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Piggfoot

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Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« on: September 29, 2017, 08:49:02 pm »

We are in the SEC now. Records from the SWC and coaches from that era are not applicable to discussions about the Razorbacks of today nor is comparisons with teams from other conferences.
Comparing the old SWC to todays SEC is comparing White to Black. Football today is a game composed of the entire population of the US. When we won the NC, 15 % of the population were excluded from playing.
That is the past. Talk about the present and the SEC Razorbacks.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 09:04:40 pm »

Good luck. There's literally no end to the "Houston Nutt was better than this" or the "Make Ken Hatfield the AD" or the "I remeber when we used to steam roll A&M and TCU" threads. They'll never die. Because the past is always better than the present if you never leave the past.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 09:11:01 pm »

Lots of schools on the list who won prior and after we did in 1964:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/years/
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 09:14:32 pm »

We have been in the SEC since 1992.  That's 25 years.  WE have not won an SEC Championship in football.  The last conference championship that we won was in 1989......in the SWC......
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 09:16:22 pm »

To remain ignorant of things that happened before you were born is to remain a child.

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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 09:17:14 pm »

We have been in the SEC since 1992.  That's 25 years.  WE have not won an SEC Championship in football.  The last conference championship that we won was in 1989......in the SWC......

What he said.............
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2017, 09:27:12 pm »

We have played for the championship 3 times, that's twice more than MSU, 3 times more than Ole Miss and ATM. 3 teams have played for the championship the most from the west Bama, LSU and Auburn and Auburn/LSU have only been there 5 times each in 25 years.

So don't try to act like Arkansas doesn't belong because we do! Your crappy poor little me attitude is getting old very fast!
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2017, 09:49:36 pm »

We have played for the championship 3 times, that's twice more than MSU, 3 times more than Ole Miss and ATM. 3 teams have played for the championship the most from the west Bama, LSU and Auburn and Auburn/LSU have only been there 5 times each in 25 years.

So don't try to act like Arkansas doesn't belong because we do! Your crappy poor little me attitude is getting old very fast!

Keep deluding yourself- I'm sure it makes you feel better
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 09:52:49 pm »

I want to see the razorbacks win as much as anyone else and feel like we have underachieved since bielemas second year.  I've looked at the last 3 years schedules and thought about games we should have won.  We should have been a 9 win team in 2014, 10 maybe 11 wins in 2015 and 9 last year.  Then i got to thinking about what that would mean, how often we have had 9 win seasons.  So for those of you that loved the glory days and those complaining about the present state, have a look at our results for the past 25 years.  We have had like 6 seasons of 9 wins or more.  I am hopeful that we figure out how to stop snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.  If we do we could be as good as we have been 6 times previosly in 25 years...
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2017, 09:57:58 pm »

Keep deluding yourself- I'm sure it makes you feel better

It actually does....i do it every day.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2017, 10:13:24 pm »

Good luck. There's literally no end to the "Houston Nutt was better than this" or the "Make Ken Hatfield the AD" or the "I remeber when we used to steam roll A&M and TCU" threads. They'll never die. Because the past is always better than the present if you never leave the past.

I tend to think that the present and future are usually better than the past.

However, if the conversation is just about Arkansas football, much of the past was better than the present. Our SEC record under the current regime is worse than it was under almost every other coach in the SEC era.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2017, 10:19:45 pm »

What makes you feel better???
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2017, 10:26:54 pm »

We have played for the championship 3 times, that's twice more than MSU, 3 times more than Ole Miss and ATM. 3 teams have played for the championship the most from the west Bama, LSU and Auburn and Auburn/LSU have only been there 5 times each in 25 years.

So don't try to act like Arkansas doesn't belong because we do! Your crappy poor little me attitude is getting old very fast!

They don't think this electricity thingy is going to stay.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2017, 10:50:43 pm »

 Nebraska is also having issues in the current football environment. Maybe its time to build a new conference. It may seem silly. But with todays media environment anything is possible.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2017, 11:29:03 pm »

Nebraska is also having issues in the current football environment. Maybe its time to build a new conference. It may seem silly. But with todays media environment anything is possible.

I think the system is just stacked in certain programs' favor. And I think kids are bought just like what your'e hearing about with the FBI stuff coming down in College Basketball. The whole thing is sketchy and not about parity. It's about making money off of these massive programs like Bama and Florida State.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2017, 01:23:35 am »

This thread is just another one of those "don't dare disagree with me, because I'm the only one who's right" threads. People will post whatever they like. Deal with it.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2017, 01:40:21 am »

We are in the SEC now. Records from the SWC and coaches from that era are not applicable to discussions about the Razorbacks of today nor is comparisons with teams from other conferences.
Comparing the old SWC to todays SEC is comparing White to Black. Football today is a game composed of the entire population of the US. When we won the NC, 15 % of the population were excluded from playing.
That is the past. Talk about the present and the SEC Razorbacks.

Yeah ill talk 2017 SEC. Its not good bro. This isn't the SEC from a decade ago and quit acting like it is. The SEC being very down is why its more disappointing. The SEC teams are worse and Arkansas remains the same. Fans have every right to be upset.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2017, 02:50:37 am »

In the last 10 years we had back to back winning seasons with 10 and 11 wins respectively. That just shows that this thread is BS. I don't care who the coach is, I want a winning season where the hogs are relevant in the national discussion once in awhile. 2010 & 2011 just blow holes in the theory that Arkansas can not win in the SEC and could only win in the SWC. I call BS.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2017, 03:36:53 am »

Nebraska is also having issues in the current football environment. Maybe its time to build a new conference. It may seem silly. But with todays media environment anything is possible.


We Used to Win conference: HOGS, Longhorns, Cornhuskers, Fighting Irish, Hurricanes, Volunteers, Gators......who else ?
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2017, 06:11:40 am »

I just don't understand Razorback fans acceptance of mediocrity but it is what it is.
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Re: Will people please stop comparing the past with the present.
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2017, 07:14:42 am »

We are in the SEC now. Records from the SWC and coaches from that era are not applicable to discussions about the Razorbacks of today nor is comparisons with teams from other conferences.
Comparing the old SWC to todays SEC is comparing White to Black. Football today is a game composed of the entire population of the US. When we won the NC, 15 % of the population were excluded from playing.
That is the past. Talk about the present and the SEC Razorbacks.
In all sports records are taken that's why we know that Babe Ruth was the first to hit 60 home runs, that's why we know Secretariat was the best American Thoroughbred race horse to ever win a race in the US.
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