a public record being generated -- such as media coverage, transcripts, minutes, etc....

In this case, if the board recommends some action that requires a vote, the board will reconvene for a public vote.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2017, 10:35:50 am »

Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.


Why do you keep bringing up Frank?  He hasn't been AD for over 10 years.  This isn't about him. 

If you hadn't joined 2 months ago (interesting timing, BTW) you would know that many of the folks wanting a change now wanted a change then.  Heck, I've posted many times over the years on this board that he should have retired back in the early to mid 90's.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2017, 10:36:49 am »

So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.

I think he is just saying the BOT is not directly going to fire BB or JL as that is not normally their job.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2017, 10:37:20 am »


Why do you keep bringing up Frank?  He hasn't been AD for over 10 years.  This isn't about him. 

If you hadn't joined 2 months ago (interesting timing, BTW) you would know that many of the folks wanting a change now wanted a change then.  Heck, I've posted many times over the years on this board that he should have retired back in the early to mid 90's.
Super interesting.

I guess joining a board automatically makes you a mole?
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2017, 10:38:09 am »

So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.
Yes
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2017, 10:38:17 am »

Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.

Really?  Frank oversaw a worse stretch as AD?  Because I could have sworn the men's basketball team was in the Final Four three times during that time, with one national championship and one other championship game appearance.  I realize that is no match for opening round wins over Wofford and Seton Hall...
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2017, 10:39:54 am »

Really?  Frank oversaw a worse stretch as AD?  Because I could have sworn the men's basketball team was in the Final Four three times during that time, with one national championship and one other championship game appearance.  I realize that is no match for opening round wins over Wofford and Seton Hall...
In football?

Yes. In question.

This is all about football.

Educate yourself.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2017, 10:40:31 am »

Super interesting.

I guess joining a board automatically makes you a mole?

It is just odd on a massage board that has been around for 15+ years, to see so many "new" members show up all around the same time. Just like i find it odd so many posters created accounts in 2006 or 2010, posted like 3 times, have not posted in years and just now decide is a good time to start posting. That is not how most people that take the time to join message boards behave. They may not post as often as some, but they usually do not go more than a few days, much less weeks months or years without posting.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #74 on: November 09, 2017, 10:40:39 am »

Super interesting.

I guess joining a board automatically makes you a mole?

Answer the question
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2017, 10:42:02 am »

It is just odd on a massage board that has been around for 15+ years, to see so many "new" members show up all around the same time. Just like i find it odd so many posters created accounts in 2006 or 2010, posted like 3 times, have not posted in years and just now decide is a good time to start posting. That is not how most people that take the time to join message boards behave. They may not post as often as some, but they usually do not go more than a few days, much less weeks months or years without posting.
Thank you for the education on How message boards work.

I took notes and I am ready for the exam!
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #76 on: November 09, 2017, 10:42:33 am »

I think your boy is about to get his wings clipped or plum shot off

My boys are a financial analyst in Chicago and a sophomore in high school, lol.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #77 on: November 09, 2017, 10:42:54 am »

Answer the question
So guilty.

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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #78 on: November 09, 2017, 10:42:55 am »

In football?

Yes. In question.

This is all about football.

Educate yourself.

It's all about football?  If that is the case I'm not sure why Long bothered to show up.  13-32 in SEC play over the last six years is 13th in a 14 team conference.  Who tries to justify his $1 million per year salary with "credentials" like that?
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« Reply #79 on: November 09, 2017, 10:43:50 am »

My boys are a financial analyst in Chicago and a sophomore in high school, lol.

Lol. Fair enough
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #80 on: November 09, 2017, 10:44:32 am »

What's the date on this? That's the number fudging mentioned. It's actually more like 7 suites are committed.

Link?
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #81 on: November 09, 2017, 10:44:59 am »

So what your saying is theres no chance JL is in trouble and BB will be coach next year.
Not saying that at all.  Just saying that for those who think JL will walk out of there without a job will probably be disappointed.  He may very well lose his job but more than likely won't be announced or done today.  Same goes with CBB, he may lose his job but it will be announced by JL not the BOT.  Only time that you see the Chancellor or BOT involved in a firing of a coach is usually do to a non performance based firing (Investigations, scandals, etc) in which the school needs public relations.  (See Penn State, Baylor)   
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« Reply #82 on: November 09, 2017, 10:45:04 am »

I think he is just saying the BOT is not directly going to fire BB or JL as that is not normally their job.

They can however, strongly recommend to the Chancellor that he fire Long.

They can also terminate the Chancellor if he refuses to comply.

I don't see the latter of the 2 happening.
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« Reply #83 on: November 09, 2017, 10:45:38 am »

It's all about football?  If that is the case I'm not sure why Long bothered to show up.  13-32 in SEC play over the last six years is 13th in a 14 team conference.  Who tries to justify his $1 million per year salary with "credentials" like that?

