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Would a loss to NM State...
« on: September 28, 2017, 10:12:40 am »

...get Bielema fired on the spot?   I'm not saying that is going to occur, but stranger things have happened (under BB's watch).  Sadly I have pretty much lost all faith in this coaching staff.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2017, 10:13:58 am »

...get Bielema fired on the spot?   I'm not saying that is going to occur, but stranger things have happened (under BB's watch).  Sadly I have pretty much lost all faith in this coaching staff.


Nope, he and JL will just talk about film, a play here or there and GPA.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2017, 10:15:56 am »

I think we'll win, but I'm afraid we'll need to make a play in the 4th to seal it.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2017, 10:22:33 am »

Wouldn't losing to NMSU be some kind of violation of the morals clause ???
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2017, 10:24:43 am »

...get Bielema fired on the spot?   I'm not saying that is going to occur, but stranger things have happened (under BB's watch).  Sadly I have pretty much lost all faith in this coaching staff.
What has happened stranger than losing to NMSU? Toledo was at least a good mid D1 team. NMSU is not.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 10:31:02 am »

No.  There would be some conversation about eventually getting breaks, and how great the concessions are at RRS and what a great show they put on, how they have hashtags for social media, and how there are things more important than winning, like luxury boxes. 

 

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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 10:33:06 am »

...get Bielema fired on the spot?   I'm not saying that is going to occur, but stranger things have happened (under BB's watch).  Sadly I have pretty much lost all faith in this coaching staff.

Sunday afternoon/evening the termination would be drawn up, but the presser would be Monday (10-2-17).

...but that's not going to happen.  We win this one easily.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 10:35:08 am »

Only if it pisses off the Money Men enough to write a fat azz check.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2017, 11:03:25 am »

I think Bielema safe through the end of next season, regardless of record.  The only way he goes is if he somehow violates his moral turpitude clause (doubtful), or leaves on his own (might happen, but still doubtful).
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2017, 11:04:59 am »

on the spot? no. at the end of the season, quite possibly because a loss to NMSU likely leads to a 4 win season.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2017, 11:06:50 am »

Of course not. Smile wasn't fired immediately after ULM or any of his other many embarrassing acts that season. We are stuck with Bielema for at least another couple of months.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2017, 11:29:39 am »

We could lose out and it still be in the realm of probability that BB keeps his job.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2017, 11:31:29 am »

I think Bielema safe through the end of next season, regardless of record.  The only way he goes is if he somehow violates his moral turpitude clause (doubtful), or leaves on his own (might happen, but still doubtful).

Hasn't he already done that by losing to A & M five years in a row?
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2017, 11:33:40 am »

What has happened stranger than losing to NMSU? Toledo was at least a good mid D1 team. NMSU is not.

Might wanna do a little research on NMSU.  They aren't bad this year.  If we sleep walk into this game, take them for granted, play with our heads up our asses...we could very easily lose.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2017, 11:37:23 am »

Because of LONG and the buyout you can forget about a new coach, won't happen.    I love these threads about every coach in the free world coming to Arkansas this year or next......Forget about it!

Get rid of LONG, then maybe we have a chance.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2017, 11:38:54 am »

We could lose out and it still be in the realm of probability that BB keeps his job.

Just that possibility would get fans worked up into such a fervor that Combover Gov himself would most likely have to intervene to ensure Bielema was not retained, but....

It's not going to happen.  Our guys have the talent, and the pride to win handily.  NMSU is much better than what they have been in the past, but there is no way we shouldn't cover and then some.  Coaches aside our kids are ready to deliver a beat down to just about anyone.  They showed last week that they still have some fight left in them.  After playing A&M, NMSU will appear to be running in quicksand in comparison.  My hope is that if they do win big they don't relax thinking all is well but rather still play like they have something to prove from here on out. 
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2017, 12:39:04 pm »

What has happened stranger than losing to NMSU? Toledo was at least a good mid D1 team. NMSU is not.
NM State might be better than you think.  They were 24 point underdogs to AZ State and only lost that game by 6.  Last I saw, were only 17 point favorites.  We might very well beat the snot of out them, but sadly I could see us struggle and give the game away too.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2017, 12:44:45 pm »

What has happened stranger than losing to NMSU? Toledo was at least a good mid D1 team. NMSU is not.

