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Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« on: October 31, 2017, 08:01:43 am »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2017, 09:08:27 am »

Go Hogs!








And fire Long and Bielema!  Too soon ???
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2017, 09:16:40 am »

Woo Pig
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2017, 09:18:58 am »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.

Good luck with that, but I agree 100%.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2017, 09:25:58 am »

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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2017, 09:30:33 am »

That's why we have at least 50 threads to drive traffic to the site on Coaching changes....  lol
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2017, 09:44:38 am »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.

100% correct. Go Hogs.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2017, 09:48:14 am »

Watching those youngsters celebrating their win at Ole Miss Saturday caused me to re-focus on the very core of our football team, the players.  As fans we tend to ignore the tremendous toll it takes on a football team's psyche to have a down season like this one.  It was good to see them get that win and the players deserve our support and encouragement every game.

As for the future:  Que será, será
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2017, 10:35:15 am »

Agreed; take it week by week and let's see what happens.  Besides, I don't see much point in making 15,000 threads about a new coach when we don't even have a vacancy yet.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2017, 10:37:40 am »

This should be dedicated a Coaching search bye week.

We need the rest.



WPS BEAT THE HE!! OUTTA CC
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2017, 10:49:00 am »

Lanny and All Others,  It would be nice to come on here and just talk about the upcoming game, recruiting, who might replace who on the assistant coaching staff, etc..

But fairly thinking, that is difficult:  1.  Many of us assume the Management of this program is far more interested in saving Bret's job than making changes and we hope by showing disappointment, we might make a difference.  Being quiet appears to make the Decision Makers believe that all is well.  First off, Bret Bielema should have never been hired for the good of the program and for his own good.  2.  We have no faith in the decision makers choices and hope a dropped hint or two or 25,000 on here might make a difference.  3.  Even we weak thinkers like myself know this should have been attended to 2 or 3 years back before the small fire caught wind and is now racing across the State.  4.  Though it does get repetitive, there hasn't been much else to discuss until we finally did win a ballgame we should have won last Saturday, by one point, with a fieldgoal and in spite of ourselves, in general.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2017, 10:51:46 am »

Woo Pig!
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2017, 11:01:47 am »

AMEN!
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2017, 11:08:01 am »

I certainly plan on enjoying this weekend's game but don't think any of us will enjoy the rest of the season after that - not unless you're so anti-Bielema that you want the Hogs to lose, which is the likely outcome of our last three games.

I don't see anything wrong with conjecture on who the next coach might be, though. However, folks should be aware that it's very likely Coach Bielema isn't going anywhere. Like many others on Hogville, I don't believe Jeff Long will fire Coach Bielema until after next season and I don't care what Coach B. is whispering about resigning - that ain't happenin'.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2017, 11:08:52 am »

...we finally did win a ballgame we should have won last Saturday, by one point, with a fieldgoal and in spite of ourselves, in general.

...to a team that a successful -- or even mediocre -- coach would have made uncompetitive from the start.

We can't change the past, but we can change the future.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2017, 11:09:37 am »

WOOOOOOOO PIGS SOOIE!!!!!!

Beat the Hell out of Coastal Carolina!!!!!
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2017, 11:11:49 am »

I certainly plan on enjoying this weekend's game but don't think any of us will enjoy the rest of the season after that - not unless you're so anti-Bielema that you want the Hogs to lose, which is the likely outcome of our last three games.



I hope we win out, or at least win 3 of the next 4 and go bowling.

6-6 may not be stellar, but I still want to play in a bowl game.

There is going to a bowl, and there is not going to a bowl.  Kinda like to be or not to be.  We need the extra practice that comes with a bowl game.  And a bowl game is always exciting to watch.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2017, 11:13:53 am »

I hope we win out, or at least win 3 of the next 4 and go bowling.

6-6 may not be stellar, but I still want to play in a bowl game.

There is going to a bowl, and there is not going to a bowl.  Kinda like to be or not to be.  we need the extra practice that comes with a bowl game.

6-6 means no real change.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2017, 11:15:11 am »

Lanny and All Others,  It would be nice to come on here and just talk about the upcoming game, recruiting, who might replace who on the assistant coaching staff, etc..

But fairly thinking, that is difficult:  1.  Many of us assume the Management of this program is far more interested in saving Bret's job than making changes and we hope by showing disappointment, we might make a difference.  Being quiet appears to make the Decision Makers believe that all is well.  First off, Bret Bielema should have never been hired for the good of the program and for his own good.  2.  We have no faith in the decision makers choices and hope a dropped hint or two or 25,000 on here might make a difference.  3.  Even we weak thinkers like myself know this should have been attended to 2 or 3 years back before the small fire caught wind and is now racing across the State.  4.  Though it does get repetitive, there hasn't been much else to discuss until we finally did win a ballgame we should have won last Saturday, by one point, with a fieldgoal and in spite of ourselves, in general.

You could have just said you refuse to stop for a minute.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2017, 11:31:22 am »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.

Amen. Go Hogs!
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2017, 11:46:04 am »

6-6 means no real change.

