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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #100 on: October 05, 2017, 06:32:21 pm »

It took barford especially and macon a little bit all the way until late in the year for them to really dominate.  They turned it over early in the year and didn't quite have that jazz in their game that they did later in the year.  Same thing with our 4's.  We should have them playing at a high level from day 1.   

My man, we had two 16 PPG scorers returning Day 1 last season. If anything, we have LESS proven scoring coming into this season. We had Barford and Macon coming into last season to go with Moses and Dusty. Barford scored in double figures in all but 4 games before SEC play. Macon failed to score double figures in only 3 games before SEC play. So the notion that they didn't turn it on scoring the ball (which what we're talking about here) is completely false. You'd have to reach pretty hard to find two players on this roster that will provide us with the scoring that Macon and Barford did to supplement Dusty and Moses.
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« Reply #101 on: October 05, 2017, 06:33:01 pm »

My feeling is people thought Dusty was an excellent 3 point shooter but a liability on defense and probably wouldn't score many 2's.

They also thought Moses would block shots and dunk a few times but not much else in the way of offensive game.

I think Barford and Macon are complete players hence the proven scoring.

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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #102 on: October 05, 2017, 06:34:18 pm »

Barford and Macon.

Okay, Moses and Dusty scored more than those two did coming into last season. So where is more proven scoring coming from?
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« Reply #103 on: October 05, 2017, 06:37:43 pm »

Macon and Barford averaged 26.2 points last year as juniors. Moses and Dusty averaged around 32 points a game as returning seniors form their junior seasons.  You could see that as a bit of a drop off but you have to take into account that Barford and Macon's production came as 1st year D1 players out of juco and you will see them be more prepared out of the gate this season after the "juco adjustment" that we have come to expect from most juco players.

But we had Dusty and Moses + Barford and Macon coming into last season. Do we have two players currently on the roster that a good bets to be ready-made scorers like Macon and Barford were coming in from JUCO? The consensus expectation here on Hogville is that we wouldn't see too much of the "JUCO adjustment" for those two. I just don't see that on this roster. I think Beard will average around 11 PPG. I could see Gafford being around there as well, but I'm not nearly as confident in that as I was Barford and Macon doing what they did last season going into this season.
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #104 on: October 05, 2017, 06:45:29 pm »

Scoring has never been an issue for MAís teams. Iím not worried
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« Reply #105 on: October 05, 2017, 06:47:00 pm »

Scoring has never been an issue for MAís teams. Iím not worried

Agreed. But I wouldn't say we have more proven scoring coming into this season compared to last season.
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #106 on: October 05, 2017, 06:50:09 pm »

Hopefully, CJ gets hot early and often.  Gafford and Thompson will get theirs.  Somebody will step up.  They always do.
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #107 on: October 05, 2017, 08:37:55 pm »

Okay, Moses and Dusty scored more than those two did coming into last season. So where is more proven scoring coming from?

Scored more on an awful team...
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« Reply #108 on: October 05, 2017, 09:23:33 pm »

Scored more on an awful team...

ďAwfulĒ is a little strong. Give that team 2 more players that can play in a rotation and itís probably an NIT team. Not a bad team, just got hit by a tornando in the offseason. It would have been truly awful without them.
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« Reply #109 on: October 05, 2017, 09:36:24 pm »

ďAwfulĒ is a little strong. Give that team 2 more players that can play in a rotation and itís probably an NIT team. Not a bad team, just got hit by a tornando in the offseason. It would have been truly awful without them.

Team was awful bro, cut it out
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #110 on: October 05, 2017, 10:00:05 pm »

Team was awful bro, cut it out

Yeah, 16-16 on a really bad schedule.
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« Reply #111 on: October 06, 2017, 08:55:51 am »

My man, we had two 16 PPG scorers returning Day 1 last season. If anything, we have LESS proven scoring coming into this season. We had Barford and Macon coming into last season to go with Moses and Dusty. Barford scored in double figures in all but 4 games before SEC play. Macon failed to score double figures in only 3 games before SEC play. So the notion that they didn't turn it on scoring the ball (which what we're talking about here) is completely false. You'd have to reach pretty hard to find two players on this roster that will provide us with the scoring that Macon and Barford did to supplement Dusty and Moses.

And this is where we can agree to disagree.

Last year Barford and Macon were highly rated recruits, but they hadn't proven anything on the D1 level and they clearly got better as the season went on.