Losing after having a two touchdown lead at Rutgers.  Losing at home to Texas Tech, including scoring 24 points on the worst defense we saw that year.  Beating La Tech at home by one point in year four.  Losing to a 3-8 Mizzou team after leading 24-7, blowing two touchdown leads three different times against Texas A&M.  Should I go on?
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2017, 12:49:13 pm »

We could lose out and it still be in the realm of probability that BB keeps his job.

Oh horse crap. He'd be fired at the end of the year.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2017, 12:51:54 pm »

I don't know diddly about inner sanctum college football head coach replacement motivations and procedural tendencies; - - but it is my wholly unqualified opinion that if Bielema was a cat, he might have already relinquished seven or eight of his lives at the Arkansas helm - - - and may very well now be down to his remaining one or two.

A thoroughly-embarrassing loss to NMSU  would certainly not improve his status situation.

I simply don't know what motivational factor JL or the program power brokers respond to with more of a sense of urgency.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2017, 12:52:24 pm »

Might wanna do a little research on NMSU.  They aren't bad this year.  If we sleep walk into this game, take them for granted, play with our heads up our asses...we could very easily lose.

they are a 2-2 team, that is currently in last place in the mighty Sun Belt, we should win by 3 touchdowns
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2017, 12:56:17 pm »

Just that possibility would get fans worked up into such a fervor that Combover Gov himself would most likely have to intervene to ensure Bielema was not retained, but....

It's not going to happen.  Our guys have the talent, and the pride to win handily.  NMSU is much better than what they have been in the past, but there is no way we shouldn't cover and then some.  Coaches aside our kids are ready to deliver a beat down to just about anyone.  They showed last week that they still have some fight left in them.  After playing A&M, NMSU will appear to be running in quicksand in comparison.  My hope is that if they do win big they don't relax thinking all is well but rather still play like they have something to prove from here on out. 
Agree. Our line backers apparently miss read their keys at times, but the effort and fight appeared to be there.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2017, 12:56:45 pm »

No!  You have to remember that "IF" we beat NMS this Saturday it will be and upset.  They have a better Coach than we do and have IMO the best player on the field in their primary receiver, since we can't seem to develop a decent pass rush on the opposing QB we'll be looking at a long day Saturday unless we can just outscore them.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2017, 01:40:32 pm »

they are a 2-2 team, that is currently in last place in the mighty Sun Belt, we should win by 3 touchdowns

Are we as talented as Tennessee?  How about as well coached?  They barely beat an 0-4 UMass team at home last week.  NMSU is better than UMass.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2017, 02:03:46 pm »

We could lose out and it still be in the realm of probability that BB keeps his job.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2017, 02:20:30 pm »


Nope, he and JL will just talk about film, a play here or there and GPA.

Bielema will just talk about how close we are! Can't you guys see how close we are!!!!? So close..
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2017, 02:48:09 am »

We could lose out and it still be in the realm of probability that BB keeps his job.

Yep.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2017, 05:17:06 am »

We could lose out and it still be in the realm of probability that BB keeps his job.

You're right of course, but how insane is that?  I mean, 15 million dollars now, 11 million at the end of the season?  For a sub .500 coach? 

Good grief!  What the hell are we talking about here?  How in freaks sake did we end up here?  Because he beat Texas?  Who the hell didn't beat Texas when Strong was there?!
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2017, 05:25:17 am »

No, it would not.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2017, 05:30:35 am »

Bielema will just talk about how close we are! Can't you guys see how close we are!!!!? So close..

I'm normally a positive person, but damn it!  26-28 in year five!  What coach at a big time program, with this kind of record is secure in his job?  11-15 million reasons why he won't get fired.  This is absolute b.s.!  I've been a huge CBB fan and even bigger Jeff Long fan, but that ship has sailed. 

Grateful for the program cleanup, but sick and damn tired of hearing how "close" we are!  Win, or else man up and resign so someone else can give it a shot.  Don't hide behind a buyout you don't deserve. 
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2017, 08:10:59 am »

I know some of you are clamoring for a firing, but a firing 4 games into the season??  That is the kind of thing a desperate program does...and it usually doesn't recover quickly from it.  It's not like we can fire him and interview coaches for the remainder of the season.  Anyone we'd want to hire is probably busy until the end of the year.

