Hogville Info
• 9,372,920 Posts
• 385,166 Topics
• 21,574 Hogvillians
THE RULES (Read 'em!)
Quick Links
Pick'Ems:Football      Basketball      Baseball
Sister Sites:Gridiron HistoryFearless Friday
Listen NOW:Game ON 103.3 
  
Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA  (Read 1306 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939

One less and we'd be tied for dead last with ... Coastal Carolina.   Hogs are 98th in Defensive Effeciency, 94th in Rushing Defense, etc. etc.

We don't have the absolute worst Defense in the NCAA, but its getting really close.

Why has Paul Rhoades not been fired for gross incompetence?
Logged

tusked

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 10,961
  • Clapton is god....but SRV was the big bang!
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2017, 10:19:10 am »



Look at what Grantham has done for MSU and that's what a successful DC hire looks like.
Logged

Sponsored Ad



Hogville encourages you to do business with the following...

cdhogfan

  • Senior
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,099
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2017, 10:21:33 am »

I hate the bend don't break style of defense we play.  Especially considering we are bending and breaking.
Logged

Boarcephus

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 11,462
  • Houston, hell no we ain't forgettin!!
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2017, 10:21:50 am »

Doesn't make any difference who the DC is, Bielema has his handprints all over it and won't allow them to do what they want to do.  Bielema is coaching scared on defense and that's not good for any football team. 
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2017, 10:21:54 am »


Look at what Grantham has done for MSU and that's what a successful DC hire looks like.

Look at what Rhoades has done for Arkansas and that's what a PLANE CRASH looks like.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2017, 10:22:00 am »

One less and we'd be tied for dead last with ... Coastal Carolina.   Hogs are 98th in Defensive Effeciency, 94th in Rushing Defense, etc. etc.

We don't have the absolute worst Defense in the NCAA, but its getting really close.

Why has Paul Rhoades not been fired for gross incompetence?

I wonder how much of this has to do with lack of talent in our front 7 or just lack of blitzes? I haven't dug into the numbers at all, but just from watching this team this year it seems like we bring very little pressure. 

I was excited about the switch to the 3-4 because I thought it would give us the opportunity to bring pressure from a bunch of different areas, when in reality PR just refuses to blitz any LBs at all.  We've moved to a 3 man rush
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2017, 10:22:49 am »

I hate the bend don't break style of defense we play.  Especially considering we are bending and breaking.

This.
Logged

hogsanity

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 43,314
  • Is there a problem here?
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2017, 10:23:18 am »

I wonder how much of this has to do with lack of talent in our front 7 or just lack of blitzes? I haven't dug into the numbers at all, but just from watching this team this year it seems like we bring very little pressure. 

I was excited about the switch to the 3-4 because I thought it would give us the opportunity to bring pressure from a bunch of different areas, when in reality PR just refuses to blitz any LBs at all.  We've moved to a 3 man rush

I think the lack of talent is actually in the back 8.
Logged

theFlyingHog

  • All-American Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 4,771
  • The hottie comes back when CMN is head Hog!
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2017, 10:24:15 am »

We're way too conservative in all facets of the game. Especially being 4-5 right now. Might as well let it all hang out and see what the horses can do.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2017, 10:25:32 am »

I think the lack of talent is actually in the back 8.

But do you think it's a talent issue or just an issue of the coaches not putting the backers in a position to succeed? Or is our secondary so bad that opposing QBs can get  the ball out quickly before our rushers can get there?

Combination of everything?
Logged

Kevin

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 20,767
  • Trust in the Lord with all your heart
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2017, 10:25:50 am »

scared to get beat, will get you beat.

I was really hoping this 3-4 scheme was going to lead to more people coming on blitzes
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2017, 10:26:28 am »

I wonder how much of this has to do with lack of talent in our front 7 or just lack of blitzes? I haven't dug into the numbers at all, but just from watching this team this year it seems like we bring very little pressure. 

I was excited about the switch to the 3-4 because I thought it would give us the opportunity to bring pressure from a bunch of different areas, when in reality PR just refuses to blitz any LBs at all.  We've moved to a 3 man rush

We average 98th in all statistics.   Special Teams, Offense, and Defense.   Pretty clear its a coaching problem.   We can't even coach an All-American KICKER. 

This is the worst coaching staff in history.
Logged

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2,057
  • Hogville Executive Consulting LLC
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2017, 10:26:34 am »

Last season the linebackers were the weakest part of our weak as a whole defense. How do the coaches "remedy" that? By switching to a defensive scheme that alienates our defensive linemen, forces the most inexperienced to make most of the plays in run defense, and spread our entire defense out. This is a permanent prevent defense
Logged

hogsanity

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 43,314
  • Is there a problem here?
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2017, 10:27:02 am »

But do you think it's a talent issue or just an issue of the coaches not putting the backers in a position to succeed? Or is our secondary so bad that opposing QBs can get  the ball out quickly before our rushers can get there?

