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JaketheSnake

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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #200 on: October 06, 2017, 09:56:54 pm »

I don't disagree with you that fans can tend to get impatient...but what we've experienced in the past few years at Arkansas under Bert is unique.

For instance, losses to inferior opponents, second half collapses, numerous 50+ blowout losses (the most recent in his 4th year) and the fact that he is 0-5 against a historical rival are all things that make our situation a little bit different, wouldn't you say?
Not disagreeing with this at all.  But if/when we can him, we all know there is no anonymous choice to replace, so a small percentage of the fan base is already against him.  Then he loses a game and that number grows, and the original haters come on here touting  that they saw this coming, yada yada yada.  We need to be more patient.  Is 5 years enough to really rebuild a program in bad shape?  I don't get paid enough to answer that. Will it be after CBB is gone? 
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #201 on: October 07, 2017, 09:55:34 am »

johnny football worked against bama along with incredible luck. throwing the ball every down is not innovative so quit using that word.

Well if you watch more than just Arkansas football, the word “innovative” is used when discussing how the “better” offensive coaches take advantage of motion, known mismatches, creativity in running sets, and how to put an offense in a position to benefit from their strengths against a defense’s weaknesses.  My post had nothing to do with throwing the ball every down as there are ZERO teams in CFB or the NFL that throw the ball every down.  Some teams throw to enable running and some run to enable throwing.  I don’t have a preference either way as long as it works.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #202 on: October 07, 2017, 09:59:11 am »

While we are being honest versus our usually dishonest nature here, Hogville will turn into Meltdown Central if the Hogs lose to this bad SC team. And winning this game will not make Bielema's job any more secure but losing it will certainly secure the loss of his current job at season's end.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #203 on: October 07, 2017, 10:05:39 am »

Oh, and I’ll say it again, I think we win today and should win all but 2 remaining games.  If not, I’ll keep my pitch fork sharp!  WPS!!!  You see, I’m a fan of the Hogs, not ANY coach with a 10-23 conference record, like a lot on the site!  Some are so wrapped up in a man crush with the coach that they are willing to sacrifice our beloved Hogs for him.  Just being honest!
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #204 on: October 07, 2017, 10:10:25 am »

While we are being honest versus our usually dishonest nature here, Hogville will turn into Meltdown Central if the Hogs lose to this bad SC team. And winning this game will not make Bielema's job any more secure but losing it will certainly secure the loss of his current job at season's end.
Well, well I honestly can't believe that you and I are actually agreeing on something for a (huge) change. I suppose that means that indeed miracles DO still happen. ;)
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #205 on: October 07, 2017, 10:18:52 am »

Oh, and I’ll say it again, I think we win today and should win all but 2 remaining games.  If not, I’ll keep my pitch fork sharp!  WPS!!!  You see, I’m a fan of the Hogs, not ANY coach with a 10-23 conference record, like a lot on the site!  Some are so wrapped up in a man crush with the coach that they are willing to sacrifice our beloved Hogs for him.  Just being honest!
Sorry, but just because some of us want to see the coach, and this does NOT just mean CBB, succeed for the sake of the team and program this somehow classifies us as having a "man crush" on said individual? I have no particular personal feelings, except he seems to be a pretty nice guy, concerning Bret. If he does well then obviously I'm happy and hope we can retain him as long as possible. However, it he doesn't then it very well may be time to move on. In the meantime I'll continue to support my alma mater, team and staff (as I've always tried to do) because that's who we're working with at the moment. If that qualifies as a "man crush" in your eyes then so be it. However, if it does then I really could give a damn.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #206 on: October 07, 2017, 12:00:02 pm »

While we are being honest versus our usually dishonest nature here, Hogville will turn into Meltdown Central if the Hogs lose to this bad SC team. And winning this game will not make Bielema's job any more secure but losing it will certainly secure the loss of his current job at season's end.

no need to announce your intentions for next week. everyone here knows youre going to have hatesex with jeff and bret in every thread regardless of what happens today.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #207 on: October 07, 2017, 12:04:00 pm »

no need to announce your intentions for next week. everyone here knows youre going to have hatesex with jeff and bret in every thread regardless of what happens today.
One thing far more predictable than the sun rising in the east, setting in the west. Nice to know some things can most definitely be counted on no matter what.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #208 on: October 07, 2017, 12:49:58 pm »

They would have to repeat 2015 and close the season on a hot note. Won 6 of 7 in 2015.
After the Auburn game, it is certainly possible, considering the way LSU is playing. All those games are 'winnable'.
Do something like that and a lot of people would climb back on the wagon.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #209 on: October 07, 2017, 12:54:40 pm »

They would have to repeat 2015 and close the season on a hot note. Won 6 of 7 in 2015.
After the Auburn game, it is certainly possible, considering the way LSU is playing. All those games are 'winnable'.
Do something like that and a lot of people would climb back on the wagon.

3 or 4 wins this year will get Long fired for negotiating such a miserable deal.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #210 on: October 07, 2017, 04:00:46 pm »

3 or 4 wins this year will get Long fired for negotiating such a miserable deal.

Wish it would, but I doubt it. 
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #211 on: October 07, 2017, 04:45:36 pm »

These two teams may be worst in SEC. I just spent an entire weekend watching first half of this game. I've been more entertained watching grass grow. These two teams are horrible in every phase and area of the game. Do they even practice?
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #212 on: October 07, 2017, 04:47:56 pm »

These two teams may be worst in SEC. I just spent an entire weekend watching first half of this game. I've been more entertained watching grass grow. These two teams are horrible in every phase and area of the game. Do they even practice?

Just texted my brother the same thing...this game is an exercise in futility.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #213 on: October 07, 2017, 04:52:02 pm »

We will get the requisite ‘rearranging of the deck chairs’ in terms of a few position coach changes then rinse and repeat for 2018.
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Re: If we are being Honest...
« Reply #214 on: October 07, 2017, 04:57:58 pm »

Winning, regardless of how it occurs is the most measurable of all concepts.

Win 9 and the masses are on board.

Win 8 and the masses are, "what if"? Despite the fact that this is who we are as a program over time since joining the SEC.

Many long for the results of the Petrino era but we honestly don't know what that might have produced over a more extended period of time.

Would they have been good with 7-8 wins for two years in a row and every other two years being 9, 10 or 11 wins? Probably.

Eventually, not getting to the SECCG would have been a measuring stick, but in the meantime, everyone would have been happy. But when it eventually came down to not getting to the SECCG everyone would have turned on Petrino as well. No one wants to admit that because we never reached that juncture and no one wants to admit the truth. But eventually, they would have turned on BP as well.

Let's face it, getting to the SECCG is the true measuring stick for this program just like it is for every other SEC program but it isn't likely that we will ever reach that point.
Even though he didn't make the SECCG CBP's teams were exciting to watch. This crap is not watchable most weeks. Fire Jeff Long!!
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