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Worried About Austin
« on: October 02, 2017, 10:16:49 am »

Over the weekend I watched as our offensive line struggled (at times) to block a team that they should've been able to have their way with. I also watched as Bama and Auburns defensive lines took their opposing QB to the wood shed. When we play against those teams, Austin WILL take some shots. At this point, im not even thinking about winning or losing, im just hoping he can make it through those games in 1 piece
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 10:29:43 am »

Over the weekend I watched as our offensive line struggled (at times) to block a team that they should've been able to have their way with. I also watched as Bama and Auburns defensive lines took their opposing QB to the wood shed. When we play against those teams, Austin WILL take some shots. At this point, im not even thinking about winning or losing, im just hoping he can make it through those games in 1 piece


If we're doing 5 step drop-back passes against either Bama or Auburn, AA won't make it through the game.  Furthermore, if that's what the coaches are planning to try to do, they should be fire immediately for incompetence and dereliction of duty.  Only chance he has is to move the pocket and hit short routes.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 10:40:20 am »

Over the weekend I watched as our offensive line struggled (at times) to block a team that they should've been able to have their way with. I also watched as Bama and Auburns defensive lines took their opposing QB to the wood shed. When we play against those teams, Austin WILL take some shots. At this point, im not even thinking about winning or losing, im just hoping he can make it through those games in 1 piece

Saturday against NMS, the Hog O-Line didn't give up a sack. There is something to be said for that. The Hog defense, by the way, sacked the NMS QB twice.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2017, 12:38:39 pm »

4 Hurries and no sacks.. Anybody can send the house. On the big hits were they sending blitzers? How many in the box?
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2017, 12:42:36 pm »

4 Hurries and no sacks.. Anybody can send the house. On the big hits were they sending blitzers? How many in the box?

We didn't play against a good defensive front on SAT - not a good measuring stick
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2017, 12:44:51 pm »

He was not sacked this week and I hope to see some shotgun soon.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 12:48:39 pm »

We didn't play against a good defensive front on SAT - not a good measuring stick


This is why I say anybody can send the house. Simple numbers if you blitz more players than there are players to block it doesn't matter the team you are playing against.  4 hurries aren't a lot. I'm not arguing our line is good and we shouldn't worry about it I'm just saying stats say there were 4 hurries. If NMSU sent 8 and with only 5 or 6 blockers against anyone the they could hurry or knock down the QB on any team.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2017, 12:56:27 pm »

We didn't play against a good defensive front on SAT - not a good measuring stick

If those hurries and blitzes happened if they didn't blitz and they got to Allen with a 4 down front then yeah that's not great. However, if they sent 2 or 3 blitzers and we only had say what TE than that's more understandable.

I did like that fact that Allen was able to throw the ball away on all these plays. There were 3 or 4 sacks in the A&M game he held on to the ball too long.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2017, 12:58:50 pm »

Over the weekend I watched as our offensive line struggled (at times) to block a team that they should've been able to have their way with. I also watched as Bama and Auburns defensive lines took their opposing QB to the wood shed. When we play against those teams, Austin WILL take some shots. At this point, im not even thinking about winning or losing, im just hoping he can make it through those games in 1 piece
I'm in the same boat you are there.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2017, 01:05:20 pm »

Over the weekend I watched as our offensive line struggled (at times) to block a team that they should've been able to have their way with. I also watched as Bama and Auburns defensive lines took their opposing QB to the wood shed. When we play against those teams, Austin WILL take some shots. At this point, im not even thinking about winning or losing, im just hoping he can make it through those games in 1 piece



Yeah, Alabama beat Ole Miss down, but that is a result none of us are suprised by, but MSU did sack Auburn twice. I didn't watch the Miss State - Aub game. Did Stidham get hit much? Says he was hurried only once. How big were the sacks he got hit on?
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 01:29:29 pm »

Saturday against NMS, the Hog O-Line didn't give up a sack. There is something to be said for that. The Hog defense, by the way, sacked the NMS QB twice.

True, OL didn't give up any sacks but AA was hit and hit hard numerous times...Remember, it's the blowup sack that routinely kills QBs, it's at the moment after the ball is thrown and the QB takes big shots while being exposed is what does most in...That was happening to AA against NMST...
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2017, 01:41:46 pm »

Not sacked does not mean the same thing as not hit. The targeting hit on Austin was not a sack, but he sure took a lick. They never should have got that close to him. I can think of 2-3rd and shorts, one inside the 5, where NMS simply stuffed runs at, or behind the line of scrimmage. Simply have to have better performance up front as we get into the meat of the SEC schedule.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2017, 01:47:11 pm »

I don't know exactly what differentiates a hurry or not, but he was definitely hurried more than 4 times.  Enos is going to have to be creative to keep him upright through both of those games.  I would chuck the naked boot out of the playbook for a couple games as well.  If they read it right, he's booting right into some heat. 
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2017, 02:08:18 pm »


If we're doing 5 step drop-back passes against either Bama or Auburn, AA won't make it through the game.  Furthermore, if that's what the coaches are planning to try to do, they should be fire immediately for incompetence and dereliction of duty.  Only chance he has is to move the pocket and hit short routes.

