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If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« on: October 25, 2017, 09:27:16 pm »

If USF and UCF are both undefeated and ranked top 10 when they play each other for the final game of the year, can we just use that as an elimination game and hire the winning coach?
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2017, 09:29:01 pm »

If USF and UCF are both undefeated and ranked top 10 when they play each other for the final game of the year, can we just use that as an elimination game and hire the winning coach?

What makes you think either one wants to go to Fayetteville?
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2017, 09:30:03 pm »

What makes you think either one wants to go to Fayetteville?

What makes you think they don't?
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 09:31:49 pm »

What makes you think they don't?

Have you ever been to Tampa and Orlando, and then compared it to Fayetteville? I would argue those two jobs, even though they are not high profile, are better jobs.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2017, 09:33:06 pm »

What makes you think they don't?

I asked you first.  :)
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2017, 09:35:44 pm »

Have you ever been to Tampa and Orlando, and then compared it to Fayetteville? I would argue those two jobs, even though they are not high profile, are better jobs.

And Florida doesn't have a state income tax.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2017, 09:36:30 pm »

And Florida doesn't have a state income tax.

But they have hurricanes....and lots of weird people.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2017, 09:37:49 pm »

What makes you think they don't?
Titties. Lots and lots of nice titties down there.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2017, 09:39:56 pm »

But they have hurricanes....and lots of weird people.

And fertile recruiting grounds.  Oh, and titties.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2017, 09:40:12 pm »

But they have hurricanes....and lots of weird people.

Nope...mostly just me.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2017, 10:09:04 pm »

Have you ever been to Tampa and Orlando, and then compared it to Fayetteville? I would argue those two jobs, even though they are not high profile, are better jobs.

Maybe Im biased but Id pick Fayetteville over those two spots any day.

But I also really enjoy the outdoors and dont care to be in proximity to a large city.

Moved to Bentonville from Memphis and nowhere Id rather be. We actually turned down an opportunity in Pensacola to move up here as well as other locations.

Different strokes though.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2017, 10:20:25 pm »

 Why would Charlie Strong take this job. He's getting paid around 5 million per year now. The man is 57 years old. He's probably just trying to make it for another 3-5 seasons before he retires.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2017, 10:27:47 pm »

If USF and UCF are both undefeated and ranked top 10 when they play each other for the final game of the year, can we just use that as an elimination game and hire the winning coach?

I like it, make it an exciting game for hog fans, maybe have a #555-7,
Under the picture of the cordinators so we could vote for them like on the voice.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2017, 10:33:27 pm »

If USF and UCF are both undefeated and ranked top 10 when they play each other for the final game of the year, can we just use that as an elimination game and hire the winning coach?
I always find this humorous.  This team that does not have an sec schedule is undefeated.  What would their record be if they played our schedule?  Easy answer it would be crap as well. 

Picking a coach that is better than other bad coaches is not a path for success
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2017, 10:49:36 pm »

I always find this humorous.  This team that does not have an sec schedule is undefeated.  What would their record be if they played our schedule?  Easy answer it would be crap as well. 

Picking a coach that is better than other bad coaches is not a path for success

But that's the thing. It doesn't matter that they don't play in the SEC or play a SEC schedule. That only matters to SEC first people. It doesn't matter to Oklahoma or Oklahoma state.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2017, 11:08:14 pm »

Titties. Lots and lots of nice titties down there.

If you don't think Fayetteville has nice titties, too, you're doing it wrong...

Oh, wait, well, I do agree in Orlando you see them daily for like 9 months out of the year but still...
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2017, 07:07:31 am »

I always find this humorous.  This team that does not have an sec schedule is undefeated.  What would their record be if they played our schedule?  Easy answer it would be crap as well. 

Picking a coach that is better than other bad coaches is not a path for success

If we are only allowed to pick coaches from the SEC, our list of candidates shrinks considerably.

You have to realize that most good coaches prove themselves in smaller conferences before moving up.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2017, 07:08:01 am »

Why would Charlie Strong take this job. He's getting paid around 5 million per year now.

