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Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« on: November 05, 2017, 06:01:02 pm »

Bret is NOT the problem!  He is a SYMPTOM of the problem!! 

The problem is the same guy tried his best to hire Jim Grobe and Tommy Bowden and successfully hired John L Smith and Bielema (who was NEVER a good hire to anyone with a clue). Don’t forget the Jimmy Dykes deal. Jeff just has BAD JUDGMENT.

If we fall for the “Beliema is the problem” line then we are doomed to suffer the consequences of another Jeff Long screwup!!  Don’t be suckers!  Don’t let Jeff deflect blame for HIS failures!!! 

The buck stops with Jeff Long!
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 06:14:28 pm »

Have you informed the PTB about your insight?  Brilliant! LMAO
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 06:16:56 pm »

So, Jeff Long is the flu - and his coaching choices are sore throat, stuffy head, fever, nausea, and diarrhea?
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 06:17:13 pm »

At the time I think most of us thought it was a good hire. 
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 06:26:38 pm »

So, Jeff Long is the flu - and his coaching choices are sore throat, stuffy head, fever, nausea, and diarrhea?


Well done!
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 06:28:08 pm »

At the time I think most of us thought it was a good hire.

Speak for yourself, fella.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 06:28:49 pm »

fire them all just to be sure.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 06:33:01 pm »

At the time I think most of us thought it was a good hire.
I didn't. I never understood how anyone could think  trench warfare in the SEC West could be a recipe for success at Arkansas.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2017, 06:34:05 pm »

Ummm no 100% While I didn't like the hire cause I didn't like BB system on paper it was still a good hire but has failed in epic proportions if JLONG doesn't fire him after or hopefully before end of season then pitchfork that mofo as well. 
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2017, 06:36:14 pm »

I didn't. I never understood how anyone could think  trench warfare in the SEC West could be a recipe for success at Arkansas.

This is how I felt on the hire day one but looking at the record at whiskey and not knowing at the time it was really daddy alvarez brainchild I was open to it working.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2017, 06:37:19 pm »

Bret is NOT the problem!  He is a SYMPTOM of the problem!! 

The problem is the same guy tried his best to hire Jim Grobe and Tommy Bowden and successfully hired John L Smith and Bielema (who was NEVER a good hire to anyone with a clue). Don’t forget the Jimmy Dykes deal. Jeff just has BAD JUDGMENT.

If we fall for the “Beliema is the problem” line then we are doomed to suffer the consequences of another Jeff Long screwup!!  Don’t be suckers!  Don’t let Jeff deflect blame for HIS failures!!! 

The buck stops with Jeff Long!

Wow!! Thanks for that - I don't think anyone on this board has ever expressed that before
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2017, 07:13:24 pm »

I do think there could be something to his theory. I am done with Bret but thete coukd be something to it.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2017, 07:15:45 pm »

Bret is NOT the problem!  He is a SYMPTOM of the problem!! 

The problem is the same guy tried his best to hire Jim Grobe and Tommy Bowden and successfully hired John L Smith and Bielema (who was NEVER a good hire to anyone with a clue). Don’t forget the Jimmy Dykes deal. Jeff just has BAD JUDGMENT.

If we fall for the “Beliema is the problem” line then we are doomed to suffer the consequences of another Jeff Long screwup!!  Don’t be suckers!  Don’t let Jeff deflect blame for HIS failures!!! 

The buck stops with Jeff Long!

Don't forget Mike Anderson, with him we've been mediocre which is less than what we should be with a good coach.
Time for a new AD
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2017, 07:20:02 pm »

Long didn't want to hire Anderson and he's the second best coach on the hill.  Enough said...
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2017, 07:24:24 pm »

So, Jeff Long is the flu - and his coaching choices are sore throat, stuffy head, fever, nausea, and diarrhea?

Excellent analogy.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2017, 07:26:26 pm »

Long didn't want to hire Anderson and he's the second best coach on the hill.  Enough said...
Well he's the coach and JL is the AD. He was influenced to hire him because he's too incompetent to know who to hire
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2017, 07:26:56 pm »

So fire the AD and keep the coach.  Gotcha.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2017, 07:28:52 pm »

So fire the AD and keep the coach.  Gotcha.

Um, I’m pretty sure he’s saying fire Long, so he’s not around hire BB’s replacement.
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2017, 07:37:38 pm »

Don't forget Mike Anderson, with him we've been mediocre which is less than what we should be with a good coach.
Time for a new AD
Wrong.Mike has the basketball program in great shape.took the refs to keep him from beating the national champion UNC in the NCAA. it's one of the few good things Long has done. nice try Anderson hater.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2017, 07:37:52 pm »

elksnort, saying most is at least 51 percent liked the hire and I would wager it was closer to 80 percent.  I was not among the ones liking the hire.  Knowing the Arkansas background, I never believed the power run offense had a chance in the SEC.  In football you can win with just about any offense and any defense if you have excellent players and coaches.  I didn't know Bret was a terrible coach so my disapproval was based on the fact that Arkansas has never had over the top offensive and defensive lines.  Without those lines, Lou Holtz said you must get off the bus throwing the ball.  Lou was correct.  Jeff Long knew nothing about the Arkansas background and very little about football in general or he would have never, ever made that hire.

