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Mike Leach
« on: November 07, 2017, 11:10:52 am »

Success at two traditionally terrible programs. Slings that ball all over the field. I want to learn about pirates and vikings via pressers. Home run hire and no way hes in love with Pullman Washington.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2017, 12:31:20 pm »

But if he locks a son or grandson of a booster in a broom closet...
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2017, 12:42:56 pm »

Everybody likes it when he's winning, but MMQB would melt the first time he talked about aliens or bigfoot after a loss.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2017, 01:04:45 pm »

I just don't think the Air Raid offense will work here in the SEC, and we would certainly miss not having good running backs. Do you honestly see any good running backs wanting to play in that system?
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2017, 01:15:40 pm »

I just don't think the Air Raid offense will work here in the SEC, and we would certainly miss not having good running backs. Do you honestly see any good running backs wanting to play in that system?

Please tell me you are kidding
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2017, 01:23:09 pm »

I just don't think the Air Raid offense will work here in the SEC, and we would certainly miss not having good running backs. Do you honestly see any good running backs wanting to play in that system?

Why would the Air Raid not work in the SEC?Leach has used 2* kids and out schemed teams with better athletes his entire career. We have highly recruited running backs the last 5 years and 11 SEC wins.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2017, 01:23:41 pm »

Everybody likes it when he's winning, but MMQB would melt the first time he talked about aliens or bigfoot after a loss.

That would be worth the 4 years of his contract on its own.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2017, 01:28:45 pm »

Everybody likes it when he's winning, but MMQB would melt the first time he talked about aliens or bigfoot after a loss.

Aliens or Bigfoot?  What???
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2017, 01:41:38 pm »

Aliens or Bigfoot?  What???

Leach is somewhat eccentric. Talks alot about things like aliens and bigfoot among other things.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2017, 02:01:07 pm »

Aliens or Bigfoot?  What???

Aliens, bigfoot, pirates, vikings, graveyards, and the list goes on. His pressers are legendary.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2017, 02:07:52 pm »

He would win close to the level of Petrino, while he is not on BP's level of assholeness he is a bit odd.  I would find him entertaining, others on Hogville would as well, while some would take him too literally and not get it.  He is a very good coach.  He has never taken over teams that were championship level like a tOSU, USC, Georgia, but he has taken teams steeped in mediocrity and worse and schemed his way to consistent respectability.  Look at TxTech before and after he arrived, look at WSU before he got there.  Not my top choice but would be excited to see what he could do here.  TxTech and WSU have nowhere near the fan bases, resources, or tradition of Arkansas.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2017, 02:20:05 pm »

It's crazy how people will suggest guys like Leach but turn their nose up at people who have actually accomplished something in this league.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2017, 02:20:48 pm »

Why would the Air Raid not work in the SEC?Leach has used 2* kids and out schemed teams with better athletes his entire career. We have highly recruited running backs the last 5 years and 11 SEC wins.


Because the SEC is an entirely different league than everyone else. Defense is a big deal in the SEC.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2017, 02:20:59 pm »

Where is pig in a pokey?
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2017, 02:25:40 pm »

Where is pig in a pokey?

The guy who swore Gruden was coming when they hired Bielema?
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2017, 03:03:52 pm »



Because the SEC is an entirely different league than everyone else. Defense is a big deal in the SEC.

What does running the air raid have to do with defense? Also didnt you get the memo, we dont play defense anyways. :)
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2017, 03:07:57 pm »

We are a big 12 school playing in the SEC. We have to play like big 12 teams. We can find the recievers and quarterbacks to sling it around, we will never consistantly get the lineman needed to play pro style.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2017, 03:10:05 pm »

Look at our recruiting grounds. How many of the big talent producing schools in Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisiana are running big 10 offenses. The answer is 0. They are all spread passing teams. You have to adapt your offense to fit your recruiting grounds. Thats why we suck. We are recruiting these players that have run up tempo their whole high school careers and trying to jam them into a power running team.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2017, 03:28:10 pm »

Davidr295 is exactly right - we can't try to out Bama (Auburn, LSU, etc.) Bama anymore. We simply don't have the recruiting base to do it. Either we jump to the Big 12, which we won't do, or we adapt.

What would we have to lose? This guy shows he can win games at places that are tough to win.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2017, 06:20:08 pm »

Aliens, bigfoot, pirates, vikings, graveyards, and the list goes on. His pressers are legendary.

I've got to start listening to his pressers.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2017, 06:43:28 pm »

I've got to start listening to his pressers.

Saw one recently where he talked at length about the different mascots in college football and who had the best. He finally thought Pittsburg State (Kansas) was the best since they were the Gorillas. Dude can talk at length about stuff you never would normally hear a coach talk about. Very entertaining, but I think it is just the way he is.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2017, 07:22:01 pm »



Because the SEC is an entirely different league than everyone else. Defense is a big deal in the SEC.

Soooo why would the Air Raid fail? Its designed to get your best athletes in space to exploit defenses. Would you rather we continue to line up in the I with double tight ends and run traps/draws into the front sevens of Bama, LSU, and Auburn?
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2017, 10:05:07 pm »

It's crazy how people will suggest guys like Leach but turn their nose up at people who have actually accomplished something in this league.

some of these guys would whine about Urban Meyer because he does not throw enough.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2017, 10:24:21 pm »

Saw one recently where he talked at length about the different mascots in college football and who had the best. He finally thought Pittsburg State (Kansas) was the best since they were the Gorillas. Dude can talk at length about stuff you never would normally hear a coach talk about. Very entertaining, but I think it is just the way he is.

