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Cole Kelley's Helmet
« on: November 06, 2017, 12:05:13 am »

Kind of a minor thing, but we got a good laugh out of it on Saturday.  While getting pounded by the mighty Coastal Carolina Chanticleers we couldn't help but notice the number of pride stickers (awards) on the back of Cole Kelly's helmet.  This is a red shirt freshman who is starting his 4th game.. up until Saturday he had only won 1 game thanks to Ole Miss being Ole Miss while getting ripped by Alabama & Auburn.

So where are all the awards coming from?  I can see maybe a couple.. 1 for going to class, 1 for getting good grades, 1 for surviving an entire game with our offensive line, but what in the heck are all the others?

To me this is a microcosm of everything that is wrong with the Hogs right now, we are giving out awards to these kids that have little to know value.  I guess it makes the millennial players feel better but in my generation I would be embarrassed to accept them.  We are rewarding mediocrity, it has to stop. 

Edit: To be clear I'm not calling Cole out, he is doing the best he can, I'm calling out the system and the coach here.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2017, 12:07:48 am »

I noticed Austin Allen had nearly a dozen for the first game.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2017, 12:08:37 am »

Kind of a minor thing, but we got a good laugh out of it on Saturday.  While getting pounded by the mighty Coastal Carolina Chanticleers we couldn't help but notice the number of pride stickers (awards) on the back of Cole Kelly's helmet.  This is a red shirt freshman who is starting his 4th game.. up until Saturday he had only won 1 game thanks to Ole Miss being Ole Miss while getting ripped by Alabama & Auburn.

So where are all the awards coming from?  I can see maybe a couple.. 1 for going to class, 1 for getting good grades, 1 for surviving an entire game with our offensive line, but what in the heck are all the others?

To me this is a microcosm of everything that is wrong with the Hogs right now, we are giving out awards to these kids that have little to know value.  I guess it makes the millennial players feel better but in my generation I would be embarrassed to accept them.  We are rewarding mediocrity, it has to stop. 

Edit: To be clear I'm not calling Cole out, he is doing the best he can, I'm calling out the system and the coach here.
Why don't you ask CK about it? Also, when you do tell him he doesn't deserve them.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2017, 12:09:39 am »

I noticed Austin Allen had nearly a dozen for the first game.

He's a senior, I get that.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2017, 12:12:06 am »

Why don't you ask CK about it? Also, when you do tell him he doesn't deserve them.

If I was a reporter and had the audience I would.  And I'm not saying he doesn't deserve them, if the system is designed to get an award every time you make a completion then he has earned every one of them.  My point here is that this is the problem with our program, we are giving awards and congratulating them for meaningless accomplishments.  You see it everywhere in our program from on the field to performance to the offseason and lack of strength conditioning.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2017, 12:12:55 am »

He's a senior, I get that.

He had a full helmet by the end of last season though. They weren’t carried over.

I have never heard of giving them out for practice.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 12:20:32 am »

Why don't you ask CK about it? Also, when you do tell him he doesn't deserve them.
Lighten up! He is crticizing the coaches who award the damn stickers, not CK. And there is no way CK's play this year warrants that many stickers. It does look ridiculous. He is doing well for a redshirt freshman in his first few games. I love his spirit and fearlessness. I just wish he'd work on his accuracy.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 01:00:30 am »

You ever see Ohio State's helmets?  They are full of stickers. Truth is, you don't know why they get stickers.  Could be for game performance.  Could be classroom performance.  Could be for practicing hard.  Who knows, maybe he made a happy plate at dinner one night last week.  And really, who gives a rip how many stickers they have?  Just seems like you're nitpicking IMO.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 01:31:36 am »

He wants somebody to give him a helmet full of stickers for this post. Can somebody get this man some stickers?
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 01:42:06 am »

I noticed Austin Allen had nearly a dozen for the first game.

Yeah. I saw lots of stickers during that first game.  Figured it must have been all the winning in practice that week.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 04:45:14 am »

I was wondering the same.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 05:20:28 am »

Helluva week at practice
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2017, 05:32:28 am »

Not sure, but could be he gets 4 for every A he makes in class?
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 05:56:19 am »

Yeah. I saw lots of stickers during that first game.  Figured it must have been all the winning in practice that week.