And to allow him to make the next hire is pure happenstance as to us getting a good coach for our circumstances.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2017, 07:40:22 pm »

Um, I’m pretty sure he’s saying fire Long, so he’s not around hire BB’s replacement.
May be the poster's thoughts, but that's not the way the post reads.
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2017, 07:43:20 pm »

May be the poster's thoughts, but that's not the way the post reads.

It’s pretty obvious from his post that he’s saying Long’s coaching hires all suck.  Therefore, Long needs to go before he’s allowed to screw up another hire.
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2017, 07:50:32 pm »

So, Jeff Long is the flu - and his coaching choices are sore throat, stuffy head, fever, nausea, and diarrhea?

+1 for spelling diarrhea correctly, something no one else on HV could do.
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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2017, 07:50:44 pm »

It’s pretty obvious from his post that he’s saying Long’s coaching hires all suck.  Therefore, Long needs to go before he’s allowed to screw up another hire.
But the current coach "is not the problem".
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Re: Bret Bielema is NOT the problem!!!
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2017, 07:57:31 pm »

But the current coach "is not the problem".

He’s the “symptom” of the problem.  Meaning Long is the fundamental problem.  A problem with symptoms such as crappy hires...BB being one of them.  It’s never good to be the symptom of a problem.  His post confirms his belief that BB was a bad hire. 

This dude nailed it...

So, Jeff Long is the flu - and his coaching choices are sore throat, stuffy head, fever, nausea, and diarrhea?
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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2017, 08:02:50 pm »

So, Jeff Long is the flu - and his coaching choices are sore throat, stuffy head, fever, nausea, and diarrhea?
Don't forget obesity.
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2017, 08:05:25 pm »

Look at what Jim Grobe had done at Wake Forest the two years right before we hired Bielema and tell me what was wrong with him? He has 20 wins and tool WAKE FOREST to a BCS Bowl game.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2017, 08:07:38 pm »


Mike has the basketball program in great shape.


Making the NCAA tourney only twice in 6 years, finishing in the top 25 one time in six years is having the BB program in great shape??

Good grief.

Nolan took us to the NCAA  13 times in 15 years.  That's what you call "great shape".
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2017, 08:14:25 pm »

Making the NCAA tourney only twice in 6 years, finishing in the top 25 one time in six years is having the BB program in great shape??

Good grief.

Nolan took us to the NCAA  13 times in 15 years.  That's what you call "great shape".
This, no one should ever confuse the two.
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2017, 08:21:28 pm »

Wow!! Thanks for that - I don't think anyone on this board has ever expressed that before


Oh, it's been expressed before but it needs repeating over and over because there are still too many fans out there that think Jeffy is the World's Greatest All-time Most Wonderfullest AD and Head Coach Hirer ever.

We need to get this man away from the UofA before he causes further damage.  Far away.  We need to take our program back.
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« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2017, 08:21:48 pm »

Why do people keep calling John L Smith a hire?  He was an interim coach.  You're not going to hire a decent coach in April.  If they are worth a flip and want to coach they are not going to be available that time of year.  I'm not defending Long.  Just tired of people referring to Smith as someone Long hired.  He was merely a stopgap until a coach could be hired.
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« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2017, 08:24:04 pm »

Why do people keep calling John L Smith a hire?  He was an interim coach.  You're not going to hire a decent coach in April.  If they are worth a flip and want to coach they are not going to be available that time of year.  I'm not defending Long.  Just tired of people referring to Smith as someone Long hired.  He was merely a stopgap until a coach could be hired.

Smilie had left the UofA's employment and had taken a job in Idaho.

Jeffy hired him to come back and coach the Razorbacks. 
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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2017, 08:25:36 pm »

Some folks and obviously the Jeffies won't truly get it til he tries to march Les Miles out as our coach. Then most of those will say"its not my choice but I'm gonna support the program.
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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2017, 08:26:09 pm »

Smilie had left the UofA's employment and had taken a job in Idaho.

Jeffy hired him to come back and coach the Razorbacks. 

As an interim coach because they wanted someone that was on the Petrino staff around for the season before they hired a long term coach.  I remember a number of people here going on about how Smith was going to get the job full time despite Smith having an interim tag on him the whole time. 
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2017, 08:56:33 pm »

I didn't. I never understood how anyone could think  trench warfare in the SEC West could be a recipe for success at Arkansas.

thinking back on headset bret's letter to long, his speeches afterwards, etc., it seems to me that headset bret thought he knew something that no one else knew, or had thought of.
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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2017, 09:06:10 pm »

At the time, Bielema was a better bet and a way bigger name than all the names we’re talking about right now. Norvell, Campbell and such. Hiring coaches isn’t just picking good coaches and cashing in wins.
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2017, 09:32:40 pm »

These are the same jabronies that complained non-stop about every move JFB made.
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2017, 09:48:37 pm »

At the time, Bielema was a better bet and a way bigger name than all the names we’re talking about right now. Norvell, Campbell and such. Hiring coaches isn’t just picking good coaches and cashing in wins.

