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As bad as we are now, would we still beat Arkansas St in your opinion?

Does a Bear S##t in the woods? Yes!
Lol no. Not even confident vs UCA

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Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« on: November 06, 2017, 12:33:40 pm »

Your opinion?
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 12:34:33 pm »

Doubtful
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 12:36:50 pm »

How did we do against common opponents?


I picked #2 but I'm pretty sure we could beat UCA.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 12:46:42 pm »

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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 01:00:55 pm »

I am an Razorback all the way! But, ASU would white wash us this year!  No doubt in my Mind!!
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 01:03:24 pm »

do not care about this dumb poll
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 01:05:42 pm »

I always wanted to see this matchup but now I'm starting to understand the wisdom of the "never play ASU crowd".  ASU would manhandle us for 4 quarters and we'd never hear the end of it. 

So I guess I'm starting to come around on the ASU question. 
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 01:06:08 pm »

Yes we would beat them but they would almost win. That is what they often do against bad P5s.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 01:06:38 pm »

Where is the "who cares" choice?
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 01:15:29 pm »

do not care about this dumb poll
Then why did you take time to reply? Lol
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 01:29:58 pm »

You going to follow the Red Wolves to Mobile this weekend?
If not, why not?
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 01:32:04 pm »

Your opinion?

Would Arky State Beat Ole Myth?  Better yet, would Arky State beat KY? LMAO
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2017, 03:40:54 pm »

No.  Blow out win by ASU if the two teams met right now.  Comparable players, better coaching, greater desire to win the game.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 03:41:30 pm »

Would Arky State Beat Ole Myth?  Better yet, would Arky State beat KY? LMAO

Quite possibly.  I don't think either Ole Miss or Kentucky would like to find out.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2017, 03:42:53 pm »

no
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2017, 03:48:05 pm »

We beat NM State by 18.
We beat Coastal by 1.
19 points.

They beat NM State by 16.
They beat Coastal by 34.
50 points.

50-19=31.

Or, we get +2 for NM State, they get -33 for Coastal = 31.

Ergo, Arkansas State beats us by 31. Isn't that how it works?

Or is that just how it works on Hogville via some weird transitive property type thing?
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2017, 03:50:42 pm »

They might beat us this year because we are really bad, but they haven't beaten a good team yet . They are just fortunate that they play in one of if not the weakest conferences in the country. Look at who they've beaten, not really impressive.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2017, 03:55:47 pm »

If you haven't had the pleasure of seeing Arkansas State play this year, you should.  They clearly don't have the talent that the Hogs do, but they are VERY well coached. 

If the Hogs were as well coached as ASU, we'd be debating about which bowl we're going to, not who our next coach is going to be. 

BTW, we could do a LOT worse than Blake Anderson, IMHO.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2017, 03:59:11 pm »

Wouldn't feel confident calling it either way. It would be decided in the fourth I think.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2017, 04:00:00 pm »

Quite possibly.  I don't think either Ole Miss or Kentucky would like to find out.

Wishful thinking, Razorback fan.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2017, 04:07:57 pm »

Wishful thinking, Razorback fan.

I guess I'm a little confused here.  Is it your position that Arkansas State wouldn't beat Arkansas, Ole Miss, or Kentucky?
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2017, 04:10:06 pm »

Not this year.  This is the one in ten.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2017, 04:21:07 pm »

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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2017, 04:29:39 pm »

ASU was up 34-7 going into the 4th, playing 2nd and 3rd string players...Arkansas was down 31-25 going into the 4th, needing a late game TD to win by 1....

Pretty obvious who would win. Western Illinois beat CCU 52-10 at CCU...
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2017, 04:39:12 pm »

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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2017, 04:47:52 pm »

There was a thread started a week or so back about what the spread for this game would be this year.

I said -3.5 Hogs. Homers of course said it would be at least -7 Arkansas but more likely -10 or more. I wonder if they still feel as strongly? I don't see any way this team could keep pace with Arkansas State this season.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2017, 05:16:29 pm »

Sweetfeet, please don't use phrase "we" in reference to being a razorback fan.  We know you are an astate fan.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2017, 06:18:57 pm »

I doubt we could out prepare or out coach them, but i wouldn't bet against our players swelling up and winning one for their own pride.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2017, 09:14:02 pm »

Sweetfeet, please don't use phrase "we" in reference to being a razorback fan.  We know you are an astate fan.

