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UNC COI results and punishment.
« on: October 05, 2017, 10:11:37 am »

https://twitter.com/_andrewcarter/status/915928036775735298

Final Report from the COI including penalties coming tomorrow at noon teleconference at 1 est time.

Time for the NCAA to either roll over or show it has the guts to punish one of its powerhouses.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 11:03:05 am »

I see light penalties for unc
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 11:08:02 am »

I see light penalties for unc

If so, I would like to see the FBI literally police college sports full time for five or ten years. No need for taxpayer money, just take a percentage of TV revenues.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 11:08:35 am »

I'd be shocked if they get anything more than a sternly worded warning.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2017, 11:08:51 am »

I see light penalties for unc

Truthfully I do too. It is suspicious that they are announcing on a Friday before a football weekend so the news will get buried quickly.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2017, 11:10:49 am »

I'd be shocked if they get anything more than a sternly worded warning.

The warning will be ghost written by Roy Williams under a pseudonym.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2017, 11:20:54 am »

I see UNC just got a 5-star commitment today.  6-6 small forward, Nasir Little.  ESPN has him ranked #14 in the class.  Could be a sign that a hand slap is expected.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2017, 11:25:02 am »

Honestly if UNC gets away with a hand slap I think the time has come to do away with the NCAA and form another organization that actually works for all members.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2017, 11:31:07 am »

NCAA was very harsh in their response to UNC's position.

Let's see if they follow through. I have my doubts after I thought Louisville got off pretty unscathed for their hooker scandal
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2017, 12:21:28 pm »

Due to scheduling circumstances, there will be no release tomorrow regarding the NCAA Committee on Infractions decision. We have not yet received the Committee’s public infractions report. We anticipate we will be informed 24 hours prior to the actual release at a later date.”
– Vice Chancellor of University Communications Joel Curran, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

Looks like tomorrow release is off now.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2017, 12:33:59 pm »

The NCAA is so mad they may place UNC Greensboro under probation.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2017, 12:46:24 pm »

I'd love to see a school like UNC get the death penalty.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2017, 01:27:12 pm »

I see UNC just got a 5-star commitment today.  6-6 small forward, Nasir Little.  ESPN has him ranked #14 in the class.  Could be a sign that a hand slap is expected.

I am surprised at that. I thought Nassir was perhaps a player mixed up in the FBI probe in connection to the recruiter at Arizona. He was also on that shady trip to Aruba with Reggie Perry, EJ Montgomery, and many others that was "sponsored" by Adidas.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2017, 11:14:56 pm »

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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2017, 07:06:09 am »

Honestly if UNC gets away with a hand slap I think the time has come to do away with the NCAA and form another organization that actually works for all members.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2017, 11:00:54 am »

I really dislike these turds.  Especially after the way we were screwed in March madness to them!  I thought they were quite arrogant in their arguments to the NCaa about their cheating.  As far back as this case went 18yrs supposedly!  And as much money that was spent on this case , if the Ncaaonly gives UNC a slap, then it should just quit doing anything because it is a complete joke!  They deserve no post season, NC trophy erased,  a lot of schollies cut, leave them with about 5 and the rest walkons, that'll send a message to basketball.  No TV would be great as well. What would hurt them most is to hurt their basketball team, cuz they have nothing else other than field hockey.  Seems like they had a good baseball team that got ousted. But other than that, nothing. Again , they deserve to have all this happen to them, let us hope that they get it!  Because if they dont, it'll just prove that you can get away with a lot.  I could see how with what happened with the FBI, that in light of that, that perhaps the NCAA will bring the hammer!  But, we'll just have to wait and see.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2017, 12:43:23 pm »

I expect UNC to get hit fairly hard.
I share the same skepticism since this is a true blue-blood program, but I do think they will get hit with fairly significant penalties.
The kicker will be if they have to miss the NCAA for one or more years. For an elite program, that is a real punishment, since they're in it every year.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2017, 01:20:24 pm »

I see light penalties for unc

No, heavy penalties.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2017, 03:03:34 pm »

They really deserve the death penalty. This is the largest academic cheating scandal of all time, and it was for multiple sports.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2017, 05:37:56 am »

Truthfully I do too. It is suspicious that they are announcing on a Friday before a football weekend so the news will get buried quickly.

There are 364 other days in the year and someone would find it suspicious if they announced it on any of those................
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2017, 07:36:55 am »

The NCAA is so mad they may place UNC Greensboro under probation.

How original.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2017, 10:51:27 am »

How original.
true. But we will see if UNC catches what they should.
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Re: UNC COI results and punishment.
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 10:07:37 am »

https://twitter.com/jgravleyWRAL/status/918491997027135488
Multiple sources tell me the COI will release their findings on @UNC NCAA investigation tomorrow. Friday the 13th. #wral.

From a North Carolina sportscaster seems like tomorrow is finally the day.
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9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2017, 07:56:55 am »

https://scout.com/college/north-carolina/Article/Podcast-Greg-Jason-Preview-UNC-vs-Virginia-108827613

In a little over an hour we will find out if the NCAA has the balls to punish UNC.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2017, 08:25:13 am »

would they strip this year's natty?
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2017, 09:08:12 am »

Cool story!   :puke:
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2017, 09:09:53 am »

Reading through it Nothing but a show cause for one staffer no penalties for UNC.  NCAA is dropping the case. Color me shocked. :puke:
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2017, 09:10:56 am »

So technically, they are announcing no punishment for UNC.

