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Rumors and more rumors
« on: November 06, 2017, 05:51:37 pm »

As of bout 2 weeks ago I was certain Jeff Long would be retained and may or may not even fire our current coach. Was told today that that's not necessarily the case that I should wait til the Board meeting this week and pray for silence. As in no reports of what went on there officially. Like press conference announcing Longs new contract n such. Up until and thru last nite and today I had not much hope. Aparently the PTB aren't as happy with him as I'd previously taken for granted.
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 05:55:53 pm »

As of bout 2 weeks ago I was certain Jeff Long would be retained and may or may not even fire our current coach. Was told today that that's not necessarily the case that I should wait til the Board meeting this week and pray for silence. As in no reports of what went on there officially. Like press conference announcing Longs new contract n such. Up until and thru last nite and today I had not much hope. Aparently the PTB aren't as happy with him as I'd previously taken for granted.

Very telling. Or not.....
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 05:56:20 pm »

Jeff Long is under contract until 2022, according to Matt Jones of the ADG. Now, they can fire him at their pleasure at any time. He says the contract he signed in 2015 has had the same 5 year rollover provision, I have know idea if that's correct or not.
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 05:57:42 pm »

Very telling. Or not.....
I'd like Rice to go over the financial situation mor or any updates in that area.
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 05:59:01 pm »

Not going to be happy if they extend Long's contract. Even if they keep him they should not do a 5 year rollover or whatever it's called. He needs a show of displeasure from the PTB.
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 06:01:57 pm »

Jeff Long is under contract until 2022, according to Matt Jones of the ADG. Now, they can fire him at their pleasure at any time. He says the contract he signed in 2015 has had the same 5 year rollover provision, I have know idea if that's correct or not.
I'm not saying you're wrong, because I absolutely do not know. But I have read in 2 different articles that Long was under contract until June 2018. 
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 06:02:40 pm »

When you can't get the media personnel, radio callers, newspaper columnists, or game commentators to do anything but criticize the coaches and state of our program constantly, the BOT has to hear it. They have no choice--there's nowhere to hide from it.

The dissent is EVERYWHERE and the response is inevitable.
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 06:05:28 pm »

The silence is deafening at this point.  As an AD, I don't know how you ignore that happened last weekend.  The unlikely Ole Miss win seemed to stem the tide briefly, but if they're thinking a win is a win when it's a 1 point victory over CC....then that's crazy.  How do you not say something...anything?  That sort of makes me wonder if there's not a hush-hush exit strategy for both JL and CBB being discussed that allows all parties to save face.  It seems to add up. 

The flip side is..what would he possibly say to appease the fan base?  "I know we suck, but we're going to ride this out and see if maybe BB will resign and save us the buyout, wreck a bike in the ditch, or make some other ill advised decision to help us out of this mess.  Oh and BTW, sorry it didn't work out, and I hired the wrong guy.  I thought I was doing well."   :D   
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 06:08:23 pm »

I claim no source because they are usually worthless, but Iíve been told that Long and Bielema are both gone. The meeting this week will not extend Longís contract. He will be informed of the decision this week. Again, I claim no real source just what Iíve been told by someone.
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 06:10:24 pm »

I'd like Rice to go over the financial situation mor or any updates in that area.

Well, there was the original contract with the 5 year rollover unless he was notified before July 1st that it wasn't. According to Matt, it's was extended in 2017, so thru 2022 currently. There have been two raises in 2012 and 2013, and one of them said he would be paid $1m/yr if fired without cause. I haven't seen either contract, but did read the letters with the raises, I'm sure the ADG FOI'd and has seen the contracts, or the original. He also said that there wasn't any mention of Long's contract in the upcoming meeting, but I don't know what they have to publicly disclose on what is in their executive session besides saying they are talking about employees. Lots of typing to say, I don't have a clue what is correct.
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 06:12:44 pm »

I'm not saying you're wrong, because I absolutely do not know. But I have read in 2 different articles that Long was under contract until June 2018. 

Exactly what I told Matt and he posted a provision in his contract showing the rollover and stated it was rolled over last July 1st.
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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 06:16:25 pm »

Exactly what I told Matt and he posted a provision in his contract showing the rollover and stated it was rolled over last July 1st.

Isnt his buyout only around 500k? Not that in the real world 500k isnt a whole lot of money, but relatively speaking if they want him gone that shouldn't be a problem.
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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2017, 06:22:07 pm »

He is under contract until 2022.  It automatically rolls over to five years when it goes below that.  If the OP is right, the BOT will exercise the option to NOT roll it over which is in effect, a vote of no confidence.  Heíll be gone before too long in that case and likely not all that involved in choosing a new coach.  Oh, heíll go through the motions and do as he is told because he wants the time to move on his own and not be fired, but he will in effect he told to ďgitĒ.