Last year's team had 2 proven guys as you mentioned.  one was a 3 point specialist and the other was a dunker rim protector. All the talk about that team was that we hoped Dusty would become an 'avg' defender and that Moses would develop a low post game.  I think both things happened to a certain extent.

It is in no way a "reach" to believe that Macon and Barford will improve upon their junior campaigns.  So low teens as juniors will probably translate to high teens as Seniors, then you toss in a motivated, and in shape Beard.

I dunno about you but when i see teams with 3 senior guards that can play i get high hopes for the season.

Gafford and the freshman being the xfactor if you will in this season it is not impossible to feel like this year's team will be better than the last, at least on defense and that is where MA focus's on first we probably won't lead the league in scoring but i do not expect much of a drop off.
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #112 on: October 06, 2017, 10:14:02 am »

I like Barford, Macon, Thompson and Gafford more than I did Hannahs, Moses, Barford and Macon coming in last year.  I also like what we have behind them better.  Seems to me we have upgraded on ability and experience overall...if Gafford is all we think he is.  If Gafford has anything close to a freshmen all-American season we will be very good. 
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #113 on: October 06, 2017, 11:47:55 am »

Team was awful bro, cut it out

That team lost 7 games by 5 points or less and had to play Keaton Miles 15 minutes a game due to a lack of depth. Beard was out of a 3rd of the season and wasn't very effective when he came back due to the missed time. Trey Thompson went from 2 MPG in half the games to 17 MPG in every game. I'm under no illusion that JaCorey Williams has the season he had at MTSU if he sticks at Arkansas, but having him and Beard for a full season is likely the difference between 16-16 and 19-20 wins. A Mike Anderson team can't be successful without depth and that team was extremely shallow due to outside circumstances all hitting at once.
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #114 on: October 06, 2017, 11:54:08 am »

Team was awful bro, cut it out

I would consider awful being the 2008-2009 team that went 2-14 in SEC play...
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« Reply #115 on: October 06, 2017, 12:00:46 pm »

And this is where we can agree to disagree.

Last year Barford and Macon were highly rated recruits, but they hadn't proven anything on the D1 level and they clearly got better as the season went on.

Last year's team had 2 proven guys as you mentioned.  one was a 3 point specialist and the other was a dunker rim protector. All the talk about that team was that we hoped Dusty would become an 'avg' defender and that Moses would develop a low post game.  I think both things happened to a certain extent.

It is in no way a "reach" to believe that Macon and Barford will improve upon their junior campaigns.  So low teens as juniors will probably translate to high teens as Seniors, then you toss in a motivated, and in shape Beard.

I dunno about you but when i see teams with 3 senior guards that can play i get high hopes for the season.

Gafford and the freshman being the xfactor if you will in this season it is not impossible to feel like this year's team will be better than the last, at least on defense and that is where MA focus's on first we probably won't lead the league in scoring but i do not expect much of a drop off.

Another reach would be insinuating that I said Barford and Macon can't improve upon their junior campaigns. I'm talking about the statement that we have more proven scoring to start out than we did last season and I think, at best, you could only argue that it's about the same unless there is a new, lower-bar definition for proven.

As mentioned previously, the points will come from somewhere. But I don't think we can really be too sure how and where outside of Barford, Macon, and probably Beard. I've been vocal about Beard having a "big" senior season and I appeared to be in the minority on that. But, if we're all being honest, we've been kind of waiting on more from Beard to this point. Wouldn't consider his scoring contributions "proven." I like the make-up and potential of the team, but there isn't much proven outside of Macon and Barford in terms of scoring (to the original point). Them improving from last year doesn't change that.
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« Reply #116 on: October 06, 2017, 12:07:17 pm »

Another reach would be insinuating that I said Barford and Macon can't improve upon their junior campaigns. I'm talking about the statement that we have more proven scoring to start out than we did last season and I think, at best, you could only argue that it's about the same unless there is a new, lower-bar definition for proven.

As mentioned previously, the points will come from somewhere. But I don't think we can really be too sure how and where outside of Barford, Macon, and probably Beard. I've been vocal about Beard having a "big" senior season and I appeared to be in the minority on that. But, if we're all being honest, we've been kind of waiting on more from Beard to this point. Wouldn't consider his scoring contributions "proven." I like the make-up and potential of the team, but there isn't much proven outside of Macon and Barford in terms of scoring (to the original point). Them improving from last year doesn't change that.