Combination of everything?

Probably some of each, but they are undersized and slow when compared to most SEC lb's and safeties.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2017, 10:27:16 am »

scared to get beat, will get you beat.

I was really hoping this 3-4 scheme was going to lead to more people coming on blitzes

I was hoping the same.  Isn't that what these coaches and the media told us every day in the offseason?
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2017, 10:27:22 am »

But do you think it's a talent issue or just an issue of the coaches not putting the backers in a position to succeed? Or is our secondary so bad that opposing QBs can get  the ball out quickly before our rushers can get there?

Combination of everything?

Worst coaching staff in all of football.
Logged

jkstock04

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 12,363
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2017, 10:27:46 am »

One less and we'd be tied for dead last with ... Coastal Carolina.   Hogs are 98th in Defensive Effeciency, 94th in Rushing Defense, etc. etc.

We don't have the absolute worst Defense in the NCAA, but its getting really close.

Why has Paul Rhoades not been fired for gross incompetence?
Look at our D-line...they don't pass rush. Look at the way Agim lines up in that weak ass 4 point stance 2-3 yards off the ball. It's beyond awful.

Laughable thinking back to the promotion of Paul Rhoads and how everyone thought it was going to be awesome. Just a "genius" move by Bielema. Truth be told there probably weren't many candidates who wanted the job on a sinking ship.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2017, 10:29:21 am »

Worst coaching staff in all of football.

I think it all starts at the top.  I really thought PR would be successful, but I think BB is tying his hands behind his back
Logged

jkstock04

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 12,363
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2017, 10:30:57 am »

I think it all starts at the top.  I really thought PR would be successful, but I think BB is tying his hands behind his back
Wouldn't surprise me. I thought the same about Robb Smith.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2017, 10:31:08 am »

Look at our D-line...they don't pass rush. Look at the way Agim lines up in that weak ass 4 point stance 2-3 yards off the ball. It's beyond awful.

Laughable thinking back to the promotion of Paul Rhoads and how everyone thought it was going to be awesome. Just a "genius" move by Bielema. Truth be told there probably weren't many candidates who wanted the job on a sinking ship.

Agim has been a huge bust so far.  Hopefully it's coaching and not his actual talent.  I'd love to see him be successful under the next coach.
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2017, 10:31:34 am »

Look at our D-line...they don't pass rush. Look at the way Agim lines up in that weak ass 4 point stance 2-3 yards off the ball. It's beyond awful.

Laughable thinking back to the promotion of Paul Rhoads and how everyone thought it was going to be awesome. Just a "genius" move by Bielema. Truth be told there probably weren't many candidates who wanted the job on a sinking ship.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2017, 10:32:54 am »

Wouldn't surprise me. I thought the same about Robb Smith.

Look at what Jim Chaney did at Tennessee and is doing at Georgia.. That's enough proof for me to think that BB holds his assistants back. (And why they all leave him)
Logged

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2,057
  • Hogville Executive Consulting LLC
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2017, 10:33:35 am »

I wonder how much of this has to do with lack of talent in our front 7 or just lack of blitzes? I haven't dug into the numbers at all, but just from watching this team this year it seems like we bring very little pressure. 

I was excited about the switch to the 3-4 because I thought it would give us the opportunity to bring pressure from a bunch of different areas, when in reality PR just refuses to blitz any LBs at all.  We've moved to a 3 man rush
The selling point of the 3-4 (or at least what bielema sold us during the offseason) is having 3 defensive linemen that occupy the opposing offensive line, freeing up linebackers and allow them to make plays. Problem is we don't send any linebackers, we don't blitz. Were asking 3 linemen to handle a 5 man front, get pressure on the qb, AND stop the run? Meanwhile we have linebackers covering receivers much faster than them. Bielema has put the defensive players in a no win situation and I feel sorry for them
Logged

jkstock04

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 12,363
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2017, 10:34:08 am »

Agim has been a huge bust so far.  Hopefully it's coaching and not his actual talent.  I'd love to see him be successful under the next coach.
That stance he gets in isn't even a split stance...I call it a frog stance. It's the worst looking thing I've ever seen a d-lineman do. You aren't going to get a pass rush doing that. Especially 2 yards or so off the ball. lol I just don't get what we are supposed to be doing, especially at his position.
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2017, 10:34:15 am »

Look at what Jim Chaney did at Tennessee and is doing at Georgia.. That's enough proof for me to think that BB holds his assistants back. (And why they all leave him)

No doubt whatsoever.
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2017, 10:35:38 am »

That stance he gets in isn't even a split stance...I call it a frog stance. It's the worst looking thing I've ever seen a d-lineman do. You aren't going to get a pass rush doing that. Especially 2 yards or so off the ball. lol I just don't get what we are supposed to be doing, especially at his position.