If the OP is correct, that is likely how it will play out and Long will take the first job he can get on the way out of town.
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Re: Rumors and more rumors
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 06:34:06 pm »

Exactly what I told Matt and he posted a provision in his contract showing the rollover and stated it was rolled over last July 1st.
Gotcha . Thanks.
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2017, 06:45:38 pm »

Does the north end zone project have any impact on retaining Long?  Maybe the BoT would want that finished before he departs?
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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2017, 06:46:36 pm »

Does the north end zone project have any impact on retaining Long?  Maybe the BoT would want that finished before he departs?

I think it'll be done before 2022......
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2017, 06:53:28 pm »

I think it'll be done before 2022......

What i was thinking is he sticks around until that project is finished (2018?) then leaves.
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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2017, 06:56:38 pm »

What i was thinking is he sticks around until that project is finished (2018?) then leaves.

I know, just having fun, I think??
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2017, 06:57:35 pm »

I know, just having fun, I think??

Rumors and more rumors.  They come at you so fast they just mess you up!
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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2017, 06:59:20 pm »

Jeff and Bret met on Sunday evening.  The Board of Trustees meets on Wednesday.....  We have a new Chancellor from Ohio State.  Draw your own conclusions...
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2017, 07:00:31 pm »

Jeff and Bret met on Sunday evening.  The Board of Trustees meets on Wednesday.....  We have a new Chancellor from Ohio State.  Draw your own conclusions...

They are both getting raises?
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2017, 07:01:10 pm »

Jeff and Bret met on Sunday evening.  The Board of Trustees meets on Wednesday.....  We have a new Chancellor from Ohio State.  Draw your own conclusions...
They slept at a holiday inn last night?
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2017, 07:02:27 pm »

Something is definitely up with Long.  His last tweet was on October 20th.  Since then weíve had the SEC Cross Country Championship and the women went to SEC soccer championship game.  And nada from Jeff.  Not one thing.

This is bigger than football.  Find one time in his tenure here where he has disappeared like that.  You canít.  That is almost like a guy who has been told to shut up or has been told to hit the road or something.

Congratulatory tweets from the AD to those teams involved are pretty much part of the job these days and the lack thereof, is HIGHLY irregular for Jeff Long.
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2017, 07:03:35 pm »

Jeff and Bret met on Sunday evening.  The Board of Trustees meets on Wednesday.....  We have a new Chancellor from Ohio State.  Draw your own conclusions...
They went and got free tattoos?
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2017, 07:04:27 pm »

Jeff and Bret met on Sunday evening.  The Board of Trustees meets on Wednesday.....  We have a new Chancellor from Ohio State.  Draw your own conclusions...

We are getting Urban!!!! WPS
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« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2017, 07:05:34 pm »

Jeff Long is under contract until 2022, according to Matt Jones of the ADG. Now, they can fire him at their pleasure at any time. He says the contract he signed in 2015 has had the same 5 year rollover provision, I have know idea if that's correct or not.

Or he can be fired for cause...... there's 65,00,000 reasons they can fire with cause.
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2017, 07:06:06 pm »

They went and got free tattoos?

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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2017, 07:06:48 pm »

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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2017, 07:07:08 pm »

Or he can be fired for cause...... there's 65,00,000 reasons they can fire with cause.

No good with , ?
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2017, 07:09:22 pm »

Or he can be fired for cause...... there's 65,00,000 reasons they can fire with cause.

Umm, we've been down this path before, but good try.
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2017, 07:12:25 pm »

Jeff and Bret met on Sunday evening.  The Board of Trustees meets on Wednesday.....  We have a new Chancellor from Ohio State.  Draw your own conclusions...

New Chancellor likes good football? That's a plus.
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« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2017, 07:14:05 pm »

Jeff Long is under contract until 2022, according to Matt Jones of the ADG. Now, they can fire him at their pleasure at any time. He says the contract he signed in 2015 has had the same 5 year rollover provision, I have know idea if that's correct or not.

That may be the case, but you know as well as the rest of us that that doesn't mean that he is always guaranteed five more years.  How many years did Petrino have on his contract.
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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2017, 07:15:10 pm »

That may be the case, but you know as well as the rest of us that that doesn't mean that he is always guaranteed five more years.  How many years did Petrino have on his contract.