I understand that your argument is basically semantics that you do not agree that a team of 2nd year Barford, Macon, Beard is more "proven at scoring" than the previous team of Hannahs and Moses. 

I agree with the point that i feel we are more proven and you do not that is fine it is a pretty close measure to be sure. 

Also i have been waiting on Beard for awhile, i am honestly surprised he is still here considering all that has happened through his career.  It is part of why i feel a bit more on the proven side i feel like a solid to elite 3 guard combo is what we will have.
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« Reply #117 on: October 06, 2017, 12:20:02 pm »

I would consider awful being the 2008-2009 team that went 2-14 in SEC play...

That 2008 team was more talented though. Just had horrible coaching which led to 0 discipline in locker room...
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« Reply #118 on: October 06, 2017, 01:04:56 pm »

I really think Gafford will give us 10-12 ppg just from hustle points and alley oops. Would be great if CJ Jones plays up to his potential and give us 8-10. Thereís a lot of hidden potential that could possibly be tapped this season.

I think CJ might give us 20 PPG.  Wouldn't doubt we get 55 PPG from Barford, Macon, Jones. 
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« Reply #119 on: October 06, 2017, 01:08:34 pm »

I think CJ might give us 20 PPG.  Wouldn't doubt we get 55 PPG from Barford, Macon, Jones.

You are joking, right? I love CJ's potential and think he is going to be a major contributor, but 20ppg?
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« Reply #120 on: October 06, 2017, 02:04:00 pm »

I think CJ might give us 20 PPG.  Wouldn't doubt we get 55 PPG from Barford, Macon, Jones. 

20 PPG? Sheesh. That would put him in the top 10 of season averages in program history.

All from a guy that didn't get off the bench much after early season tune ups.

I'm all for him providing quality minutes but dang man.
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« Reply #121 on: October 06, 2017, 02:26:23 pm »

I think CJ might give us 20 PPG.  Wouldn't doubt we get 55 PPG from Barford, Macon, Jones.

Haha! National Champs if so! I would be ecstatic if CJ gave us 8 PPG
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« Reply #122 on: October 06, 2017, 02:30:14 pm »

Haha! National Champs if so! I would be ecstatic if CJ gave us 8 PPG

I'd be ecstatic with 10 to 12 but only eight? Meh.
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« Reply #123 on: October 06, 2017, 02:35:16 pm »

I think CJ might give us 20 PPG.  Wouldn't doubt we get 55 PPG from Barford, Macon, Jones. 

If CJ gave us 20 a game, and it wasn't on 40 shots,  we'd be National Title contenders.

Realistically, 6 to 8 is a good target for him this year.
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« Reply #124 on: October 06, 2017, 02:40:23 pm »



Realistically, 6 to 8 is a good target for him this year.

Yep.. along with several others... 5 or 6 people in this range with 3 double digit scores puts you @ 80 +....
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« Reply #125 on: October 06, 2017, 03:18:47 pm »

I'd be ecstatic with 10 to 12 but only eight? Meh.

From CJ? A player who didnít play last year? 10-12 points is a bit irrational
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« Reply #126 on: October 06, 2017, 03:25:45 pm »

From CJ? A player who didnít play last year? 10-12 points is a bit irrational

Normally I would agree with you ,but I thought he should have played last year, plus, I don't think his defense was what was keeping him off the floor. If he gets the minutes he might average more than 10-12. Additionally, I am expecting a spike in points after turnovers.
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« Reply #127 on: October 06, 2017, 03:34:07 pm »

From CJ? A player who didnít play last year? 10-12 points is a bit irrational

Well, I don't get ecstatic as easily as some so what I'm saying is that I think 8 points is well within CJ's ability but if he were to exceed my expectations and get 10-12, I would be ecstatic and rightfully so. You don't go getting ecstatic over any old thing.
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« Reply #128 on: October 06, 2017, 03:43:50 pm »

CJ isn't going to be shooting many free throws, so getting to 10 ppg next year will be tough. Elite scorers find a way to get to the line. I could see him averaging two 3's a game and either a layup or pull up jumper. So right about 8 ppg would be good for him.
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« Reply #129 on: October 06, 2017, 03:48:11 pm »

I donít think you guys realize how difficult it would be for him to Average 10-12 ppg with Macon and Barford on the court. I donít see CJ starting most of the games, so he could be the spark plug off the bench which in that case, yes he could average 10-12 IF he is comfortable and plays up to his potential. I just donít expect that out of him this season so 8-10 from him is more than enough
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« Reply #130 on: October 06, 2017, 05:17:37 pm »

20 PPG? Sheesh. That would put him in the top 10 of season averages in program history.

All from a guy that didn't get off the bench much after early season tune ups.

