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Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« on: November 05, 2017, 06:52:48 pm »

If so, how? If not, why?
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 06:54:54 pm »

Heck NO 👎!
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 07:03:07 pm »

To have improved you can't be in last place in your division, so no.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 07:28:54 pm »

I can't believe this question would even be asked :o Very self-evident week after week. But here's one encouraging sign: "We're close after a week of great practices".
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 07:30:24 pm »

Ummm...I think that’s a given
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 07:30:37 pm »

Pepsi, Worf Hog, Smile and 5 years of Bielema miscues. What the heck do you think?
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 08:12:54 am »

So is Jeff Long the root of the problem?
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2017, 08:21:05 am »

To have improved you can't be in last place in your division, so no.

This response implies that the only facet of Long's job is the football program.  The reality is it isn't.  His job responsibilities include in large part the financial aspects of the athletic department, ensuring that all sports are run cleanly and successfully.  It requires an understanding of the global view for the department.  To judge his performance on one aspect ignores the other large parts of his job.  I was a partner in a large personal services firm, and I was responsible for various administrative functions including personnel, quality control and business development.  This was in addition to my client responsibility.  My success in my job would not be defined by one hire in one area of our firm. 
It is a far too simplistic discussion. I understand your frustration, however, but there are better areas to direct your efforts and direct change within our program. 
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2017, 09:35:50 am »

Another JL plant to smooth everything over. JL, has done a damn thing to advance the UofA sports programs other than brick and mortal.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2017, 09:50:42 am »

To be fair we've had our only back to back 10 win seasons under Long too.  Improved facilities, higher profits, etc, however, right now, things are headed south in a jury.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2017, 09:52:43 am »

This response implies that the only facet of Long's job is the football program.  The reality is it isn't.  His job responsibilities include in large part the financial aspects of the athletic department, ensuring that all sports are run cleanly and successfully.  It requires an understanding of the global view for the department.  To judge his performance on one aspect ignores the other large parts of his job.  I was a partner in a large personal services firm, and I was responsible for various administrative functions including personnel, quality control and business development.  This was in addition to my client responsibility.  My success in my job would not be defined by one hire in one area of our firm. 
It is a far too simplistic discussion. I understand your frustration, however, but there are better areas to direct your efforts and direct change within our program. 


And of all of the sports, mens and womens, that fall under Jeffy's control, which one is by far the largest, generates by far the greatest revenue, and in fact pays the bills for all of the other sports combined, with the exception of mens basketball and baseball which essentially break even?

Don't you think it would be prudent on Jeffy to make sure that this sport especially be on sound footing and not in self-destruct mode?
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2017, 10:00:04 am »

Here’s the problem with Jeff Long.

He’s the opposite type of AD Broyles was. He does not meddle with how the football coach runs the team, what kind of offense/defense schemes are run, assistant hires, etc. He hires the head coach and expects them to do their job without him looking over their shoulder.

Petrino was the perfect kind of head coach to fit that. Petrino runs every aspect of his football program and strived for perfection. He also demanded perfection out of his staff and players.

Bert on the other hand is the opposite. He’s lazy and does not have the same drive as a Petrino, Saban, Meyer, etc. Bert needs weekly direction and it’s clear Alvarez provided that and continues to provide that to Wisconsin coaches. Without that direction, you have what we have this season.

Long should’ve known that IMO.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2017, 10:00:56 am »

Here’s the problem with Jeff Long.

He’s the opposite type of AD Broyles was. He does not meddle with how the football coach runs the team, what kind of offense/defense schemes are run, assistant hires, etc. He hires the head coach and expects them to do their job without him looking over their shoulder.

Petrino was the perfect kind of head coach to fit that. Petrino runs every aspect of his football program and strived for perfection. He also demanded perfection out of his staff and players.

Bert on the other hand is the opposite. He’s lazy and does not have the same drive as a Petrino, Saban, Meyer, etc. Bert needs weekly direction and it’s clear Alvarez provided that and continues to provide that to Wisconsin coaches. Without that direction, you have what we have this season.

Long should’ve known that IMO.

And Long hated Petrino because he was a jackass in the hallways.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2017, 10:25:59 am »

And Long hated Petrino because he was a jackass in the hallways.