And a diehard at that.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2017, 09:30:07 pm »

In case nobody's noticed, we are really down this year. It's a good time to NOT be playing someone like Arkansas State.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2017, 09:31:50 pm »

Hard to say. You can't go off the CCU game because Bert is DMW in that game. If you want to "scoreboard compare", we did beat NMSU worse than they did. Early in the season, we'd win. Now, who knows.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2017, 09:33:07 pm »

ASU was up 34-7 going into the 4th, playing 2nd and 3rd string players...Arkansas was down 31-25 going into the 4th, needing a late game TD to win by 1....

Pretty obvious who would win. Western Illinois beat CCU 52-10 at CCU...

And Arkansas beat NMSU worse than ASUj did, and had a conservative 4th Qtr.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2017, 09:34:02 pm »

Your opinion?


UCA would curb stomp the hogs this year.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2017, 09:39:24 pm »

I don't know, but I often wondered why instead of paying some out of state cupcakes, why not put AS  on the schedule. At least the million we pay them will stay in the state.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2017, 09:40:44 pm »

Comparing common opponents.......probably not
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2017, 09:41:09 pm »

I don't know, but I often wondered why instead of paying some out of state cupcakes, why not put AS  on the schedule. At least the million we pay them will stay in the state.
They get a million for playing Nebraska so it evens out.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2017, 09:46:29 pm »

I don't know, but I often wondered why instead of paying some out of state cupcakes, why not put AS  on the schedule. At least the million we pay them will stay in the state.
Never have understood this argument. Is a million from UA somehow worth more than a million from Nebraska, Auburn, Alabama, etc.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2017, 09:47:50 pm »

No.  We barely beat the worst Sunbelt team last week.  Both Arkansas State and Troy would destroy this Razorback team.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2017, 09:59:14 pm »

ASU would lay 55 on the Hogs
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2017, 10:01:02 pm »

No AST would skull bang us
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2017, 10:04:58 pm »

No AST would skull bang us
I actually went to a website tonight and keyed in both teams and AState would be a 7.5pt favorite on a neutral field.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2017, 10:10:32 pm »

And Arkansas beat NMSU worse than ASUj did, and had a conservative 4th Qtr.
Had A-State not had over a 100 yds in penalties in the first half they would have put the game away early, and when the penalties stopped it was game over. They shut their offense down all night. Gave them a short field after a fumble, and a A-State db simply missed on a easy interception that resulted in a long TD.

Plus their game was at NMSU, not a home game and that is a big difference, especially for teams that are use to playing at close to sea level.

Here or the game stats for both games.

https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf9/5460605.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=7200&_ga=2.210989904.411116785.1510027307-459588903.1510027307

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats/football/2017/04.pdf
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2017, 10:15:25 pm »

Had A-State not had over a 100 yds in penalties in the first half they would have put the game away early, and when the penalties stopped it was game over.

Plus their game was at NMSU, not a home game and that is a big difference, especially for teams that are use to playing at close to sea level.

Here or the game stats for both games.

https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf9/5460605.pdf?DB_OEM_ID=7200&_ga=2.210989904.411116785.1510027307-459588903.1510027307

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats/football/2017/04.pdf

Penalties are part of it. THEY committed THEIR penalties.

IF.

If Bert didn't know he wasn't coming back, we would've kicked CCU's teeth in.

If Agim doesn't get tossed, we kick their teeth in.

If the pass at halftime was 6' further, we kick their teeth in.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2017, 10:17:15 pm »

Penalties are part of it. THEY committed THEIR penalties.

IF.

If Bert didn't know he wasn't coming back, we would've kicked CCU's teeth in.

If Agim doesn't get tossed, we kick their teeth in.

If the pass at halftime was 6' further, we kick their teeth in.
I'm not making excuses for them, they totally dominated NMSU, at NMSU. NMSU rushed for 35 yrds all night, and the only thing that kept that game close were the penalties.

They can play bad and beat most SBC teams.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2017, 12:08:42 am »

They might beat us this year because we are really bad, but they haven't beaten a good team yet . They are just fortunate that they play in one of if not the weakest conferences in the country. Look at who they've beaten, not really impressive.
Who has the Hogs beat? Red Wolves beat 2 of the 4 teams Hogs have beat.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2017, 12:52:03 am »

And Arkansas beat NMSU worse than ASUj did, and had a conservative 4th Qtr.


That was then.  This is now.
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Re: Would we beat Arkansas State this year?
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2017, 05:52:46 am »

The hogs need to beat them every yr
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