I'm all for him providing quality minutes but dang man.
Haha! National Champs if so! I would be ecstatic if CJ gave us 8 PPG
If CJ gave us 20 a game, and it wasn't on 40 shots,  we'd be National Title contenders.

Realistically, 6 to 8 is a good target for him this year.
You are joking, right? I love CJ's potential and think he is going to be a major contributor, but 20ppg?

I get that its pretty mind blowing to think about, but man, if he didn't get 20 PPG in Europe, he could've with a few more minutes.  I know, its a completely different level of defense they faced in Europe.  If given minutes and the green light, you never know though.  Dusty Hannahs sure was high on him and endorsed his 3 point shooting. 

smh, this offense is going to be so explosive. 
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« Reply #131 on: October 06, 2017, 05:28:16 pm »

I get that its pretty mind blowing to think about, but man, if he didn't get 20 PPG in Europe, he could've with a few more minutes.  I know, its a completely different level of defense they faced in Europe.  If given minutes and the green light, you never know though.  Dusty Hannahs sure was high on him and endorsed his 3 point shooting. 

smh, this offense is going to be so explosive. 

Its not mind-blowing.  Its unrealistic.    He's on a pretty standard development curve, and getting carried away with performances in low-defense environments isn't a good rational basis for hoping.
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« Reply #132 on: October 06, 2017, 05:36:14 pm »

Its not mind-blowing.  Its unrealistic.    He's on a pretty standard development curve, and getting carried away with performances in low-defense environments isn't a good rational basis for hoping.

You don't have a crystal ball any more than I. 
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« Reply #133 on: October 06, 2017, 05:39:45 pm »

You don't have a crystal ball any more than I. 

No, but I do have a season of watching him, observing shoot arounds,  listening to the staff and watching.   You would *know* if there was some kind of a leap in the development curve.  It'd show through somewhere.  They'd talk with quiet confidence about a kid ready to make a 17PPG leap as part of the plan.

You don't see those things for a reason. 
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« Reply #134 on: October 06, 2017, 07:41:19 pm »

No, but I do have a season of watching him, observing shoot arounds,  listening to the staff and watching.   You would *know* if there was some kind of a leap in the development curve.  It'd show through somewhere.  They'd talk with quiet confidence about a kid ready to make a 17PPG leap as part of the plan.

You don't see those things for a reason.

My question is that, why, out of anybody that could have offensively exploded in Europe, why was it CJ that did so?
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« Reply #135 on: October 06, 2017, 08:00:45 pm »

I would consider awful being the 2008-2009 team that went 2-14 in SEC play...

Stan Heath's first team takes the awful cake.
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« Reply #136 on: October 06, 2017, 08:15:43 pm »

My question is that, why, out of anybody that could have offensively exploded in Europe, why was it CJ that did so?
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Because you know what he has offensively, in terms of arsenal and ability.  He's naturally going to have a big edge in athleticism over low level Euro competition as well, meaning that his success there is no surprise, as his game almost tailor made to take advantage of the differences.

There's a reason why athletic SGs and SFs almost always do well when a team tours Italy or Spain and plays against the 3rd tier of club level basketball (LEB Plata is behind LEB Oro and Liga ACB)- they're getting low level competition, particularly when it comes to athletes.   

Its no accident Adrio Bailey looked like Tarzan against such teams last summer, and played a bit more like Jane when the real season came,  either.  The same thing applies to CJ.
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« Reply #137 on: October 06, 2017, 08:23:55 pm »

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Because you know what he has offensively, in terms of arsenal and ability.  He's naturally going to have a big edge in athleticism over low level Euro competition as well, meaning that his success there is no surprise, as his game almost tailor made to take advantage of the differences.

There's a reason why athletic SGs and SFs almost always do well when a team tours Italy or Spain and plays against the 3rd tier of club level basketball (LEB Plata is behind LEB Oro and Liga ACB)- they're getting low level competition, particularly when it comes to athletes.   