Plus he hurt someone's feelings at the Cotton Bowl.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2017, 10:30:55 am »

If so, how? If not, why?
You're kidding of course. He Dumb Assed away the best coach we ever had, then made a terrible hire. He doesn't care about winning so doesn't understand the football culture of Arkansas. Carpet Bagger.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2017, 10:38:07 am »

Of course not, we are much worse but the Soccer program is better.  :puke:
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2017, 10:39:13 am »

This response implies that the only facet of Long's job is the football program.  The reality is it isn't.  His job responsibilities include in large part the financial aspects of the athletic department, ensuring that all sports are run cleanly and successfully.  It requires an understanding of the global view for the department.  To judge his performance on one aspect ignores the other large parts of his job.  I was a partner in a large personal services firm, and I was responsible for various administrative functions including personnel, quality control and business development.  This was in addition to my client responsibility.  My success in my job would not be defined by one hire in one area of our firm. 
It is a far too simplistic discussion. I understand your frustration, however, but there are better areas to direct your efforts and direct change within our program.
Actually, that response answers the question at hand. Your response diverts from it.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2017, 10:44:50 am »

To be fair we've had our only back to back 10 win seasons under Long too.  Improved facilities, higher profits, etc, however, right now, things are headed south in a jury.

Weird, huh?
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2017, 10:45:11 am »

NO
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2017, 10:54:00 am »

So is Jeff Long the root of the problem?

Yes, Jeff Long is the root of the problem.

The football program was actually becoming successful until Long stupidly fired the main reason for the program's success.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2017, 11:02:36 am »

And Long hated Petrino because he was a jackass in the hallways.

Long hated Petrino because:

(A) Petrino was more popular than Long was and some were giving Petrino's success the credit for the increase in revenue instead of Long.

(B) Petrino, the man he didn't want and was forced to hire, was having success.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2017, 11:21:02 am »

Nope, Soccer has tho... Yea, that'll pay the bills.

He doesn't care about ANYTHING that was here before him. He doesn't get or care for ANY of our history and traditions.

EXCEPT for a few traditions he can sell for a buck. Like the A WALK? REALLY?

I bet if he could, he would SELL Senior walk. Which, come to think about it, he probably will at some point. IMG will be involved. I can see it now:

"The Class of 1997 is brought to you by Visit New Jersey. The OFFICIAL vacation spot of the Arkansas Razorbacks"

Did you know he's trying to keep TUSK from being in the stadium during games? Says there isn't enough room. JEFF YOU ASS, MAKE FREAKING ROOM!

Jeff Must Go! :-X
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2017, 11:30:57 am »


And of all of the sports, mens and womens, that fall under Jeffy's control, which one is by far the largest, generates by far the greatest revenue, and in fact pays the bills for all of the other sports combined, with the exception of mens basketball and baseball which essentially break even?

Don't you think it would be prudent on Jeffy to make sure that this sport especially be on sound footing and not in self-destruct mode?

I agree that football is the primary source of revenue.  Just like in any operation though, there are many pieces that go into the puzzle.   I wholeheartedly believe we need a new football coach.  I'm just saying you can't make an assessment on Long's performance based solely on CBB's employment today.  Stadium expansion and other athletic facilities have seen improvement and that is as important to continued attendance and recruiting for the football program.  I understand frustration with the athletic program, and specifically the football program.  I'm with you on that. 
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2017, 11:51:19 am »


And of all of the sports, mens and womens, that fall under Jeffy's control, which one is by far the largest, generates by far the greatest revenue, and in fact pays the bills for all of the other sports combined, with the exception of mens basketball and baseball which essentially break even?

Don't you think it would be prudent on Jeffy to make sure that this sport especially be on sound footing and not in self-destruct mode?

Sure. But his job security should not be tethered to the football coach's success or failure. The danger in that is two fold. One, you're sending the message to any future AD that his job secruity is partially out of his control. Two, to every other coach who might want to coach one of our other sports now or in the future... know that your sport is not important and that your Athletic Director will not prioritize your needs.

Firing your AD for your football team losing is a sure fire way to wreck the balance and profitability of your entire athletic department. Maybe not immediately after the firing, but it'll catch up to you.

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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2017, 12:03:48 pm »

Jeff Long's recruiting has been okay, not great but in line with previous classes.  I think Jeff showed a lot of guts to turn it around in Oxford last week but at home against Coastal he looked like he was in over his head. 

I do agree with his decision to go with Kelley though.
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Re: Has the football program improved with Jeff Long?
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2017, 01:28:10 pm »

With the game this week being so close its hard to tell. And the stands so full on homecoming weekend. Let me think!
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