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How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« on: September 30, 2017, 10:27:48 pm »

3-3 after first six with LSU, Ole Miss, Missouri, Coastal, Mississippi State left on the schedule. This next week is huge for the darksiders because otherwise it's looking like another 7-8 win season. The next 2 years features 4 non power 5 with Kentucky and Vandy on the schedule. He might slip up and win 9 games one of those years which means another extension. You guys desperately need a loss next weekend to keep hope alive for a losing season. Best of luck rooting against your team!
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 10:29:27 pm »

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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2017, 10:31:16 pm »

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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 10:31:42 pm »

What a true joy that would be to finish with another mediocre record, not because we were good, but because everyone else sucked worse.  Wow...how great that would be.  I’ll try to think of that potential joy when Auburn and Bama are ramming their Johnson’s into our skulls at will.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2017, 10:34:12 pm »

If your litmus test is Bama, I feel sorry for you.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2017, 10:34:36 pm »

I want us to win every game.

What really sucks though is to look at the state of the SEC and know that if we were any good at all, this could be a 10-ish win type of year.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2017, 10:39:18 pm »

We won today. Watching Tamu vs USC, there’s hope going into next week. As crazy as the SEC is this year, watch Sumlin pull one off against Saban. :)
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2017, 10:46:23 pm »

I want us to win every game.

What really sucks though is to look at the state of the SEC and know that if we were any good at all, this could be a 10-ish win type of year.

A ten win season which has happened 3 times in 25 years. 10ish has proven to be our best during a weak schedule year. I bet your unaware that we've played vandy all those years. How are you people incapable of seeing our program for what it is in the SEC? The delusion in the fanbase holds us back. We have no history to anyone under 50 years old. The three winningest coaches in Arkansas history didn't coach in this conference. Open your eyes man. We will have good seasons again and it has little to do with coaching. Program stability is everything in college.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2017, 10:48:01 pm »

A ten win season which has happened 3 times in 25 years. 10ish has proven to be our best during a weak schedule year. I bet your unaware that we've played vandy all those years. How are you people incapable of seeing our program for what it is in the SEC? The delusion in the fanbase holds us back. We have no history to anyone under 50 years old. The three winningest coaches in Arkansas history didn't coach in this conference. Open your eyes man. We will have good seasons again and it has little to do with coaching. Program stability is everything in college.
Don't talk about program stability to Wildhog.  He is on record as being just fine with swapping coaches every few seasons until we get lucky.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2017, 10:48:46 pm »

Don't talk about program stability to Wildhog.  He is on record as being just fine with swapping coaches every few seasons until we get lucky.

Truth.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2017, 10:50:28 pm »

3-3 after first six with LSU, Ole Miss, Missouri, Coastal, Mississippi State left on the schedule. This next week is huge for the darksiders because otherwise it's looking like another 7-8 win season. The next 2 years features 4 non power 5 with Kentucky and Vandy on the schedule. He might slip up and win 9 games one of those years which means another extension. You guys desperately need a loss next weekend to keep hope alive for a losing season. Best of luck rooting against your team!
3-3 after first six with LSU, Ole Miss, Missouri, Coastal, Mississippi State left on the schedule. This next week is huge for the darksiders because otherwise it's looking like another 7-8 win season. The next 2 years features 4 non power 5 with Kentucky and Vandy on the schedule. He might slip up and win 9 games one of those years which means another extension. You guys desperately need a loss next weekend to keep hope alive for a losing season. Best of luck rooting against your team!
This is what happens when a fan's stated loyalty to a coach equals or surpasses his loyalty to a program.

We beat NM St. Watch out SEC! The fighting Bielema's are comin'!!!
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2017, 10:50:54 pm »

Truth.
At least you are honest about it.  Most of the jackholes here try to pretend they are morally superior.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2017, 10:51:59 pm »

I want us to win every game.

What really sucks though is to look at the state of the SEC and know that if we were any good at all, this could be a 10-ish win type of year.

If we didn't have problems on the OL, we would be a 10 win team this season.

That is the only thing we need.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2017, 10:52:51 pm »

If we didn't have problems on the OL, we would be a 10 win team this season.