The schools don't even have to pretend to educate athletes anymore.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2017, 09:12:42 am »

So technically, they are announcing no punishment for UNC.

The schools don't even have to pretend to educate athletes anymore.
Yeah. Lets all set up fake classes. Apparently the NCAA has no problems with it as long as you allow non athletes to take them too. 
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2017, 09:28:54 am »

And they wonder why the FBI didn't let them know about their investigation. NCAA is just as crooked as the shoe companies bribing the athletes.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2017, 09:46:49 am »

And they wonder why the FBI didn't let them know about their investigation. NCAA is just as crooked as the shoe companies bribing the athletes.
Row inthe rating services
That's my take. School Presidents need to ban together and form another organization. Something is rotten in Denmark, and it all has to do with money. Throw in the rating services as well.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2017, 09:51:12 am »

who didn't see this coming? i sure did they used Kentucky's loop hole.

Because "other non athlete students benefited" it is not an infraction.  This is just like Kentucky letting student managers for the bball team live in the Basketball player "Lodge".

the NCAA only cares about specific benefits exclusively for the athlete.  If the school spreads the wealth to even 1 non athlete student then they pass the buck to the "academic" side to punish or not to punish for "academic fraud" and well that will be a long wait for a boat that won't come they are not going to punish each other for something like "providing easy courses so people stay enrolled".

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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2017, 09:53:40 am »

Row inthe rating services
That's my take. School Presidents need to ban together and form another organization. Something is rotten in Denmark, and it all has to do with money. Throw in the rating services as well.

Schools are complicit. UNC wouldn't cooperate because they didn't have to since the NCAA has no subpoena power.  The NCAA only has the power its members give it.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2017, 10:00:24 am »

FBI will be putting this on their to do list
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2017, 10:14:39 am »

NCAA rulings that make you scratch your head:
- Suspended DeVier Posey for 5 games over $3.07
- Suspended USF kicker for making money off of his own youtube channel that was established before he went to college
- Wont penalize UNC for putting athletes in classes that never met (didn't exist)
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2017, 10:16:04 am »

This whole case shows that a scholarship doesn't always equal an education. That means the NCAA's entire "student athlete" system is based on a lie
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2017, 10:16:57 am »

NCAA rulings that make you scratch your head:
- Suspended DeVier Posey for 5 games over $3.07
- Suspended USF kicker for making money off of his own youtube channel that was established before he went to college
- Wont penalize UNC for putting athletes in classes that never met (didn't exist)

Barely punished Penn St for covering up child rape including the head coach. 
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2017, 10:27:59 am »

NCAA rulings that make you scratch your head:
- Suspended DeVier Posey for 5 games over $3.07
- Suspended USF kicker for making money off of his own youtube channel that was established before he went to college
- Wont penalize UNC for putting athletes in classes that never met (didn't exist)

you can see it in your examples.  NCAA basically said if you do not restrict the privilege or benefit to athletes then there is nothing to see here.

This is of course the benefit provided by the school. 

So build all the fancy dorms you want as long as at least one token non athlete lives there it is no problem.  Become the Graduate school destination for people who want to major in underwater basketweaving as long as the courses are not restricted to athletes only.

It is sad, it is basically more of the "online/sham" universities turning something that once meant something into nothing.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2017, 10:30:15 am »

Meh, it was a really hard leg to stand on for NCAA. Not all higher education's are an even playing ground as is. Really it's up to the school to decide their standard of education. It's a shame UNC has decided to lower theirs.

NCAA had a strong response letter back to UNC. Because of that I thought they may make a statement...... and they did. They are powerless
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2017, 10:46:25 am »

Nothing very complicated about this.

Money talks -- and really strongly with the pathetic NCAA.

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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2017, 11:01:05 am »

you can see it in your examples.  NCAA basically said if you do not restrict the privilege or benefit to athletes then there is nothing to see here.

This is of course the benefit provided by the school. 

So build all the fancy dorms you want as long as at least one token non athlete lives there it is no problem.  Become the Graduate school destination for people who want to major in underwater basketweaving as long as the courses are not restricted to athletes only.

It is sad, it is basically more of the "online/sham" universities turning something that once meant something into nothing.
Are you saying my degree from DeVry was a waste of time?!  :)
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2017, 11:15:54 am »

not surprised. they were not going to take down another acc/icon school. ncaa is a sham. every president & athletic director should be pissed at this ruling.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2017, 11:33:23 am »

what a load of horse crap
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2017, 11:42:50 am »

Based on their ruling, could a school give every basketball signee $100k as long as they also give the same amount to the water boy?

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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2017, 02:20:26 pm »

UNC spent $18M to defend their case. Money talks.
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2017, 02:42:37 pm »

UNC spent $18M to defend their case. Money talks.
Damn.....
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Re: 9am today NCAA announces punishment for UNC.
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2017, 02:47:15 pm »

funny that the sec commissioner was the head of the committee. guess he was afraid of repercussions from the acc.
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