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The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« on: October 03, 2017, 10:11:43 pm »

Jim Harris, "Start playing Arkansas State and fill up the stadium for these games."

The host, "Jeff Long doesn't like to play in state competition."

Jim Harris, "There's an opening at Nebraska that Jeff Long needs to check in to."


Bruh
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2017, 11:09:15 pm »

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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2017, 11:13:45 pm »

Jim Harris, "Start playing Arkansas State and fill up the stadium for these games."

The host, "Jeff Long doesn't like to play in state competition."

Jim Harris, "There's an opening at Nebraska that Jeff Long needs to check in to."


Bruh

Who the hell is jim harris?
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2017, 11:19:45 pm »

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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2017, 11:22:45 pm »

Who the hell is jim harris?

Almost equals...

Who is Robert Shields?
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2017, 11:30:29 pm »

Who is Arkansas State?
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2017, 11:37:27 pm »

Almost equals...

Who is Robert Shields?

Hey, I was hoping it would inspire the GIF Masters to make an appearance.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2017, 11:50:30 pm »

play AState and keep our dollars in state
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2017, 06:06:28 am »

play AState and keep our dollars in state

Wrong and we've covered that many times.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2017, 06:15:31 am »

Jim Harris, "Start playing Arkansas State and fill up the stadium for these games."

The host, "Jeff Long doesn't like to play in state competition."

Jim Harris, "There's an opening at Nebraska that Jeff Long needs to check in to."


Bruh


Maybe Jim needs to check in on the opening at the Jonesboro Sun?
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2017, 07:41:18 am »

play AState and keep our dollars in state
When malzahn was there it may have been interesting but not now.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2017, 07:49:24 am »

Jim Harris, "Start playing Arkansas State and fill up the stadium for these games."

The host, "Jeff Long doesn't like to play in state competition."

Jim Harris, "There's an opening at Nebraska that Jeff Long needs to check in to."


Bruh


Stupid post!!
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2017, 08:00:37 am »

Jim Harris, "Start playing Arkansas State and fill up the stadium for these games."

The host, "Jeff Long doesn't like to play in state competition."

Jim Harris, "There's an opening at Nebraska that Jeff Long needs to check in to."


Bruh


This. Jim nailed it! He's exactly right
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2017, 08:13:10 am »

When malzahn was there it may have been interesting but not now.

I don't know that there was ever a time when FAMU or Alcorn St. were interesting.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2017, 08:16:36 am »

Stupid post!!

It’s not like I’m the one that said it moron
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2017, 08:18:16 am »

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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2017, 08:21:10 am »

This. Jim nailed it! He's exactly right
Man. That's some thinking outside the box right there. You'd think this might have been considered at some point.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2017, 08:24:42 am »

Wrong and we've covered that many times.

we may have covered it before but it should be done. 

its yet another black eye for the UA to look down upon AState, who plays other sec schools but is not allowed, not good enough, or insecurity to play the UA.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2017, 08:39:33 am »

We need to play ASTATE in LR and put this dog to rest.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2017, 08:39:38 am »


I don't see why some fans are so insecure about playing Arkansas State.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2017, 08:41:23 am »

I don't see why some fans are so insecure about playing Arkansas State.

I don't see why some fans are so hell-bent on playing Arkansas State.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2017, 08:47:16 am »

lets hear your good reasons why the UA should not play AState, ...anybody...
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2017, 08:49:12 am »

lets hear your good reasons why the UA should not play AState, ...anybody...

Guy I know in high school had to wrestle a girl at a wrestling meet.

It's a lose-lose.

You win? Congrats man, you wrestled a girl and won. (Congrats Hogs, you beat the state's stepchild.)
You lose? Dude. You just lost a wrestling match to a girl. (Hogs, you just got your ass beat by the state's stepchild.)

End scene.


Now, let's hear your "good" reasons as to why we should play the howlin' wolves of the northeast?
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2017, 08:49:22 am »

I don't know that there was ever a time when FAMU or Alcorn St. were interesting.

You know that's a false equivalency right?  If the argument were to play UAPB an FCS team that would be the right comparison.

The correct comparison would have been "I don't know if there was ever a time when Toledo, Troy, ULM, UTEP, were interesting" since they are G5 schools as is Astate."
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2017, 08:51:12 am »

Guy I know in high school had to wrestle a girl at a wrestling meet.

It's a lose-lose.

You win? Congrats man, you wrestled a girl and won. (Congrats Hogs, you beat the state's stepchild.)
You lose? Dude. You just lost a wrestling match to a girl. (Hogs, you just got your ass beat by the state's stepchild.)

End scene.


Now, let's hear your "good" reasons as to why we should play the howlin' wolves of the northeast?