I listened to the one about mascots, the one about Bigfoot and aliens, and the one where he talks about pirates and vikings.  He may be a little goofy, but the guy seems like behind the goofy facade, he is pretty intelligent.
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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2017, 07:43:17 am »

Please do not hire this man!!!!

Not to mention he may want to move all games to little rock.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2017, 08:00:56 am »

Just have to keep our players away from their "fat little girlfriends." The original rat poison.
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2017, 10:44:39 am »

I personally think Leach would be great at best and a hilarious presser at worst. I love the talk of aliens, bigfoot, goth people and such. My biggest concern with Leach would be a defense. I would worry about his ability to put a defense on the field. It would be a Petrino like offense, but I fear a Petrino like defense also.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2017, 10:59:47 am »

I personally think Leach would be great at best and a hilarious presser at worst. I love the talk of aliens, bigfoot, goth people and such. My biggest concern with Leach would be a defense. I would worry about his ability to put a defense on the field. It would be a Petrino like offense, but I fear a Petrino like defense also.

I also worry that the shenanigans will get old if we aren't winning. People around here only have patience for this stuff if we are winning.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2017, 12:10:58 pm »

I personally think Leach would be great at best and a hilarious presser at worst. I love the talk of aliens, bigfoot, goth people and such. My biggest concern with Leach would be a defense. I would worry about his ability to put a defense on the field. It would be a Petrino like offense, but I fear a Petrino like defense also.

Leach and Petrino do not run similar type of offenses. Leach has the air-raid offense which is basically almost all passing. Petrino runs a power-spread which is a multiple type of offense. Petrino's offense will sometimes line up from the I-formation or pistol to 5-wide spread. That is why Petrino had good running backs when he was here at Arkansas - Michael Smith, Dennis Johnson, & Knile Davis.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2017, 12:37:53 pm »



Because the SEC is an entirely different league than everyone else. Defense is a big deal in the SEC.

Maybe 10 years ago but like 75% of the defenses in the SEC lately have been terrible. Only about 4 teams have a really good one.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2017, 01:49:51 pm »

Bring us Jack Sparrow.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 02:49:22 pm »

I personally think Leach would be great at best and a hilarious presser at worst. I love the talk of aliens, bigfoot, goth people and such. My biggest concern with Leach would be a defense. I would worry about his ability to put a defense on the field. It would be a Petrino like offense, but I fear a Petrino like defense also.

In 10 years at Tech, he won at least 7 games EVERY year. To put some perspective on it, the last few teams to beat Bama (OU, Aggie, Miss, Clemson) all spread the ball all over the field to get athletes in space and run tempo. There is no way to completely stop an air raid offense.
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Re: Mike Leach
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2017, 03:30:12 pm »

In 10 years at Tech, he won at least 7 games EVERY year. To put some perspective on it, the last few teams to beat Bama (OU, Aggie, Miss, Clemson) all spread the ball all over the field to get athletes in space and run tempo. There is no way to completely stop an air raid offense.

Those teams ( cant remember about ou actually ) had freaks at QB. Not many of them around like those guys either.
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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2017, 03:37:33 pm »

In 10 years at Tech, he won at least 7 games EVERY year. To put some perspective on it, the last few teams to beat Bama (OU, Aggie, Miss, Clemson) all spread the ball all over the field to get athletes in space and run tempo. There is no way to completely stop an air raid offense.

He is the winningest coach in TTech history.
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2017, 03:50:47 pm »

I think Leach is a really good coach, and I love his press conferences. But for some reason I don't think he'd be a good fit at Arkansas. Don't ask me why because it's just a gut feeling I have. But I'd definitely take him over what we have.
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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2017, 06:37:09 pm »

Those teams ( cant remember about ou actually ) had freaks at QB. Not many of them around like those guys either.

Lol. OUs qb was Trevor Knight. He lost the job and transfer to Aggie the next year. Chad Kelly was the signal caller for Ole Miss. Arkansas best Chad Kelly last year. I will respectfully disagree that either were freaks.
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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2017, 06:44:07 pm »

This season, during miserable conditions, the Washing St offense went 3-out on two consecutive drives with poor effort against Colorado. They were up 21-0 in the 3rd (they won 28-0) and Leach was unimpressed. He had the entire offense do updowns on the sidelines while he watched in the middle of th game. Maybe that would have lot a fire under the Hogs almost getting beat my CC this last weekend? Better than halftime PBJs for sure.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/buzztulsa.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2017-10-23-mike-leach-has-the-offense-to-up-downs-on-the-sideline/
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2017, 09:53:06 pm »

I used to post on rivals cfb forums, some of his players got in trouble last year and he whined about how hard it was to recruit to the town and keep the kids out of trouble. take from it what you will, but what makes you think he would succeed in a much tougher conference with the same or similar recruiting challenges and an offense that has questionable effectiveness vs good defenses.
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« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2017, 09:59:35 am »

I used to post on rivals cfb forums, some of his players got in trouble last year and he whined about how hard it was to recruit to the town and keep the kids out of trouble. take from it what you will, but what makes you think he would succeed in a much tougher conference with the same or similar recruiting challenges and an offense that has questionable effectiveness vs good defenses.

People do not care about that stuff, they just know "Leach throw ball, LEach like pass, me like pass, me no like defense."
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