And maybe charged with attempted capital murder by way of malicious negligence evidencing an extreme indifference to human life
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 03:15:58 pm »

And maybe charged with attempted capital murder by way of malicious negligence evidencing an extreme indifference to human life

Pretty much.  I know he's a tough SOB like BA but the reason they're tough is from building up calluses from getting smammered every week!!!  :puke:
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2017, 04:06:38 pm »

He may not have been sacked but he did take quite a few hits. They got him from the middle and the sides. Our OL need to protect him or just run the ball so we don't have to worry about pass protection to keep him in those games.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2017, 04:10:46 pm »

Saturday against NMS, the Hog O-Line didn't give up a sack. There is something to be said for that. The Hog defense, by the way, sacked the NMS QB twice.

There is something to say about that, they were playing against New Mexico State and not and SEC team defense, the Aggies weekend for last had six sacks and their defense is not good up against what Auburn and especially what Alabama is doing.  I think that is what the OP was thinking of.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2017, 04:51:38 pm »

Your concerned are warranted, OP. We will be playing from behind by multiple scores against both those teams. AA will be in lots-o-third and longs.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2017, 05:16:51 pm »

One of my favorite discussions because it applied to BA and now AA . . . if the consistent protection is not provided by the OL, why won't he run the ball down field?  Don't want to hear "the possibility of injury" argument.  He's already going to take the punishment one way or the other.  It's his senior year, there is no tomorrow with respect to "next year."  A leader, a Team Captain, will put the team on his back and carry them down field when needed/if he has to.  It will be interesting to see if he will as the upcoming string of conference games unfolds.  As much of a competitor as he is, I have been surprised we haven't seen it more as of yet.  The opposing defenses don't respect it because they know he won't tuck it and run when his receivers are covered.  AA could get 10 yards per carry if he did because it's there EVERY.SINGLE.GAME. 
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2017, 06:50:52 pm »

Not sacked does not mean the same thing as not hit. The targeting hit on Austin was not a sack, but he sure took a lick. They never should have got that close to him. I can think of 2-3rd and shorts, one inside the 5, where NMS simply stuffed runs at, or behind the line of scrimmage. Simply have to have better performance up front as we get into the meat of the SEC schedule.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2017, 06:56:18 pm »

Over the weekend I watched as our offensive line struggled (at times) to block a team that they should've been able to have their way with. I also watched as Bama and Auburns defensive lines took their opposing QB to the wood shed. When we play against those teams, Austin WILL take some shots. At this point, im not even thinking about winning or losing, im just hoping he can make it through those games in 1 piece

GET. RID. OF. THE. BALL.

Can't stand there statuesque in nature just hoping that receivers will get open in another second or two. Competitor? Yes. Leader? Yes. Trying to put the whole team on your back? Yes. Can't do this? Yes. Get rid of the ball in 3-1/2 to 4 seconds or get killed. Can't blame the O-Line for this in 50% of the attempted passes.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2017, 07:01:20 pm »

Some of hits are on him,  he has courage,  but if you see a clear blitz,  coming to the side your bootleg has you running to,  audible. Or get a T. O.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2017, 07:04:18 pm »

GET. RID. OF. THE. BALL.

Can't stand there statuesque in nature just hoping that receivers will get open in another second or two. Competitor? Yes. Leader? Yes. Trying to put the whole team on your back? Yes. Can't do this? Yes. Get rid of the ball in 3-1/2 to 4 seconds or get killed. Can't blame the O-Line for this in 50% of the attempted passes.
that and he has to actually throw them open.  if he waits till they get open, the throw is already late.

there just doesn't seem to be much chemistry between the WRs and the QB.  He doesnt trust they will be there, so he holds on to the ball until its too late.
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Re: Worried About Austin
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2017, 07:07:07 pm »

Some of hits are on him,  he has courage,  but if you see a clear blitz,  coming to the side your bootleg has you running to,  audible. Or get a T. O.

Exactly. Don't purposely put yourself in jeopardy. I applaud his courage, but it doesn't serve us well when we can throw it away and live to play another play. And yes, where are the audibles at the LOS if he can read defenses, their tendencies by down, distance and field position? Or is he given that option? I would think that he is, but don't know for certain. If he isn't and he is capable of doing so, he needs to be given that option at the LOS.

But again, what do any of us know? Nada! We speculate.
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