That is the only thing we need.

That's what's so frustrating.  It's not like this was an issue we didn't see coming.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 10:55:34 pm »

We won today. Watching Tamu vs USC, there’s hope going into next week. As crazy as the SEC is this year, watch Sumlin pull one off against Saban. :)
not happening.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2017, 10:57:28 pm »

Boy some of y'all love you some mediocrity. Some think it is best for the program to lose till we get a new HC and that's totally fine
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2017, 10:58:27 pm »

This is what happens when a fan's stated loyalty to a coach equals or surpasses his loyalty to a program.

We beat NM St. Watch out SEC! The fighting Bielema's are comin'!!!
Wrong! I just don't think the coach matters that much at a program like Arkansas. We need stability older players and a weak schedule to have a great season. Bielema has flaws which are made more noticeable by playing at a constant talent disadvantage. I respect Wildhog because he honestly believes rotating coaches every 4 years is the way to win an SEC championship which is all I care about. To be honest, there isn't any difference between a 7-8 win season and 10-11 win season if we still lose to every top 10 team we play during the latter. This usually means the rest of are schedule was weak and we were good.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2017, 11:01:27 pm »

Truth.

I can respect that I just don't agree which is cool. I want to win a SEC championship just don't agree on the most likely way to get there.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2017, 11:04:49 pm »

If we didn't have problems on the OL, we would be a 10 win team this season.

That is the only thing we need.
On the offensive side.  We sure could use improved special teams and a defense that could stop 30 40 and 50 yard td runs in the SEC.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2017, 11:04:50 pm »

10-2 coming fast.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2017, 11:08:28 pm »

I can respect that I just don't agree which is cool. I want to win a SEC championship just don't agree on the most likely way to get there.

Haha, it's cool.  I just prefer we had a coach with a higher ceiling/lower floor than a guy that is going to win seven games every single year. 


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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2017, 11:08:41 pm »

Wrong! I just don't think the coach matters that much at a program like Arkansas. We need stability older players and a weak schedule to have a great season. Bielema has flaws which are made more noticeable by playing at a constant talent disadvantage. I respect Wildhog because he honestly believes rotating coaches every 4 years is the way to win an SEC championship which is all I care about. To be honest, there isn't any difference between a 7-8 win season and 10-11 win season if we still lose to every top 10 team we play during the latter. This usually means the rest of are schedule was weak and we were good.
Right.  No difference between Smile and Petrino.  (And Petrino had to be fired)  It's just a stupid assertion.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2017, 11:11:37 pm »

Luke Hog, you have got some bad mamma jamma going on in the head.  A coach doesn't matter that much to a 10 win team?  Seriously?  You don't win 10 games without athletes on that team, and it's the coaches responsibility to get those athletes!

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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2017, 11:15:08 pm »

If we didn't have problems on the OL, we would be a 10 win team this season.

That is the only thing we need.

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And receivers ..

And a defense
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2017, 11:25:17 pm »

Wrong! I just don't think the coach matters that much at a program like Arkansas. We need stability older players and a weak schedule to have a great season. Bielema has flaws which are made more noticeable by playing at a constant talent disadvantage. I respect Wildhog because he honestly believes rotating coaches every 4 years is the way to win an SEC championship which is all I care about. To be honest, there isn't any difference between a 7-8 win season and 10-11 win season if we still lose to every top 10 team we play during the latter. This usually means the rest of are schedule was weak and we were good.


Leadership is EVERYTHING
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #26 on: September 30, 2017, 11:26:34 pm »

On the offensive side.  We sure could use improved special teams and a defense that could stop 30 40 and 50 yard td runs in the SEC.

If we had an OL that could get push and space, then we wouldn't be as dependent on ST.

But yes. These special teams are the worst I've ever seen. Like ever.

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And receivers ..

And a defense

Meh. OL push would fix a whole bunch of stuff on both sides of the ball.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2017, 11:27:42 pm »

I want us to win every game.