We can lose out and Beilema is still going to be our coach next year.  You know it, I know it.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #21 on: October 31, 2017, 11:48:29 am »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.

Thanks for the advice, Lanny.  Football weekends are for fun.  I plan to enjoy this one and will worry about the bengal [CENSORED] cats when the time comes.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2017, 01:05:11 pm »

That's the spirit!

Can't make the Homecoming game, but really looking forward to the Mississippi State weekend. Chilly, probably an afternoon (or 11 AM) game. The Dawgs may be one of the best 2-3 teams on our schedule, so not sure how optimistic I'll be. Just hoping for a good, competitive game, maybe a surprise or 2, tailgating with friends and family. WPS!
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2017, 01:10:31 pm »

Watching those youngsters celebrating their win at Ole Miss Saturday caused me to re-focus on the very core of our football team, the players.  As fans we tend to ignore the tremendous toll it takes on a football team's psyche to have a down season like this one.  It was good to see them get that win and the players deserve our support and encouragement every game.

As for the future:  Que será, será
No doubt. The dancing around in the post game locker room was genuine joy for the guys. Nice to see.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2017, 01:16:40 pm »

We can lose out and Beilema is still going to be our coach next year.  You know it, I know it.

I accept you're using a bit of hyperbole there for effect, so I hope this doesn't come across as snark or low-level bickering.

1. A loss to Mississippi would have forced change.

2. A loss to Coastal will force change. The only way that happens is if both the starters and backups decide to play sabotage -- a.k.a. ain't gonna happen.

3. Failure to make a bowl would make change likely - but not certain.

4. Securing a bowl waiver makes retention a very real possibility.

5. Securing a bowl invitation without caveat (>= 6 wins) makes retention likely.


That's how I see it objectively. I guess those that accept this premise can decide what would be best for the team and the program and which factors have more weight.

To paraphrase Neil Peart, I suppose, one could choose not to decide, but they still have made a choice.

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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2017, 01:19:31 pm »

I accept you're using a bit of hyperbole there for effect, so I hope this doesn't come across as snark or low-level bickering.

1. A loss to Mississippi would have forced change.

2. A loss to Coastal will force change. The only way that happens is if both the starters and backups decide to play sabotage -- a.k.a. ain't gonna happen.

3. Failure to make a bowl would make change likely - but not certain.

4. Securing a bowl waiver makes retention a very real possibility.

5. Securing a bowl invitation without caveat (>= 6 wins) makes retention likely.


That's how I see it objectively. I guess those that accepts this premise can decide what would be best for the team and the program and which factors have more weight.

To paraphrase Neil Peart, I suppose, one could choose not to decide, but they still have made a choice.

I am a huge RUSH fan and have read several of Neil's books. Thanks for the lyric reference from Freewill.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2017, 01:22:59 pm »

Under further review, the ruling on the forum is confirmed.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2017, 01:32:13 pm »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.

Let's hope so, they are 1-7 on the season and ranked 11th in the Sunbelt conference....  I will be at the game as well as the MS State and Mizzou games....  Maybe LEVY will step it up and improve the food and service  :) :)
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2017, 02:09:18 pm »

I accept you're using a bit of hyperbole there for effect, so I hope this doesn't come across as snark or low-level bickering.

1. A loss to Mississippi would have forced change.

2. A loss to Coastal will force change. The only way that happens is if both the starters and backups decide to play sabotage -- a.k.a. ain't gonna happen.

3. Failure to make a bowl would make change likely - but not certain.

4. Securing a bowl waiver makes retention a very real possibility.

5. Securing a bowl invitation without caveat (>= 6 wins) makes retention likely.


That's how I see it objectively. I guess those that accept this premise can decide what would be best for the team and the program and which factors have more weight.

To paraphrase Neil Peart, I suppose, one could choose not to decide, but they still have made a choice.

[Edit: fixed grammar]

You forgot about the 15 million buyout part that Arkansas will not be willing to pay, regardless of what happens in the win or loss column.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2017, 02:36:05 pm »

You forgot about the 15 million buyout part that Arkansas will not be willing to pay, regardless of what happens in the win or loss column.

So as it turns out the $15M meme was discarded when it started tying Long's judgement to Beilema's failure in the national press.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2017, 08:44:20 pm »

So as it turns out the $15M meme was discarded when it started tying Long's judgement to Beilema's failure in the national press.

I know we had the thread here about the contract buyout.  It was said that it was amended to the current buyout number.  I don't think anyone was able to present any evidence that disputed the fact he still has a 15 millie buyout.
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« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2017, 09:25:04 pm »

Yes Doctor, I could have, but I didn't.  I said what the hell I wanted to.  But I do value your opinion.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2017, 09:46:12 pm »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.

Amen!
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2017, 01:30:47 am »

I hope we win out, or at least win 3 of the next 4 and go bowling.

6-6 may not be stellar, but I still want to play in a bowl game.

There is going to a bowl, and there is not going to a bowl.  Kinda like to be or not to be.  We need the extra practice that comes with a bowl game.  And a bowl game is always exciting to watch.