I don't care home big a coaches name is.  I just want a good, young and hungry coach.  Hungry for wins, not donuts.

We could hire Hubert Blaine Wolfeschlegelsteinhausenbergerdorff and I wouldn't be impressed.  Big name but he probably can't coach much better than Bert.
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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2017, 09:54:03 pm »

Wrong.Mike has the basketball program in great shape.took the refs to keep him from beating the national champion UNC in the NCAA. it's one of the few good things Long has done. nice try Anderson hater.

FCJ I like most of your positions on all things hogs but you're wrong on CMA. What has he done?  He's decent but his ceiling isn't very high.  All I'm asking is get us to a elite eight, sweet sixteen weekend and finish ranked. We should be better and we can do much better, I've seen it. It's up to JL to find the coach to get us there.
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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2017, 09:57:53 pm »

Why do people keep calling John L Smith a hire?  He was an interim coach.  You're not going to hire a decent coach in April.  If they are worth a flip and want to coach they are not going to be available that time of year.  I'm not defending Long.  Just tired of people referring to Smith as someone Long hired.  He was merely a stopgap until a coach could be hired.

The minute Long became aware of Smith's enormous financial problems, lawsuits and bankruptcy - he should have been removed from any potential list. That Long hired him anyway is indefensible. Long didn't have the will to just choose someone from the current staff - which is what should have happened or if free at the time, Butch Davis should have been hired.
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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2017, 11:41:14 pm »

Wrong.Mike has the basketball program in great shape.took the refs to keep him from beating the national champion UNC in the NCAA. it's one of the few good things Long has done. nice try Anderson hater.

Yeah... we all loved that 16-16 season, a year ago.
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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2017, 11:45:01 pm »

The minute Long became aware of Smith's enormous financial problems, lawsuits and bankruptcy - he should have been removed from any potential list. That Long hired him anyway is indefensible. Long didn't have the will to just choose someone from the current staff - which is what should have happened or if free at the time, Butch Davis should have been hired.
Correct.  Long should have went the interim route with an assistant just like Ole Miss did this year.  Instead he hired JLS to a one year contract with the intention of hiring CBB after the conclusion of the season.
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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2017, 01:01:16 am »

The minute Long became aware of Smith's enormous financial problems, lawsuits and bankruptcy - he should have been removed from any potential list. That Long hired him anyway is indefensible. Long didn't have the will to just choose someone from the current staff - which is what should have happened or if free at the time, Butch Davis should have been hired.

Not like we would have been any better with Paul Petrino or Paul Haynes that year. They've both been terrible head coaches. People would just be be blaming Long for hiring them instead.
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« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2017, 02:24:28 am »

Some folks and obviously the Jeffies won't truly get it til he tries to march Les Miles out as our coach. Then most of those will say"its not my choice but I'm gonna support the program.

 Well, I for one, can say and mean it too...
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« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2017, 05:58:04 am »

Long didn't want to hire Anderson and he's the second best coach on the hill.  Enough said...

IF Long didn't want to hire him he wouldn't have. Now if he didn't there might have been some repercussions but he chose to hire him. He was not forced to.
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« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2017, 08:40:13 am »

Caught some of Bruce James on the The Buzz this morning.

Said he hopes Jeff Long NEVER makes another coaching hire at the University of Arkansas.
Says Long just doesn't have it - going back to his Pittsburgh days.
Felt that Broyles would have never hired Bielema because of he would have been smart enough to know that Bielema's philosophy would never work.

Wish I would have heard the whole show.
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« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2017, 08:47:37 am »

At the time, Bielema was a better bet and a way bigger name than all the names we’re talking about right now. Norvell, Campbell and such. Hiring coaches isn’t just picking good coaches and cashing in wins.

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« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2017, 08:58:11 am »

Not like we would have been any better with Paul Petrino or Paul Haynes that year. They've both been terrible head coaches. People would just be be blaming Long for hiring them instead.

I suspect the attitude of the coaching staff and players may have been better.
We had a lot of talent on that team.
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« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2017, 09:20:07 am »

Jimmy Dykes the worst hire of all time
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« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2017, 09:26:39 am »

At the time I think most of us thought it was a good hire. 

I didn't know fans are paid to make these decisions.  When do we get our checks?

I never thought it was a good idea.  In fact, I said from the time Long hired John L. Smith that he had self-imposed the death penalty on Arkansas football.  Guess what?
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