If we had an AD who knew anything about football, he would have known to fire BB in the SPRING..
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2017, 10:36:01 am »

The selling point of the 3-4 (or at least what bielema sold us during the offseason) is having 3 defensive linemen that occupy the opposing offensive line, freeing up linebackers and allow them to make plays. Problem is we don't send any linebackers, we don't blitz. Were asking 3 linemen to handle a 5 man front, get pressure on the qb, AND stop the run? Meanwhile we have linebackers covering receivers much faster than them. Bielema has put the defensive players in a no win situation and I feel sorry for them

Exactly. The fans and they players were lied to and the players are being put in a position to fail
Logged

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2,057
  • Hogville Executive Consulting LLC
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2017, 10:36:28 am »

Look at our D-line...they don't pass rush. Look at the way Agim lines up in that weak ass 4 point stance 2-3 yards off the ball. It's beyond awful.

Laughable thinking back to the promotion of Paul Rhoads and how everyone thought it was going to be awesome. Just a "genius" move by Bielema. Truth be told there probably weren't many candidates who wanted the job on a sinking ship.
Pass rushing isn't their assignment in the 3-4. They occupy offensive linemen so that linebackers can make plays. Unfortunately, we don't blitz so those line backers don't come until its too late
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2017, 10:37:33 am »

If we had an AD who knew anything about football, he would have known to fire BB in the SPRING..

JL is a business man --and a good one.  He's done great things for the athletic department from a $ perspective.  He does not know football, though.  We need to move him to a more administrative role and put someone else in charge of the day to day athletic part of the "athletic" department
Logged

Razorfox

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8,760
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2017, 10:37:59 am »

Does anyone want to go back and research what Wisconsin's defenses were like under CBB?  And also what Rhoade's defenses were like in his previous stops?
Logged

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2,057
  • Hogville Executive Consulting LLC
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2017, 10:39:04 am »

Look at our D-line...they don't pass rush. Look at the way Agim lines up in that weak ass 4 point stance 2-3 yards off the ball. It's beyond awful.

Laughable thinking back to the promotion of Paul Rhoads and how everyone thought it was going to be awesome. Just a "genius" move by Bielema. Truth be told there probably weren't many candidates who wanted the job on a sinking ship.
Everyone on the DL does it, backups too. Its clearly something they've been coached to do by the new DL coach or new DC.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 10:39:18 am »

Pass rushing isn't their assignment in the 3-4. They occupy offensive linemen so that linebackers can make plays. Unfortunately, we don't blitz so those line backers don't come until its too late

It's almost like our coaches don't know what they're doing, which is unfathomable considering BB played defense and started as a defensive coach!
Logged

Wardhog85

  • Band Nerd
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 48
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2017, 10:39:36 am »

That stance he gets in isn't even a split stance...I call it a frog stance. It's the worst looking thing I've ever seen a d-lineman do. You aren't going to get a pass rush doing that. Especially 2 yards or so off the ball. lol I just don't get what we are supposed to be doing, especially at his position.

Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed that b.s. It's not just Agim though, it's the entire d-line. Hell, Bijohn Jackson lines up nearly 3 yards off the ball. 90% of the time we aren't even trying to penetrate, we're just standing up and catching blocks.
Logged

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2,057
  • Hogville Executive Consulting LLC
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2017, 10:40:09 am »

JL is a business man --and a good one.  He's done great things for the athletic department from a $ perspective.  He does not know football, though.  We need to move him to a more administrative role and put someone else in charge of the day to day athletic part of the "athletic" department
Tommy Tuberville
Logged

jkstock04

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 12,363
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2017, 10:40:38 am »

Pass rushing isn't their assignment in the 3-4. They occupy offensive linemen so that linebackers can make plays. Unfortunately, we don't blitz so those line backers don't come until its too late
I do understand this logic. Going into the season I was liking what I was hearing about what our scheme was going to be, two key words were fast and aggressive. I think it's the complete opposite. The D line basically just stands there (like you say) and so do the linebackers lol.
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2017, 10:40:48 am »

JL is a business man --and a good one.  He's done great things for the athletic department from a $ perspective.  He does not know football, though.  We need to move him to a more administrative role and put someone else in charge of the day to day athletic part of the "athletic" department

Except he's on the verge of having COMPLETELY empty stadiums.  LMAO.   The reason he will be fired by the end of football season is that he has jeopardized the biggest source of revenue, football.
Logged

DeltaBoy

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 67,349
  • I'm Un-Reconstructed. Sic semper tyrannis
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2017, 10:41:42 am »

Well that new 3-4 D not working too well.
Logged

Atlhogfan1

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 16,984
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2017, 10:42:18 am »

One less and we'd be tied for dead last with ... Coastal Carolina.   Hogs are 98th in Defensive Effeciency, 94th in Rushing Defense, etc. etc.