Its no accident Adrio Bailey looked like Tarzan against such teams last summer, and played a bit more like Jane when the real season came,  either.  The same thing applies to CJ.

Interesting.  So I guess the same could be said about him scoring 28 ppg in high school.  That being said, after what I saw of CJ last year, I didn't really get a sense that he will or will not be an impact player if given the minutes and able to get into a flow. 

Spain was encouraging, possibly a sign. 
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« Reply #138 on: October 06, 2017, 08:27:58 pm »

Interesting.  So I guess the same could be said about him scoring 28 ppg in high school.  That being said, after what I saw of CJ last year, I didn't really get a sense that he will or will not be an impact player if given the minutes and able to get into a flow. 

Spain was encouraging, possibly a sign. 

You don't recruit guys who can't fill it up in HS-- and really, that's what low level Euro ball is-- trumped up HS ball.

CJ played about 6 minutes a game last year, and got about two and a half points;   nice production, solid shooting all around, but even playing at the same efficiency levels at 24 minutes a game, that's a 10PPG guy, not a 20.

You hope he can give you 24 minutes a game of productive play by the time he leaves, a solid to important rotation player.  You don't build your roster and your hopes around him, though.
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« Reply #139 on: October 06, 2017, 09:01:58 pm »

No, but I do have a season of watching him, observing shoot arounds,  listening to the staff and watching.   You would *know* if there was some kind of a leap in the development curve.  It'd show through somewhere.  They'd talk with quiet confidence about a kid ready to make a 17PPG leap as part of the plan.

You don't see those things for a reason.

lol I've seen practices where he's had 30 easily. Purely his lack of playing time comes to being lost on defense (which he's improved). He's a pure scorer, even on difficult shots. He was truly a rare find late in the recruiting class. He has the instant ability to get 15 ppg just by teammates finding himS and they all know what he can do. You're underselling him which I can't be mad at.
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« Reply #140 on: October 06, 2017, 10:07:50 pm »

I am ready for basketball.  I believe that we will have a pretty decent teams.  Get to about 24-26wins, probably 2 or 3 in the sec tourney and then sweet16 maybe more.  I think that this team can be pretty dang good by the time march madness gets here. We may not get a high seed come tourney time, but teams will NOT want to play us.  I, like most anyone who is looking at what we have coming recruited, and whats to come in future stars inside the state for the future is very excited.  We lost a very good player with Moses and one of our best 3pt shooters and they will be hard to replace.  But, we do have some great talent coming and I believe that we will be a better team come Tourny time!  I believe that Barford and Macon will be another year stronger/better.  Last year, they were inconsistent at times.  But this year, I think they will be on fire out of the gate!  That will help us a lot to take up the points that we might miss from Dusty and Moses.  I do believe that Trey Thompson will step up and be big for us.  He by no means will be Moses replacement, but I think that he will give us valuable minutes.  I believe between Gafford and Trey, we will more than make up for Moses departure.  We will miss Dusty's 3pt shot more than we will miss Moses.  But, hopefully,Adrio bailey will improve on what we saw from him in the N.C. game.  Hopefully we can see something out of C J as well.  Hopefully we can see a big improvement out of Beard as well.  More consistency from him would be what id like to see the most.  Hopefully Garland will get a clear on his health, and hopefully he and our other guards will come in and fill in for depth.  I have never worried about Nolan or Mike's teams when it came to where the scoring would come from, because our defense always provided for it.  Which, with the addition of our taller guards, I believe that our defense will be much better!  it definitely will be a fun season!  Like I mentioned, I think we may have some losses early while the team is trying to figure itself out, but once we get all in sync, I think this team will be pretty dang good!  I would LOVE it if somehow we could get UNC again in the tourney and then kick their arse!
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Re: Practice Reports
« Reply #141 on: October 06, 2017, 10:25:16 pm »

lol I've seen practices where he's had 30 easily. Purely his lack of playing time comes to being lost on defense (which he's improved). He's a pure scorer, even on difficult shots. He was truly a rare find late in the recruiting class. He has the instant ability to get 15 ppg just by teammates finding himS and they all know what he can do. You're underselling him which I can't be mad at.

How do you see practices?  Also, I agree with 100% of what you're saying.  I'm working with, what I presume to be, the same information as eriehog. I've seen all the highlights, watched every game, and watched every press conference. 

