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BigK_HogHeaven

There's been a lot of talk about lack of player development both by Bielema and by the fans and media.  Let's take a look at Bielema's list of signed 4 stars (according to ESPN recruiting rankings)... At least half of these recruits either are not on the team or do not have significant roles.  Lack of development is 100% on CBB and his staff.

Name           Year
Brian Wallace   2014
Jojo Robinson   2014
Rafe Peavey   2014
Frank Ragnow   2014
Froholdt           2015
Will Gragg           2015
Jalen Merrick   2015
Dominique Reed   2015
Zach Rogers   2015
Ty Storey            2015
Josh Allen           2015
O'Grady           2015
J Ledbetter   2015
L Pettway           2015
Jamario Bell   2015
Briston Guidry   2016
Jake Heinrich   2016
McTelvin Agim   2016
Devwah Whaley   2016
TJ Hammonds   2016
Austin Capps   2016
Jordan Jones   2016
Cole Kelley   2016

smb

Now this is a good subject we should all be talking about. Good post. Thanks for keeping to what really matters.
GeorgiaHOG

 

BigK_HogHeaven

Quote from: BigK_HogHeaven on October 12, 2017, 10:55:12 am
There's been a lot of talk about lack of player development both by Bielema and by the fans and media.  Let's take a look at Bielema's list of signed 4 stars (according to ESPN recruiting rankings)... At least half of these recruits either are not on the team or do not have significant roles.  Lack of development is 100% on CBB and his staff.

EDITED TO INCLUDE 2013 RECRUITING CLASS

Name           Year
Alex Collins       2013
Hunter Henry    2013
Denver Kirkland 2013
Brooks Ellis       2013
Austin Allen      2013
Brian Wallace   2014
Jojo Robinson   2014
Rafe Peavey   2014
Frank Ragnow   2014
Froholdt           2015
Will Gragg           2015
Jalen Merrick   2015
Dominique Reed   2015
Zach Rogers   2015
Ty Storey            2015
Josh Allen           2015
O'Grady           2015
J Ledbetter   2015
L Pettway           2015
Jamario Bell   2015
Briston Guidry   2016
Jake Heinrich   2016
McTelvin Agim   2016
Devwah Whaley   2016
TJ Hammonds   2016
Austin Capps   2016
Jordan Jones   2016
Cole Kelley   2016

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

Quote from: BigK_HogHeaven on October 12, 2017, 10:55:12 am
There's been a lot of talk about lack of player development both by Bielema and by the fans and media.  Let's take a look at Bielema's list of signed 4 stars (according to ESPN recruiting rankings)... At least half of these recruits either are not on the team or do not have significant roles.  Lack of development is 100% on CBB and his staff.

Name           Year
Brian Wallace   2014
Jojo Robinson   2014
Rafe Peavey   2014
Frank Ragnow   2014
Froholdt           2015
Will Gragg           2015
Jalen Merrick   2015
Dominique Reed   2015
Zach Rogers   2015
Ty Storey            2015
Josh Allen           2015
O'Grady           2015
J Ledbetter   2015
L Pettway           2015
Jamario Bell   2015
Briston Guidry   2016
Jake Heinrich   2016
McTelvin Agim   2016
Devwah Whaley   2016
TJ Hammonds   2016
Austin Capps   2016
Jordan Jones   2016
Cole Kelley   2016
Whats sad is that isn't even all of them
That's right, you don't want to be the man to replace the man.  You want to be the man to replace Rory Segrest.

jcbville

Behind the scenes the biggest indictment of CBB is this. And the most talked about reason why is that for some reason after 2015 CBB lost his edge. It happens. Many theories as to why he has are discussed. His health, he got too complacent, too much freedom to his assistants...combination of all.

Boss Hog in the Arkansas

Add bijhon Jackson, Jake Raulerson, Chevin Calloway, Montaric Brown, Brandon martin, and Jeremy patton
That's right, you don't want to be the man to replace the man.  You want to be the man to replace Rory Segrest.

razorbackfaninar

I heard them trotting out the old drum beat this morning " This team just doesn't have any talent"  That is verifiably incorrect if anyone would just take the time to look. There is a lot of talent on this team a lot of high end talent .  It is being utilized ineffectively

jkstock04

Quote from: razorbackfaninar on October 12, 2017, 01:46:34 pm
I heard them trotting out the old drum beat this morning " This team just doesn't have any talent"  That is verifiably incorrect if anyone would just take the time to look. There is a lot of talent on this team a lot of high end talent .  It is being utilized ineffectively
It's a major deflection and defense of the pro Bielema people. He just hasn't been lucky enough to get the same caliber of recruits our previous coaches have.
Thanks for the F Shack. 

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Dirty Mike and the Boys

BigK_HogHeaven

Quote from: razorbackfaninar on October 12, 2017, 01:46:34 pm
I heard them trotting out the old drum beat this morning " This team just doesn't have any talent"  That is verifiably incorrect if anyone would just take the time to look. There is a lot of talent on this team a lot of high end talent .  It is being utilized ineffectively

Exactly. No lack of talent. I would like to know how many 4 stars are on this team compared to historic Razorback teams. That'd be a good indicator of how much talent we have on paper

AugustaHog

Quote from: razorbackfaninar on October 12, 2017, 01:46:34 pm
I heard them trotting out the old drum beat this morning " This team just doesn't have any talent"  That is verifiably incorrect if anyone would just take the time to look. There is a lot of talent on this team a lot of high end talent .  It is being utilized ineffectively
My response to that statement, even if it is false, is simply:  "Who is responsible for getting said talent?"  In year 5, we still don't have talent?  What is going to occur if we give you 2 more years?  Regression.

kodiakisland

Even if talent is an issue, you over come it with coaching and scheme.  We apparently aren't doing either and are happy to blame it all on the players.
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Silver Hog

Quote from: jkstock04 on October 12, 2017, 01:48:46 pm
It's a major deflection and defense of the pro Bielema people. He just hasn't been lucky enough to get the same caliber of recruits our previous coaches have.
Which doesn't jive at all that Bobby was a bad recruiter. One other the other is true, they cannot both be true.
Either Bobby recruited as well as Bert, or Bobby is just a better coach with lesser talent.