Even though I know this is wasted on you, because your world begins and ends with guhd ole suhthun fuhbahl, but Longs salary is based on a lot more than football. He is the athletic director not the football director.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #84 on: November 09, 2017, 10:46:16 am »

They can however, strongly recommend to the Chancellor that he fire Long.

They can also terminate the Chancellor if he refuses to comply.

I don't see the latter of the 2 happening.
Yes, the BOT will fire the Chancellor after they struggled to find one last time.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #85 on: November 09, 2017, 10:46:17 am »



So for the #uncommon crowd are you here to prop up just JL or JL and BB?
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #86 on: November 09, 2017, 10:47:06 am »

Not saying that at all.  Just saying that for those who think JL will walk out of there without a job will probably be disappointed.  He may very well lose his job but more than likely won't be announced or done today.  Same goes with CBB, he may lose his job but it will be announced by JL not the BOT.  Only time that you see the Chancellor or BOT involved in a firing of a coach is usually do to a non performance based firing (Investigations, scandals, etc) in which the school needs public relations.  (See Penn State, Baylor)   

I would submit that a very public summoning for explanations regarding a major project and its expenditures could be reason to believe that there might be some non performance issues. 
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« Reply #87 on: November 09, 2017, 10:47:58 am »

It is just odd on a massage board that has been around for 15+ years, to see so many "new" members show up all around the same time. Just like i find it odd so many posters created accounts in 2006 or 2010, posted like 3 times, have not posted in years and just now decide is a good time to start posting. That is not how most people that take the time to join message boards behave. They may not post as often as some, but they usually do not go more than a few days, much less weeks months or years without posting.

IP address for all these new accounts is in Russia iyam
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« Reply #88 on: November 09, 2017, 10:48:01 am »

Yes, the BOT will fire the Chancellor after they struggled to find one last time.

Read it again. I said they most likely WOULDN'T terminate the Chancellor.
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« Reply #89 on: November 09, 2017, 10:48:08 am »

Even though I know this is wasted on you, because your world begins and ends with guhd ole suhthun fuhbahl, but Longs salary is based on a lot more than football. He is the athletic director not the football director.

Why don't you read the post I was responding to and quoted in my own.  I'm not the one who originally said it is all about football, Jeff's wife did.
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« Reply #90 on: November 09, 2017, 10:49:09 am »

Actually, from 1990-1997, the Almighty Frank oversaw the historic rate you refer.  Carry on.

5 of the 8 seasons with a losing record.

You mean, the period of time where our program left the University of Texas Conference...err...SWC and has the entire State, previously our most fertile recruiting ground turn against us?  You mean that period of time where, after losing our fertile recruiting ground we went from playing two tough games a year to playing at least four to six tough games a year?
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« Reply #91 on: November 09, 2017, 10:49:09 am »

If Long is fired or contract not renewed or whatever...if Long is out...whether right or wrong...whether you agree or disagree with decision...the national media is going to rake UA over the coals like never before.  Whether you think this is a good decision or bad, this will be a dark dark day for UA if Long is let go.

I agree.
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« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2017, 10:50:27 am »

Did you read my post about Frank overseeing a worse stretch from 1990-1997?

Educate yourself.
At least during that stretch there was a Western Divison championship and an SECCG appearance. That's why what we are going through now is worse.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #93 on: November 09, 2017, 10:50:41 am »

As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work. 

Much of what you say is definitely true - but why would the board go into executive session just to get an update on the stadium expansion? I thought executive sessions were only allowed for "personnel" issues / discussion.
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2017, 10:50:57 am »

You mean, the period of time where our program left the University of Texas Conference...err...SWC and has the entire State, previously our most fertile recruiting ground turn against us?  You mean that period of time where, after losing our fertile recruiting ground we went from playing two tough games a year to playing at least four to six tough games a year?
Spin zone.
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« Reply #95 on: November 09, 2017, 10:51:41 am »

As a member of an education board, here is what is taught.  1.) You hire superintendents. 2.) You set policy. 

All other hiring and firing is done by hired Superintendent and or principals.  If you don't trust those people to do their jobs then maybe you need to look at yourself as a board and ask why did we hire this person. 

I assume this is much the same. BOT hires the Chancellor.  He is responsible for the hires underneath him.  I am sure that JL is just there to give an update on the expansion and nothing else will come from that.  There may be some comments to him about how things need to improve in which case the response should be I will work on those things.  Any firing or announced changes will come from JL or the Chancellor himself.  Some of you people spouting off on here just don't understand how these things work.

And what if BOT fires said chancellor??

And what if they invoke "vested interest"??
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Re: JL in executive session now
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Re: JL in executive session now
« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2017, 10:51:56 am »

Read it again. I said they most likely WOULDN'T terminate the Chancellor.
So when he doesn't fire Jeff, what do they do??
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« Reply #99 on: November 09, 2017, 10:53:01 am »

Spin zone.

Actually he nailed it. Broyles did screw up hiring Crowe. That was dumb
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