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Future Buyouts
« on: October 08, 2017, 09:50:38 am »

We as a fan base need to make it crystal clear to the leadership structure that we will not tolerate another buyout debacle. IMO unless you clearly have a top 5 coach, or are a very large national program, you do not offer a buyout that can’t easily be paid at the time of termination. It’s a horrible trend we shouldn’t participate in. I would much rather pay more on the front end ie salary if money is the issue. As for security, I think we have seen what happens when you give that to a coach.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2017, 10:07:46 am »

We as a fan base don't get to make these decisions, lol.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2017, 10:11:46 am »

We as a fan base don't get to make these decisions, lol.

I agree that our impact isn’t as large as others, but we are the customer and with the help of local and national media, our point can be communicated.

I may be mistaken, but I also believe that people in the power structure read hogville and if they see consensus or a well thought out presentation it will impact them.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2017, 10:28:17 am »

I agree the buyout is a problem, but if the price of a top coach is a buyout, we'll have to pay it, or settle of someone way down the list.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2017, 10:34:36 am »

I agree the buyout is a problem, but if the price of a top coach is a buyout, we'll have to pay it, or settle of someone way down the list.

I kind of view it as NFL vs NBA type contracts for players. In the NFL you may get a large signing bonus or annual contract number, but your contract may not be renewed if there are issues. In the NBA you have a guaranteed contract, so the length of the contract is most important.

I am also not aware of NFL coaches negotiating these buyouts into their contracts.

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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2017, 11:01:20 am »

CBB's buyout wasn't a problem at first. It's the extension that bites us
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2017, 11:05:42 am »

We as a fan base don't get to make these decisions, lol.

I respectfully disagree wholeheartedly.  We as donors/fans/ticketholders have the very loudest voice.  We buy memorabilia, we pay for hotel rooms in NWAR , frequent restaurants in NWAR.  We frequent those businesses that broadcast both on the radio and tv shows.  There are a large number of people who make their living from the Razorbacks.  That has impact on a number of other voices that add to ours.  We speak with our wallets.  The powers at the University know this. 
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2017, 11:11:10 am »

I respectfully disagree wholeheartedly.  We as donors/fans/ticketholders have the very loudest voice.  We buy memorabilia, we pay for hotel rooms in NWAR , frequent restaurants in NWAR.  We frequent those businesses that broadcast both on the radio and tv shows.  There are a large number of people who make their living from the Razorbacks.  That has impact on a number of other voices that add to ours.  We speak with our wallets.  The powers at the University know this. 

Are you going to boycott WM, Stephens Capital, Downstream Casino, etc??? Sure, if enough decide not to go, but many support the university, team, and players, I doubt a significant number of fans will forego attending to make that big of a difference.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2017, 11:35:26 am »

Are you going to boycott WM, Stephens Capital, Downstream Casino, etc??? Sure, if enough decide not to go, but many support the university, team, and players, I doubt a significant number of fans will forego attending to make that big of a difference.
I bet there were more in attendance in the New Mexico State game(which was not good) than there will be against Auburn(even though it's a conference game).   The attendance will be poorer and poorer as the season goes along. 
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2017, 11:47:00 am »

I kind of view it as NFL vs NBA type contracts for players. In the NFL you may get a large signing bonus or annual contract number, but your contract may not be renewed if there are issues. In the NBA you have a guaranteed contract, so the length of the contract is most important.

I am also not aware of NFL coaches negotiating these buyouts into their contracts.
annual contracts would never work in college... no Asst coaches would ever come to coach and what recruit would ever agree to come under those circumstances ? 
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2017, 11:47:15 am »

I bet there were more in attendance in the New Mexico State game(which was not good) than there will be against Auburn(even though it's a conference game).   The attendance will be poorer and poorer as the season goes along. 

Tickets are already bought for this year, so it won't have as much of an impact.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2017, 11:53:12 am »

annual contracts would never work in college... no Asst coaches would ever come to coach and what recruit would ever agree to come under those circumstances ?

I don’t think that it necessarily has to be an annual contract, can the terms of a buyout not be set to a lower number from the start? I think many coaches would take a three year guaranteed contract.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2017, 12:41:08 pm »

Tickets are already bought for this year, so it won't have as much of an impact.
Oh it will have an impact on recruiting and the current mentally of our players.  Look for coaches to start jumping ship.
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2017, 03:08:40 pm »

Oh it will have an impact on recruiting and the current mentally of our players.  Look for coaches to start jumping ship.

So, coaches are going to forego their paychecks for the rest of the season and leave?
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Re: Future Buyouts
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2017, 03:15:38 pm »

Oh it will have an impact on recruiting and the current mentally of our players.  Look for coaches to start jumping ship.


Lol.
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