They give out stickers for whooping up on our D?
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2017, 06:16:33 am »

During his press conferences, Coach B appears to have a zero tolerance approach to negativity.  Conversely, we see Coach Saban discussing how too much positivity can poison a team’s character. 
« Last Edit: November 06, 2017, 06:31:00 am by Rayzback »
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2017, 06:20:38 am »

Ask FOTH
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2017, 06:24:41 am »

D.J. Williams said yesterday that the players are soft because the practices are too rah rah and they don’t work hard enough at them.  He said that under Petrino that they looked forward to the games to get a break from practice.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2017, 06:50:57 am »

They get stickers for being close.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2017, 06:54:23 am »

High school stickers.....
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2017, 06:56:47 am »

You don’t give rewards and awards to people for doing what they should do. 
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2017, 07:07:03 am »

The entire thing seems childish and should have been left behind as the moved to college. Guess that is what dumpling uses for motivation.
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2017, 07:13:26 am »

D.J. Williams said yesterday that the players are soft because the practices are too rah rah and they don’t work hard enough at them.  He said that under Petrino that they looked forward to the games to get a break from practice.

Just like under Nolan...I see a pattern...
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2017, 07:53:06 am »

Now we’re complaining about the stickers...? Wow.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2017, 07:57:47 am »

We give a coach $4mil plus a huge buyout...what's a sticker or two.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2017, 08:27:03 am »

Always gotta be that one person that blames everything on "the millennials"
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2017, 08:29:40 am »

Sticker ratio explained:

1:1 Sticker to Jelly sandwich consumed at half
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« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2017, 08:35:52 am »

Always gotta be that one person that blames everything on "the millennials"

Funny when it's the older generation that "enables millennials" and "caves" to these "damn millennials," too.
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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2017, 08:53:40 am »

If it's anything like my car, it's the only thing holding his helmet together.   :-[
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2017, 08:55:53 am »

And there is no way CK's play this year warrants that many stickers. 

Well you would know since you have a lot more contact with the players than any of those coaches that give the stickers....
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2017, 08:57:25 am »

D.J. Williams said yesterday that the players are soft because the practices are too rah rah and they don’t work hard enough at them.  He said that under Petrino that they looked forward to the games to get a break from practice.
Agree 100%
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2017, 09:04:00 am »

Somebody has to be jackass enough to tell these kids that not everybody gets a trophy in real life.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2017, 09:07:23 am »

Any man brave enough to stand behind our OL against the Auburn and Bama defense deserves a helmet full of stickers.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2017, 09:08:02 am »

If I was a reporter and had the audience I would.  And I'm not saying he doesn't deserve them, if the system is designed to get an award every time you make a completion then he has earned every one of them.  My point here is that this is the problem with our program, we are giving awards and congratulating them for meaningless accomplishments.  You see it everywhere in our program from on the field to performance to the offseason and lack of strength conditioning.

You do not have a clue what they do inside their program. So stop trying to discuss something you know nothing about.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2017, 09:13:41 am »

I heard they get helmet stickers for leadership reps.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2017, 09:22:49 am »

You don’t give rewards and awards to people for doing what they should do.

Can't believe they are giving out awards to anyone after the way this season has gone. 
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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2017, 09:50:38 am »

D.J. Williams said yesterday that the players are soft because the practices are too rah rah and they don’t work hard enough at them.  He said that under Petrino that they looked forward to the games to get a break from practice.

Bingo

And I bet DJ would say the players knew practice was going to be miserable for them if they played like crap in a game.

I think we all know that is an oceans length from Bielema practices.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2017, 02:19:19 pm »

Just to make sure I wasn't crazy, I went back and looked at the start of the game which had a good picture of the back of Cole's helmet.  It looks like there are about 56 awards on his helmet which just about covers up the entire back side of it.  If you put that helmet in front of me not knowing anything about the team or player I would have thought that this was a SEC champion, a Bowl game winner getting ready to play in the NFL next year.. but in our context you get this by winning 1 game as a redshirt freshman.  #Uncommon
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2017, 02:40:55 pm »

I don't care for stickers.  Many high quality teams don't use stickers, including Alabama, LSU, Texas, USC, or Notre Dame.
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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2017, 03:55:15 pm »

I don't really care one way or another whether we wear any or not. Obviously some programs do, some don't. Personal decision by the staff. Whatever the criteria for awarding them though I just hope it's for something more than just participating. Then again, for our QBs perhaps they actually represent "Purple Hearts" for the hits they take.
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2017, 04:15:58 pm »

Kind of a minor thing, but we got a good laugh out of it on Saturday.  While getting pounded by the mighty Coastal Carolina Chanticleers we couldn't help but notice the number of pride stickers (awards) on the back of Cole Kelly's helmet.  This is a red shirt freshman who is starting his 4th game.. up until Saturday he had only won 1 game thanks to Ole Miss being Ole Miss while getting ripped by Alabama & Auburn.