Huh, I have watched a ton of bowl games that were anything but exciting to watch.  A team that doesn't even have a winning record has no freaking business playing in a bowl game.  Jesus this country actually used to be a example of excellence.  Now it is just a country slowly swirling down the drain.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2017, 01:53:38 am »

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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2017, 07:00:45 am »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.
So Arkansas going to pulverize CC Huh? Are they going to pulverize LSU, Miss.State, and Missouri too? If they do I promised I will enjoy the rest of the season.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2017, 03:32:43 pm »

WPS!
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2017, 03:42:51 pm »

Agreed; take it week by week and let's see what happens.  Besides, I don't see much point in making 15,000 threads about a new coach when we don't even have a vacancy yet.

This ^^^^!!  This gets to me more than anything, we certainly don't have a vacancy so why worry about getting a new coach when we still have a coach under contract?  Until this season is over, nothing is going to change, not even with the assistant coaches, we my as well sit back and watch these last few games and see how they play out.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2017, 07:57:47 pm »

Agreed; take it week by week and let's see what happens.  Besides, I don't see much point in making 15,000 threads about a new coach when we don't even have a vacancy yet.
sure we do, CBB and Long just don't know it yet.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2017, 04:11:45 pm »

I accept you're using a bit of hyperbole there for effect, so I hope this doesn't come across as snark or low-level bickering.

1. A loss to Mississippi would have forced change.

2. A loss to Coastal will force change. The only way that happens is if both the starters and backups decide to play sabotage -- a.k.a. ain't gonna happen.

3. Failure to make a bowl would make change likely - but not certain.

4. Securing a bowl waiver makes retention a very real possibility.

5. Securing a bowl invitation without caveat (>= 6 wins) makes retention likely.


That's how I see it objectively. I guess those that accept this premise can decide what would be best for the team and the program and which factors have more weight.

To paraphrase Neil Peart, I suppose, one could choose not to decide, but they still have made a choice.

[Edit: fixed grammar]

Well put. 

Complaining about Arkansas Football is the rule not the exception.

In a century and a quarter of Arkansas football EVERY fourth year there IS a coaching change year.  If the current coach is winning less than 2/3rds of his games this bumps up to a change every third year.  Given the discussion tends to lead the event by a year that means two out of every three years when Arkansas has a coach with a mediocre or poor record a dominant discussion topic will be the replacement of the coach.

There were a few surprises along the way, most notably Bowden Wyatt and Bobby Petrino but most coaching changes happen after the debate is well underway in the extreme case of HDN dragging on for a full five years.

If Long hires a winner (> 66.7%) you can exepct his average tenure to be 6 years which means about four years of peace before the grumbling begins in earnest.  No matter how good the coach it's always a reprieve though, never a permanent fix for the complaining.


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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2017, 04:22:58 pm »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.
While this is a nice thought and what should happen. I'm pretty sure the ship has sailed on , this season , in most peoples eyes. Once we lost to USCj  there was no going back.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2017, 04:24:18 pm »

I know we had the thread here about the contract buyout.  It was said that it was amended to the current buyout number.  I don't think anyone was able to present any evidence that disputed the fact he still has a 15 millie buyout.

The buyout is between 5 and 6 Million.

I agree with Lanny. I'm going to enjoy the Game Saturday and worry about a possible coaching change later.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2017, 04:30:22 pm »

I'll be in my seat as always at every home game calling those hogs.


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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2017, 04:30:40 pm »

I enjoy every win, no matter the score or opponent.  My grandmother only was only able to listen to the Hogs on the radio back in the day as she lived way out in the boonies and couldn't see well.  Although she was a die hard Hog fan, she seldom seemed to let a loss get her down.  She told me once that she was glad just to be able to hear them play because she never knew when the time would come and she wouldn't be able to... Hog fan through and through from Solgohachia. 
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #45 on: November 02, 2017, 04:50:36 pm »

Here is one source confirming 5.9 mil...https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/8/16442824/bret-bielema-arkansas-football-buyout-record


How in the heck is that confirmation? They probably got it by reading the ADG or Hogville.............................
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #46 on: November 02, 2017, 04:50:57 pm »

The buyout is between 5 and 6 Million.

What's your buyout?
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2017, 04:52:27 pm »

This ^^^^!!  we certainly don't have a vacancy so why worry about getting a new coach when we still have a coach under contract?

Ever buy insurance?

we my as well sit back and watch these last few games and see how they play out.

CBB's has had 59 games to demonstrate his ability, but we're going to let the last 4 decide his fate?
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2017, 04:54:46 pm »

CBB's has had 59 games to demonstrate his ability, but we're going to let the last 4 decide his fate?

That's the way it works sometimes.
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Re: Let's enjoy the rest of the football season
« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2017, 04:56:19 pm »

Arkansas will pulverize Coastal Carolina this week.  I would like to see the fans support the football team and wait until the end of the season for new coach discussion.


Great suggestion! I agree totally!!
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