No, it just means he will be paid for those years.
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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2017, 07:16:33 pm »

Iíve heard that Steinmetz is not a fan of the Longster, but I wouldnít know the real truth of that.  I will say that the one function I went to where Steinmetz was, he seemed like a real humble and down to earth guy...sort of the opposite of Long and maybe someone who might not be impressed with the imperial athletic director.
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2017, 07:18:15 pm »

I’ve heard that Steinmetz is not a fan of the Longster, but I wouldn’t know the real truth of that.  I will say that the one function I went to where Steinmetz was, he seemed like a real humble and down to earth guy...sort of the opposite of Long and maybe someone who might not be impressed with the imperial athletic director.

That would be great news. Maybe the Steinmeister is better than Gayhart.
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2017, 07:19:59 pm »

No, it just means he will be paid for those years.

It will be a bargain at twice the price.
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« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2017, 07:20:11 pm »

Since speculation is rampant, especially about Bielema's replacement, just wondering if anyone wants to throw out a candidate's name for a new AD should it come to that?
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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2017, 07:21:39 pm »

It will be a bargain at twice the price.

Don't count your votes too soon.
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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2017, 07:22:15 pm »

Since speculation is rampant, especially about Bielema's replacement, just wondering if anyone wants to throw out a candidate's name for a new AD should it come to that?

Talk Terry Don into a five year stint to right the ship and groom a replacement.
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2017, 07:25:16 pm »

Talk Terry Don into a five year stint to right the ship and groom a replacement.

Hasn't he already retired from Clemson a few years ago?
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2017, 07:27:21 pm »

Hasn't he already retired from Clemson a few years ago?
I'll bet he's like me enjoying retirement and not interested in working again.
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2017, 07:28:12 pm »

I claim no source because they are usually worthless, but Iíve been told that Long and Bielema are both gone.

You were told the truth.
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2017, 07:29:56 pm »

Don't count your votes too soon.

I don't know how many votes there are either way and don't claim to know.  I'm just hoping.
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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2017, 07:31:24 pm »

Hasn't he already retired from Clemson a few years ago?

Thatís why I said that we would need to talk him into it.
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2017, 07:37:22 pm »

Iíve heard that Steinmetz is not a fan of the Longster, but I wouldnít know the real truth of that.  I will say that the one function I went to where Steinmetz was, he seemed like a real humble and down to earth guy...sort of the opposite of Long and maybe someone who might not be impressed with the imperial athletic director.

This is a wonderful post.
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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2017, 07:40:12 pm »

I'm not going to comment on Long, but since someone commented on the chancellor I will give my opinion. I think Joe is a good leader for the UofA and a good guy. I emailed him over the summer to voice my concerns over an issue on campus since my daughter was an incoming freshman. I received a personal and thoughtful response. Now there's a chance it was his admin that sent it but felt like a genuine reply and that was enough for me.

As far as his time at OSU I believe that's a good thing as well. He understands the importance of athletics to a flagship university with football being the lead. He's also seen the bad side of it as well if programs are not being run the right way. I have faith in him dealing with Long and the BOT to find the best possible solution and candidate.
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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2017, 07:42:32 pm »

This is a wonderful post.

Iím not sure it is all that wonderful.  I admit that it is pretty much speculation.  For all I really know Long and Steinmetz are at this very minute sitting together, smoking big cigars, drinking whatever it is that Yankees drink and laughing at the yokels.
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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2017, 08:11:21 pm »

They are both getting raises?
Sweater vests, they're getting sweater vests.
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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2017, 08:15:17 pm »

Well, there was the original contract with the 5 year rollover unless he was notified before July 1st that it wasn't. According to Matt, it's was extended in 2017, so thru 2022 currently. There have been two raises in 2012 and 2013, and one of them said he would be paid $1m/yr if fired without cause. I haven't seen either contract, but did read the letters with the raises, I'm sure the ADG FOI'd and has seen the contracts, or the original. He also said that there wasn't any mention of Long's contract in the upcoming meeting, but I don't know what they have to publicly disclose on what is in their executive session besides saying they are talking about employees. Lots of typing to say, I don't have a clue what is correct.
Thx for this info but I was referring to the new projects info you posted bout 3-4 weeks ago. The figures/amounts of boxes and seats sold and the projections of sales and any updates on further sales since then. The over budget info you had was interesting. I realize some difference is expected and over cost is normal with projects this large.
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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2017, 08:15:20 pm »

You people are truly amazing.  You create stories out of thin air then report them as fact and the sheep follow.  Bah, bah, bah!  It's amazing how weak minded and gullible grown men can be.
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