^^^ This

but que 5 pages of ASU closet fans or just fans that want to see the UofA squirm and suffer .
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« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2017, 08:55:10 am »

Guy I know in high school had to wrestle a girl at a wrestling meet.

It's a lose-lose.

You win? Congrats man, you wrestled a girl and won. (Congrats Hogs, you beat the state's stepchild.)
You lose? Dude. You just lost a wrestling match to a girl. (Hogs, you just got your ass beat by the state's stepchild.)

End scene.


Now, let's hear your "good" reasons as to why we should play the howlin' wolves of the northeast?

your good reasons:
1. the UA is afraid they might loss to AState
2. it would be like playing our sister
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« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2017, 08:56:13 am »

You know that's a false equivalency right?  If the argument were to play UAPB an FCS team that would be the right comparison.

The correct comparison would have been "I don't know if there was ever a time when Toledo, Troy, ULM, UTEP, were interesting" since they are G5 schools as is Astate."

false equivalency
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2017, 08:56:19 am »

your good reasons:
1. the UA is afraid they might loss to AState
2. it would be like playing our sister

1. Never said I was afraid we might lose. I presented all possibilities for the sake of an argument.
2. Exactly. Would you wanna play your sister?
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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2017, 09:00:49 am »

1. Never said I was afraid we might lose. I presented all possibilities for the sake of an argument.
2. Exactly. Would you wanna play your sister?


okay i understand a fans perspective.   but loosing should not be a deterrent.   State plays P5 teams.

if my sister got paid $750,000, ...yes i would wrestle my sister
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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2017, 09:03:52 am »


okay i understand a fans perspective.   but loosing should not be a deterrent.   State plays P5 teams.

if my sister got paid $750,000, ...yes i would wrestle my sister

Wouldn't it be more like you paying $750,000 to wrestle your sister and you recouping none of that money? You're just paying to...wrestle your sister.

This is getting weird.
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« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2017, 09:12:46 am »

Wouldn't it be more like you paying $750,000 to wrestle your sister and you getting recouping none of that money? You're just paying to...wrestle your sister.

This is getting weird.

i think its all in state money.  if fans consider AState is a little sister, as your post suggested, its the wrong analogy in my opinion.  AState is a D1 school. from our state.  keep the money in state.
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« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2017, 09:14:24 am »

If you are scared of playing stAte, please remove Bama from the schedule.
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« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2017, 09:15:11 am »


okay i understand a fans perspective.   but loosing should not be a deterrent.   State plays P5 teams.

if my sister got paid $750,000, ...yes i would wrestle my sister


If your sister is hot I’ll wrestle her for free and save you some money.
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« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2017, 09:16:16 am »

If you are scared of playing stAte, please remove Bama from the schedule.

No one is scared of playing them. There's legitimately no benefit in playing them.

I'm also not sure you understand how conferences and divisions work in regards to scheduling.
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« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2017, 09:18:12 am »

I don't see why some fans are so hell-bent on playing Arkansas State.

Arkansas does not have a legitimate rival, not since Texas has it had a natural rival.  stAte would defintely be a game with emotions and Ark would win 90% of the time but the week of Florida A&M no one cares about football.  This would make for a fun week and keep money in state...  I bet you could charge Bama ticket prices and still fill it up and not have to give away 15,000 game week.
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« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2017, 09:19:19 am »

That's just Jim Harris making a feeble attempt to make himself relevant.  :puke:
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« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2017, 09:22:12 am »

your good reasons:
1. the UA is afraid they might loss to AState
2. it would be like playing our sister

I'm a little surprised you can't see the reasoning behind why UA won't play AState. There is absolutely nothing to gain for Arkansas to play AState. Zero. No matter how entertaining that game would be to watch, it would do nothing but hurt the Hogs.

Like it was mentioned before. If UA wins big, the reaction is "Meh...they were suppose to." If UA wins with a marginal victory, the reaction is "Wow...did you see how well AState played and/or how poorly UA did vs the little bro." And if the stars aligned and AState BEAT the UA, the reaction would be unbelievably bad for the Hogs.

So, please tell me why in the world the UofA would WANT to play this game?
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« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2017, 09:27:29 am »

i think its all in state money.  if fans consider AState is a little sister, as your post suggested, its the wrong analogy in my opinion.  AState is a D1 school. from our state.  keep the money in state.

Arkansas pays NMSU a million to play, money going out of state. Nebraska pays ASU a million to play money coming into the state. Sounds like a push to me.

But under your scenario UA pays ASU a million  and it's a million out of UA coffers into ASU coffers . How does that help UA?
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2017, 09:31:43 am »

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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2017, 09:32:12 am »

i think its all in state money.  if fans consider AState is a little sister, as your post suggested, its the wrong analogy in my opinion.  AState is a D1 school. from our state.  keep the money in state.