We don't have the absolute worst Defense in the NCAA, but its getting really close.

Why has Paul Rhoades not been fired for gross incompetence?

Takes time to build a 3-4 especially with our recruiting base.  Must have the OLBs who can pass rush and be strong against the run. 
Logged

Hog-Corleone

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Online Online
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 1,958
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2017, 10:42:22 am »

Hard to get sacks when you play a 3-4 defense, and literally rush 3 every play...
Logged

hogsanity

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 43,314
  • Is there a problem here?
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2017, 10:42:52 am »

Does anyone want to go back and research what Wisconsin's defenses were like under CBB?  And also what Rhoade's defenses were like in his previous stops?

They ranked anywhere from a low of 38th in total defense to a high of 15th in total defense at Wisc from 07-2012. Could not find data for 2006 but I am guessing it was in the 30's.
Logged

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 2,057
  • Hogville Executive Consulting LLC
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2017, 10:42:57 am »


Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed that b.s. It's not just Agim though, it's the entire d-line. Hell, Bijohn Jackson lines up nearly 3 yards off the ball. 90% of the time we aren't even trying to penetrate, we're just standing up and catching blocks.
Exactly. Its that qb contain crap, and it never works for any team that does it. I kind of feel sorry for the guys when people are ragging on them for not getting any pressure on the qb. They are clearly doing exactly what theyre told
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2017, 10:43:02 am »

Worst Offensive and Defensive line I have ever seen.

Haven't looked lately, but no long ago, our O line was dead last in almost every catagory.   Pass protection, Power rushing... dead last.
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Logged

Atlhogfan1

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 16,984
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2017, 10:44:35 am »

Look at our D-line...they don't pass rush. Look at the way Agim lines up in that weak ass 4 point stance 2-3 yards off the ball. It's beyond awful.

Laughable thinking back to the promotion of Paul Rhoads and how everyone thought it was going to be awesome. Just a "genius" move by Bielema. Truth be told there probably weren't many candidates who wanted the job on a sinking ship.

DC at Arkansas is a bad job no matter the head coach's situation. 
Logged

KennyForAD

  • Hogvillian
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1,939
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2017, 10:46:34 am »

DC at Arkansas is a bad job no matter the head coach's situation. 

Then how did Rob Smith have a GREAT defense his first year?
Logged

ModestoHOG63

  • Senior
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 529
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #45 on: November 08, 2017, 10:47:53 am »

The problem starts at the top.  If Bert wanted a aggressive defense with plenty of blitzing then we would have it.  I'm not defending Rhoades but I do believe he is Handcuffed in some ways by his boss. 
Logged

Atlhogfan1

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 16,984
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #46 on: November 08, 2017, 10:48:31 am »

Then how did Rob Smith have a GREAT defense his first year?

He didn't.  We had some good personnel and played a number of teams with poor or injured qbs.  Our defensive success has relied on poor qb play from opponents.   
Logged

BigK_HogHeaven

  • Bench Warmer
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 130
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #47 on: November 08, 2017, 10:49:54 am »

The problem starts at the top.  If Bert wanted a aggressive defense with plenty of blitzing then we would have it.  I'm not defending Rhoades but I do believe he is Handcuffed in some ways by his boss.

I'd really like to know what his defenses at Iowa St looked like, I can't remember.  But you are right.  If Bielema wanted to blitz we'd be blitzing.
Logged

jkstock04

  • Hall of Fame Hogvillian
  • *******
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Posts: 12,363
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2017, 10:50:44 am »

Exactly. Its that qb contain crap, and it never works for any team that does it. I kind of feel sorry for the guys when people are ragging on them for not getting any pressure on the qb. They are clearly doing exactly what theyre told
I do agree with you...a lot of it is they are just doing what they are told to do. Gotta be frustrating.
Logged

Atlhogfan1

  • Gold Hogvillian
  • *********
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 16,984
  • Surfing the web at Hogville.net
Re: Hogs' defense has 12 sacks for the season, tied for second least in NCAA
« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2017, 10:51:39 am »

I'd really like to know what his defenses at Iowa St looked like, I can't remember.  But you are right.  If Bielema wanted to blitz we'd be blitzing.

Rhoads switched to the 3-4 his last season to try and defend B12 spread offenses better.  Similar to why we switched.  It failed there early. It isn't a one season switch most places. 
Logged
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
 

KARK
KWNA
Fox 16 Arkansas