That is part of the appeal. The shorthorns would be paying half his salary for him to win here.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2017, 09:05:23 am »

The spin for Charlie Strong to be our coach was extremely predictable. Senior laden team that was set up for a winning season and all of the sudden he's a hot commodity.

Bielema could've coached that team to a winning record this year.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2017, 09:11:13 am »

What makes you think either one wants to go to Fayetteville?
because it's a top 5 place to live with a vastly superior university?

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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2017, 09:16:51 am »

Have you ever been to Tampa and Orlando, and then compared it to Fayetteville? I would argue those two jobs, even though they are not high profile, are better jobs.

Lot less stress too. I've talked to more than a few fans of both programs. They're just happy to be here. It's a far cry from Hogville, tbh. (That's not a criticism of those who expect more. I expect more, too)

Depends on what these guys want, I guess. If they want to roll the dice and compete against the best, then maybe they'd be interested. If they just want to make a very good living doing what they love, I can't see any reason why they'd want to come here.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2017, 10:49:22 am »

Lot less stress too. I've talked to more than a few fans of both programs. They're just happy to be here. It's a far cry from Hogville, tbh. (That's not a criticism of those who expect more. I expect more, too)

Depends on what these guys want, I guess. If they want to roll the dice and compete against the best, then maybe they'd be interested. If they just want to make a very good living doing what they love, I can't see any reason why they'd want to come here.


You bring up a good point that gets swept under the rug at times, the competitive nature of these guys. People gripe about the ego of some coaches, but if a man doesn't believe deep down in his soul, that he can recruit, teach,prepare, motivate, and game plan, as good as anybody in college football, then has no business being in SEC.

CBB found out the hard way that he is not at that level, nothing against the guy, he just came up too short in too many of those categories.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2017, 12:54:49 pm »

because it's a top 5 place to live with a vastly superior university?

The football team isn't vastly superior, thus the question.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2017, 12:57:04 pm »

because it's a top 5 place to live with a vastly superior university?

What makes U of A a "vastly superior university?"

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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2017, 01:02:53 pm »

What makes U of A a "vastly superior university?"

Our 11th place in the SEC in graduation rates among football players...

Or whatever it is we're 11th place in academically...
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2017, 01:35:06 pm »

Our 11th place in the SEC in graduation rates among football players...

Or whatever it is we're 11th place in academically...

Hey, mister, don't mention those numbers without pointing out they are an improvement.  Them's the rules.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2017, 01:36:09 pm »

Hey, mister, don't mention those numbers without pointing out they are an improvement.  Them's the rules.

mia culpa... let's just say we're 11th place and not specify that it's 11th in the SEC. Some may think it's in regards to NCAA FBS teams...
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2017, 06:22:20 am »

Have you ever been to Tampa and Orlando, and then compared it to Fayetteville? I would argue those two jobs, even though they are not high profile, are better jobs.

I live in Orlando, and I can guarantee you 90% of the people in this town don't even know UCF is ranked. The schools lets out classes on gameday and give out free tickets with 60k students enrolled, has hundreds of thousands of alumni, have 2 million+ living in its metro, are undefeated, and they still can't fill up their 44k stadium. And USF is probably lesser than UCF these days.
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Re: If USF and UCF are both undefeated when they play each other...
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2017, 05:21:37 am »

I live in Orlando, and I can guarantee you 90% of the people in this town don't even know UCF is ranked. The schools lets out classes on gameday and give out free tickets with 60k students enrolled, has hundreds of thousands of alumni, have 2 million+ living in its metro, are undefeated, and they still can't fill up their 44k stadium. And USF is probably lesser than UCF these days.

That's not what he said. He said are better jobs. And when you consider the recruiting base and getting kids and athletes on campus it is a much better situation to be in Florida than the middle of no where.  Sure they barely beat out the big 3 in recruiting but they get kids that the bigger schools want to make switch positions or just get overlooked because they are after someone they consider a better fit.

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