If ASU makes more playing out of state, and Arkansas clears more paying NMSU,then more money stays in state. Arkansas isn't going to play ASU in LR unless someone pays them $3m to play there, currently we've been paying.
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2017, 09:32:37 am »

No one is scared of playing them. There's legitimately no benefit in playing them.

I'm also not sure you understand how conferences and divisions work in regards to scheduling.
I don't understand why people can't grasp this.   I rather play 12 power 5 teams with 2 home and 2 away noncons in areas high in D1 talent.  Sure we would get beat up but maybe it would also open up recruiting.  Nothing is ever going to change unless we have a population explosion.  There is always going to be a postion group that is going to be thin in one area and good in another but never a complete team capable to compete for SECC or NC.   
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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2017, 09:33:54 am »

keep the money in state.


algebra class was tough?
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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2017, 09:34:13 am »

Arkansas does not have a legitimate rival, not since Texas has it had a natural rival.  stAte would defintely be a game with emotions and Ark would win 90% of the time but the week of Florida A&M no one cares about football.  This would make for a fun week and keep money in state...  I bet you could charge Bama ticket prices and still fill it up and not have to give away 15,000 game week.
Name a game they have given 15,000 tickets away, of course, I'm speaking of the University of Arkansas, not ASU as they have......
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« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2017, 09:36:04 am »

Arkansas pays NMSU a million to play, money going out of state. Nebraska pays ASU a million to play money coming into the state. Sounds like a push to me.

But under your scenario UA pays ASU a million  and it's a million out of UA coffers into ASU coffers . How does that help UA?

Precisely. UA pays $1 mill to play lesser teams. ASU gets payed $1 mill to play better teams. The money still goes where it would either way. This game does ABSOLUTELY nothing for UA. Would it be intriguing for fans? Absolutely. Does that mean I think it should happen? No.
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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2017, 09:38:37 am »

Here's the solution.  Offer to play them in Little Rock, but the UA doesn't pay them any money.  That way, both sides get what they want.  The UA saves around a million dollars not having to pay an opponent, which covers their loss playing once a year in LR.  State gets to play UA, which is what they want.

LR peoples get a significant game every year.  Everybody wins.
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2017, 09:41:04 am »

We need to play ASTATE in LR and put this dog to rest.
I concur DeltaBoy...the age old reasoning behind the "not in a million years" is old.  I get the fact that if A-State wins whatever Head Hog will be lambasted to no end but it will definitely keep Arkansas money in Arkansas.  I would bet you my paycheck that the game will sell-out every time with ALL ARKANSAS FOLKS!!! 
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« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2017, 09:44:59 am »

This is why as a country we are so divided.  We all know that it is never going to happen, yet almost weekly someone starts a thread saying crap like this.  We are not in control of the situation and it is clear the the people who are have decided to not play an in state game.  There it is done.   Quit trying to divide people by posting this crap.  Same can be true for everything else that is going on in this country.  We as a people do not have a respect for authority.  Whether you like them or not they are in the position to make the decisions so that is that.  The best part is if you don't like it then you have the right to choose to not follow the Razorbacks, there are plenty of other teams to root for that play in state games. Or even better part of this country work to put yourself in a position to be the one making the decisions and then you can do as you please. 
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2017, 09:45:22 am »

good will
Now you're not even trying.
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« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2017, 09:46:06 am »

I'm a little surprised you can't see the reasoning behind why UA won't play AState. There is absolutely nothing to gain for Arkansas to play AState. Zero. No matter how entertaining that game would be to watch, it would do nothing but hurt the Hogs.

Like it was mentioned before. If UA wins big, the reaction is "Meh...they were suppose to." If UA wins with a marginal victory, the reaction is "Wow...did you see how well AState played and/or how poorly UA did vs the little bro." And if the stars aligned and AState BEAT the UA, the reaction would be unbelievably bad for the Hogs.

So, please tell me why in the world the UofA would WANT to play this game?

not only that but PAY ASU for the privilege

It amazes me how people can be on board with this and still call themselves hog fans.

Lets see i am going to engage in a lose lose situation and pay $750,000 to do it. ready go. WTH?
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Re: The Hog Zone, Jim Harris
« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2017, 09:47:51 am »

Here's the solution.  Offer to play them in Little Rock, but the UA doesn't pay them any money.  That way, both sides get what they want.  The UA saves around a million dollars not having to pay an opponent, which covers their loss playing once a year in LR.  State gets to play UA, which is what they want.

LR peoples get a significant game every year.  Everybody wins.
Who pays for War Memorial? Who keeps the gate an concession money? Why would UA give up a money game to play this one for basically free?
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