What really sucks though is to look at the state of the SEC and know that if we were any good at all, this could be a 10-ish win type of year.
said this in another thread....and you hit it as square on the button as a Dustin Johnson drive
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2017, 11:30:06 pm »

Luke Hog, you have got some bad mamma jamma going on in the head.  A coach doesn't matter that much to a 10 win team?  Seriously?  You don't win 10 games without athletes on that team, and it's the coaches responsibility to get those athletes!

See ya

Have you looked at our schedule during 10 win seasons. Obviously a certain level of competence is necessary. But I don't think there is much difference between the majority of power 5 coaches with a few being in their own league. Bielema, Sumlin, Mcelwain, Mullen, Butch and tons of other coaches all the same.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2017, 11:40:56 pm »

If we didn't have problems on the OL, we would be a 10 win team this season.

That is the only thing we need.
No it's not.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2017, 11:41:22 pm »


Leadership is EVERYTHING
Exactly. Programs like Arkansas are always going to play with more questionable  talent than the elites, so the importance coaching and leadership is magnified. We have very little margin for error.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2017, 11:45:04 pm »

Have you looked at our schedule during 10 win seasons.
This is just a stupid argument.

2010 we faced 6 ranked teams, beating 3 of them, and had the 3rd toughest schedule in the nation. Our losses were to the teams who ended the season ranked 1st, 5th and 10th. Our wins included 9-win aTm, a 9-win MSU who destroyed Michigan in their bowl, a 9-win & SEC E champ South Carolina, and 11-2 LSU.

2011 was similar, facing 6 ranked teams and beating 4 of them, with the #8 toughest schedule in the nation. Our only losses were to national championship game participants Alabama and LSU. 

So take your "we need a weak schedule to win 10" and stuff it.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2017, 11:46:52 pm »

I want us to win every game.

What really sucks though is to look at the state of the SEC and know that if we were any good at all, this could be a 10-ish win type of year.

And how slim the margin really is.  Like, a couple of lineman and Pulley being okay away.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2017, 11:47:20 pm »

Wrong! I just don't think the coach matters that much at a program like Arkansas. We need stability older players and a weak schedule to have a great season. Bielema has flaws which are made more noticeable by playing at a constant talent disadvantage. I respect Wildhog because he honestly believes rotating coaches every 4 years is the way to win an SEC championship which is all I care about. To be honest, there isn't any difference between a 7-8 win season and 10-11 win season if we still lose to every top 10 team we play during the latter. This usually means the rest of are schedule was weak and we were good.


No the frustrating thing about Bielema is he has yet to have the team ready to start the season.
Never - not one season have we been prepared and ready to play when Sept rolled around.
We usually do get better as the year goes on - except last year with the 2nd half meltdowns - still trying to figure out how that happened.
Every year he finds too many losses in games that should have been wins.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2017, 11:50:24 pm »


Leadership is EVERYTHING

As evidenced by LSU, right now.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2017, 11:56:25 pm »


No the frustrating thing about Bielema is he has yet to have the team ready to start the season.
Never - not one season have we been prepared and ready to play when Sept rolled around.
We usually do get better as the year goes on - except last year with the 2nd half meltdowns - still trying to figure out how that happened.
Every year he finds too many losses in games that should have been wins.

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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2017, 12:00:00 am »

Coaching matters.

Scheme matters.

Players matter.

Schedule matters.

Probably in that order.

Though you could probably switch out 2 for 3 and 3 for 2.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2017, 12:02:37 am »

Coaching matters.

Scheme matters.

Players matter.

Schedule matters.

Probably in that order.

Though you could probably switch out 2 for 3 and 3 for 2.

Meh.

I'm just mad that I ain't seen no more of Duvall Wally.
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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2017, 12:02:53 am »

Wrong! I just don't think the coach matters that much at a program like Arkansas. We need stability older players and a weak schedule to have a great season. Bielema has flaws which are made more noticeable by playing at a constant talent disadvantage. I respect Wildhog because he honestly believes rotating coaches every 4 years is the way to win an SEC championship which is all I care about. To be honest, there isn't any difference between a 7-8 win season and 10-11 win season if we still lose to every top 10 team we play during the latter. This usually means the rest of are schedule was weak and we were good.

