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hassettsportsman

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When the games were close....
« on: October 01, 2017, 09:20:37 am »

Even way back in the dark ages, during the Broyles era, when most of you hadn't been conceived yet...there was such a thing as great kicking and superb special teams.  Those concepts seem outdated in the era of glamour positions.  It's those 'subtle' details that win games.  Oh man...to have a Steve Little leg again at Hog U!
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2017, 09:22:42 am »

Or a Kendall Trainor.

You’re not the only one that remembers good special teams.

Hell, Jonelle was better at coaching special teams than anyone on this staff.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2017, 09:28:32 am »

And if your program like Arkansas being not Elite excellent special teams might be able to make up the difference against some opponents at least
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2017, 09:33:48 am »

Or a Kendall Trainor.

You’re not the only one that remembers good special teams.

Hell, Jonelle was better at coaching special teams than anyone on this staff.

Don't forget Bill Mc Clard. Kicked the first 60 yarder in the NCAA, I believe.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 09:38:53 am »

So true!  And to be a straight on kicker...unheard of in the modern era!
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2017, 09:45:49 am »

Don't forget Bill Mc Clard. Kicked the first 60 yarder in the NCAA, I believe.

How about Bob White?  Young whippersnappers...
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2017, 09:51:48 am »

You are right about special teams.  And you will see that that's one of Saban's secrets. In the modern/glamorous era he puts emphasis on it.  Why? Because it's 33.3% of the game.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 09:53:17 am »

And if your program like Arkansas being not Elite excellent special teams might be able to make up the difference against some opponents at least

True.

Big reason to put huge emphasis on it as the VA Tech coach did throughout his career.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2017, 09:57:00 am »

True.

Big reason to put huge emphasis on it as the VA Tech coach did throughout his career.
part of the reason why we need a different head coach.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2017, 10:11:35 am »

You are right about special teams.  And you will see that that's one of Saban's secrets. In the modern/glamorous era he puts emphasis on it.  Why? Because it's 33.3% of the game.

That kick six though. Really, bama's kicker has been their weakness before. I'm not sure about this year.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2017, 10:19:15 am »

You are right about special teams.  And you will see that that's one of Saban's secrets. In the modern/glamorous era he puts emphasis on it.  Why? Because it's 33.3% of the game.

For all that Bama is awesome at (and that's mostly everything) they have been mediocre to poor in the kicking game.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2017, 10:25:34 am »

Bama should fire their entire coaching staff then if what was posted above is valid..... I too would love to see an improvement in "special teams".  I would also enjoy reading a thread... Any thread without all the agenda crap.   :puke:   Go Hogs....Woo Pig!
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2017, 10:54:17 am »

How about Bob White?  Young whippersnappers...

I'll see your Bob White and raise you a Ronnie South and Tom McKnelly!
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2017, 01:28:20 pm »

I'll see your Bob White and raise you a Ronnie South and Tom McKnelly!

Wear Schoonover or bust.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2017, 04:45:33 pm »

Steve Little, Bruce Lahay, Kendall Trainor…my favorite kickers of my Hog lifetime. Record holders and All Americans, those guys can make a difference. We had such a long list of solid kickers, and why the drop off?

So many tough losses in the past several years from not making routine kicks—one that will always stand out, losing to Miss State 51-50 on a chip shot, in the game where Brandon Allen threw 7 TD passes. Our kick team robbed BA of a win and what many would say is the best performance ever by an Arkansas quarterback.

We were shaky years before too—I remember the 6-OT loss to Tennessee (in Matt's time) where we missed several field goals, including a game-winner in OT.

This conversation could extend to our special teams/return games as well. Nice seeing kickoff and punt returns taken to the house—via Felix Jones, Dennis Johnson and Joe Adams. Where has that been?
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2017, 08:39:51 pm »

Ish Ordonez & Steve Cox were pretty good too.
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Re: When the games were close....
« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2017, 11:48:17 pm »

A kickoff or punt return for a touchdown will ruin our time of possession.  Who needs that?
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