So where are all the awards coming from?  I can see maybe a couple.. 1 for going to class, 1 for getting good grades, 1 for surviving an entire game with our offensive line, but what in the heck are all the others?

To me this is a microcosm of everything that is wrong with the Hogs right now, we are giving out awards to these kids that have little to know value.  I guess it makes the millennial players feel better but in my generation I would be embarrassed to accept them.  We are rewarding mediocrity, it has to stop. 

Edit: To be clear I'm not calling Cole out, he is doing the best he can, I'm calling out the system and the coach here.

You should go away and take your post with you—no what I mean...?
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2017, 04:33:26 pm »

You should go away and take your post with you—know what I mean...?

I really don't, please enlighten me.
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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2017, 05:19:12 pm »

I don't care for stickers.  Many high quality teams don't use stickers, including Alabama, LSU, Texas, USC, or Notre Dame.

I don't like the stickers anymore than I do the big "look at me dance and celebration" just because I did my job and made the tackle, or I was running right behind the receiver when he dropped that pass, so now I gotta strut, and point, and pose, but we do a lot of that garbage too.
Kids these days are different, a lot different.
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2017, 05:34:23 pm »

I don't like the stickers anymore than I do the big "look at me dance and celebration" just because I did my job and made the tackle, or I was running right behind the receiver when he dropped that pass, so now I gotta strut, and point, and pose, but we do a lot of that garbage too.
Kids these days are different, a lot different.

This post is perfect.  When a WR drops a well thrown ball, and the defender who is behind him, out of position, acts like he just saved the game winning score...is hilarious to me. 

I'm in the get off my lawn generation, and I have news for the people who like to run down Millennials...they got that way from their parenting.  Learned behavior.  I'm guilty of it as well. 

We allowed it to happen.  Someone mentioned a microcosm earlier.  From the very first time I saw referees being jawed back at, players celebrating things that are just your responsibility, and it wasn't stopped...I knew it was coming.  The lack of respect for authority is rampant now, and the generations before them allowed that to happen. 

When I was a kid, if you had something to say to a ref...expect a flag in football with 15 yards go to with it, or a technical foul in basketball.  NO QUESTIONS asked.  First offense...PERIOD.  Where did that go?  Why did someone decide it was OK not to just play the game, keep your mouth shut, and do your best?  We're all a bunch of softies now... 
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2017, 05:36:49 pm »

Jeff longs cousin sells stickers for a living. Sounds more like his kind of idea anyway. Will we soon see a sticker selling skyboxes?
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2017, 05:37:36 pm »

I really don't, please enlighten me.
He loves dumpling so he gets a little touchy....
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« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2017, 06:30:22 pm »

QB's get stickers every time they get knocked on their arse and get back up to play the next down.
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« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2017, 06:34:23 pm »

Kind of a minor thing, but we got a good laugh out of it on Saturday.  While getting pounded by the mighty Coastal Carolina Chanticleers we couldn't help but notice the number of pride stickers (awards) on the back of Cole Kelly's helmet.  This is a red shirt freshman who is starting his 4th game.. up until Saturday he had only won 1 game thanks to Ole Miss being Ole Miss while getting ripped by Alabama & Auburn.

So where are all the awards coming from?  I can see maybe a couple.. 1 for going to class, 1 for getting good grades, 1 for surviving an entire game with our offensive line, but what in the heck are all the others?

To me this is a microcosm of everything that is wrong with the Hogs right now, we are giving out awards to these kids that have little to know value.  I guess it makes the millennial players feel better but in my generation I would be embarrassed to accept them.  We are rewarding mediocrity, it has to stop. 

Edit: To be clear I'm not calling Cole out, he is doing the best he can, I'm calling out the system and the coach here.


Bielema gives stickers for not missing class, being on time, getting GPA benchmarks. I'm not joking. Players had these in the first game before a single snap.
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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2017, 06:37:58 pm »

QB's get stickers every time they get knocked on their arse and get back up to play the next down.
Then he's gonna need a bigger helmet.

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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2017, 06:44:20 pm »

Ask FOTH

I don’t know all details.  I do know they get one for a team win in a game they played in.  I think offensive and defensive players get one for certain statistical goals (yards, pts, etc).  Individual for tds and pics, maybe a certain number of tackles. They do get a sticker if they have graduated and for being on the SEC Academic Honor Roll.  I’ve never really asked because I hate them.  Hated it when Petrino started giving them out and still do. 
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Re: Cole Kelley's Helmet
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2017, 08:42:56 pm »

Any man brave enough to stand behind our OL against the Auburn and Bama defense deserves a helmet full of stickers.
no Shiite!  The kid has been playing his heart out for his team
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