My hunch is based off of, why, he and not barford, Hannah's, or Macon scored all the points in Europe.  His numbers were insane, efficient too.  Then pairing that with his insane athleticism and nice shot that I've seen.  Paired with glimpses while he's played.  And when he plays, you can tell his teammates have major respect for him and are very willing to get the ball to him.  And then just when he never played last year, dusty Hannah's gives him an endorsement, and it reminds me of what a scorer he is.

I guess he didn't know defense, even though I saw him make some plays, but if he does get minutes, he just might be able to get 20 ppg while macon and barford are still getting there's.
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« Reply #142 on: October 06, 2017, 11:14:46 pm »

How do you see practices?  Also, I agree with 100% of what you're saying.  I'm working with, what I presume to be, the same information as eriehog. I've seen all the highlights, watched every game, and watched every press conference. 

My hunch is based off of, why, he and not barford, Hannah's, or Macon scored all the points in Europe.  His numbers were insane, efficient too.  Then pairing that with his insane athleticism and nice shot that I've seen.  Paired with glimpses while he's played.  And when he plays, you can tell his teammates have major respect for him and are very willing to get the ball to him.  And then just when he never played last year, dusty Hannah's gives him an endorsement, and it reminds me of what a scorer he is.

I guess he didn't know defense, even though I saw him make some plays, but if he does get minutes, he just might be able to get 20 ppg while macon and barford are still getting there's.
I just don't buy the "struggled catching on to the defense" when it comes to CJ. Now he might not have been a good defensive player or just simply not focusing on defense, but it's not like we run some elaborate defensive scheme that would take long to figure out. Our base defense is man to man and we switch about all ball screens, that shouldn't be that hard to figure out, find your man, guard him, ball screen comes I switch. Now maybe CJ just wasn't dialed in when it came to defense, but it would be hard for me to understand how he could be "lost" when it comes to what we do defensively.
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« Reply #143 on: October 07, 2017, 08:38:19 am »

I just don't buy the "struggled catching on to the defense" when it comes to CJ. Now he might not have been a good defensive player or just simply not focusing on defense, but it's not like we run some elaborate defensive scheme that would take long to figure out. Our base defense is man to man and we switch about all ball screens, that shouldn't be that hard to figure out, find your man, guard him, ball screen comes I switch. Now maybe CJ just wasn't dialed in when it came to defense, but it would be hard for me to understand how he could be "lost" when it comes to what we do defensively.

The conclusion I came to in my head was that C.J. probably wasnít doing what he needed to do in practices last season and I think that is where players earn trust with Mike. Just a guess, though, because there were definitely times where is seemed we could have used some instant scoring and we were still playing guys that werenít defending too well.
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« Reply #144 on: October 07, 2017, 08:47:43 am »

The conclusion I came to in my head was that C.J. probably wasnít doing what he needed to do in practices last season and I think that is where players earn trust with Mike. Just a guess, though, because there were definitely times where is seemed we could have used some instant scoring and we were still playing guys that werenít defending too well.

Real head scratcher
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« Reply #145 on: October 07, 2017, 10:21:34 am »

This meme about CJ Jones being a superstar in waiting is out of control. He was a three star out of high school, not heavily recruited by any power schools, and not good enough to get on the floor last year. Heís unlikely to be a starter this year, but should get some good minutes. Expecting anything more than 6 or 8 points per game is just unreasonable. Heís almost a legend on this site before accomplishing anything at all. Stop the madness and let him play a few minutes before naming him player of the year.
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« Reply #146 on: October 07, 2017, 10:32:07 am »

Real head scratcher

Well, all we have to go by is what CMA said and that was that CJ needed to work harder on the defensive end to see more playing time.  So maybe he loafs in practice but Iím sure CMA has discussed it with him and if he responds, he will play.
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« Reply #147 on: October 07, 2017, 10:34:12 am »

Real head scratcher

Well, all we have to go by is what CMA said and that was that CJ needed to work harder on the defensive end to see more playing time.  So maybe he loafs in practice but Iím sure CMA has discussed it with him and if he responds, he will play.
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« Reply #148 on: October 07, 2017, 11:19:24 am »

This meme about CJ Jones being a superstar in waiting is out of control. He was a three star out of high school, not heavily recruited by any power schools

Doesn't matter. 
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