I don't have any set number of years to give a coach.  If we were making steady progress, I'd be singing a different tune.  I just feel like we've seen enough to know what Bielema is at Arkansas.

And I totally disagree with the sentence in bold.  It just doesn't compute.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2017, 12:13:25 am »

I don't have any set number of years to give a coach.  If we were making steady progress, I'd be singing a different tune.  I just feel like we've seen enough to know what Bielema is at Arkansas.

And I totally disagree with the sentence in bold.  It just doesn't compute.

  He tried. It wasn't good enough.  Life and football are like that. I truly believe the man came in in good faith believing he could win at Arkansas.  He did not.

  The reasons he failed don't matter at this point.  Go Hogs . Beat the Cocks.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2017, 12:27:58 am »

Don't talk about program stability to Wildhog.  He is on record as being just fine with swapping coaches every few seasons until we get lucky.

It's a better plan that holding onto one loser for several years hoping that lightning suddenly strikes and miraculously turns him into a real coach.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2017, 12:28:49 am »

We won today. Watching Tamu vs USC, there’s hope going into next week. As crazy as the SEC is this year, watch Sumlin pull one off against Saban. :)

Dude, I was at the Bama game tonight. Those guys are scary good, particularly on special teams. They kicked off to OM to start the game, made sure to kick it so it would be returned, then tackled OM at the 13. OM punted, Bama got it on the OM side of the field, scored, then rinse & repeat.

A&M has no shot against those guys.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2017, 12:37:59 am »

A ten win season which has happened 3 times in 25 years.
Another way of looking at that is that it's happened 3 times in 11 years.

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10ish has proven to be our best during a weak schedule year.
If 2010 was a weak schedule year what the hell does that make this year?

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I bet your unaware that we've played vandy all those years.
It's spelled "you're" and Mizzou is our vandy that we play every year. If you didn't notice, Mizzou should have been a 3 win team last year. They were a 4 win team because we had a second half meltdown of Wagnerian proportions (a staple of Bielema-coached Arkansas teams) that never should have happened. They are going to be historically bad this year.

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How are you people incapable of seeing our program for what it is in the SEC? The delusion in the fanbase holds us back. We have no history to anyone under 50 years old. The three winningest coaches in Arkansas history didn't coach in this conference. Open your eyes man. We will have good seasons again and it has little to do with coaching. Program stability is everything in college.
WRONG! Nutt is 2nd on the all time Arkansas wins list behind Broyles. Program stability is important but did program stability lose games last year against Mizzou or Virginia Tech, or Toledo the year before? Did program stability lose against TCU and A&M this year? No, horrible coaching and horrible player development did.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2017, 01:00:09 am »

Tears of joy, I can't root against us regardless. I may start out that way, but can never stick with it after kick off.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2017, 01:29:09 am »

Coaching matters.

Scheme matters.

Players matter.

Schedule matters.

Probably in that order.

Though you could probably switch out 2 for 3 and 3 for 2.

I do not think scheme matters as much.  As long as you are executing, you can be successful with a lot of different schemes.  So yah, I would probably swap 2 and 3.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2017, 01:39:04 am »

Truth.

Might just be crazy enough to work.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2017, 01:42:18 am »

3-3 after first six with LSU, Ole Miss, Missouri, Coastal, Mississippi State left on the schedule. This next week is huge for the darksiders because otherwise it's looking like another 7-8 win season. The next 2 years features 4 non power 5 with Kentucky and Vandy on the schedule. He might slip up and win 9 games one of those years which means another extension. You guys desperately need a loss next weekend to keep hope alive for a losing season. Best of luck rooting against your team!

 Truth.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2017, 05:37:43 am »

I want us to win every game.

What really sucks though is to look at the state of the SEC and know that if we were any good at all, this could be a 10-ish win type of year.

We easily could have had 10 wins two years ago and 9 wins last year (including the bowl).
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2017, 07:44:44 am »

We easily could have had 10 wins two years ago and 9 wins last year (including the bowl).

 But didn't.
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Re: How many here are going to be crying uncontrollably if we beat SC?
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2017, 07:46:20 am »

But didn't.

We are what our record says we are.
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