I get the frustration, but firing 1/3 into the season would not be good.  Maybe not as damaging as wrecking your bike with your girlfriend on the back, then having an inept interim coach for a year...but still pretty damaging.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2017, 08:17:16 am »

I am resigned to the fact the AD might get canned but CBB is going to be here for sure though the 2018 season.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2017, 08:25:34 am »

No. Jeff would never fire a coach mid season and personally I think it's stupid to fired someone midseason
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2017, 09:43:56 am »

I am resigned to the fact the AD might get canned but CBB is going to be here for sure though the 2018 season.
You’re an idiot, so at least you have that going for you
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2017, 09:48:52 am »

...get Bielema fired on the spot?   I'm not saying that is going to occur, but stranger things have happened (under BB's watch).  Sadly I have pretty much lost all faith in this coaching staff.

I really, REALLY hope we win this one, but I'll go far as to say that if we don't win this game by at least 10 points, then Bielema will probably get the boot. I just can't see the boss hogs sitting back saying, "Woo Pig, look at that result. We done beat 'em by a touchdown, that a boy Bret, that a boy!!!!" If the final score is like 28-21 or 28-24 or even 45-38, I just can't see them saying this is okay.....if they do, this program is doomed to become the next Vanderbilt/Kentucky.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2017, 09:50:55 am »

I really, REALLY hope we win this one, but I'll go far as to say that if we don't win this game by at least 10 points, then Bielema will probably get the boot. I just can't see the boss hogs sitting back saying, "Woo Pig, look at that result. We done beat 'em by a touchdown, that a boy Bret, that a boy!!!!" If the final score is like 28-21 or 28-24 or even 45-38, I just can't see them saying this is okay.....if they do, this program is doomed to become the next Vanderbilt/Kentucky.

If he wins, he won't be fired.  I don't look for him to be fired until January anyway.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2017, 12:14:07 pm »

....if they do, this program is doomed to become the next Vanderbilt/Kentucky.
Based on the record, we are already there.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2017, 12:36:31 pm »

If he wins, he won't be fired.  I don't look for him to be fired until January anyway.

If we lose it will be this weekend though, there's no way the powers that be let Bielema get by with losing to a lower tier Sun Belt team....
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2017, 12:40:46 pm »

Losing after having a two touchdown lead at Rutgers.  Losing at home to Texas Tech, including scoring 24 points on the worst defense we saw that year.  Beating La Tech at home by one point in year four.  Losing to a 3-8 Mizzou team after leading 24-7, blowing two touchdown leads three different times against Texas A&M.  Should I go on?
Losing to Texas Tech and beating La Tech is worse than losing to NMSU?
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2017, 12:42:39 pm »

Nope, but it could get an assistant coach fired....

We have got through the interim goal deal and that was a disaster.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2017, 12:46:40 pm »

I don't think a loss to NM State gets the coach fired but it would make certain that all the home games would be played in a mostly empty stadium
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2017, 12:48:36 pm »

We should win easily but if we didn't, CBB would still not be fired. The days of having a strong AD that would take quick decisive action like that was over when Frank left. But he should be fired on the spot if he loses this game.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2017, 12:49:24 pm »

...get Bielema fired on the spot?   I'm not saying that is going to occur, but stranger things have happened (under BB's watch).  Sadly I have pretty much lost all faith in this coaching staff.
I guess that's what prompted your thread... the horse has turned to dust. 
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2017, 01:39:46 pm »

I guess that's what prompted your thread... the horse has turned to dust.
I was just curious what people's opinions are -- that is all.  And it isn't like anyone had already posed the question here so not sure why your undies are in a bunch.  I don't think it would make sense (if he were to lose) but I know A LOT of fans would be really, really pissed...even more than they are now.  Hopefully we can pull out a win this weekend!!!  Go Hogs Go!
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2017, 01:43:17 pm »

The Hogs can lose every game for the rest of the season and the rotund one will not be fired.  Settle in for the ride, it will be a while.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2017, 01:50:30 pm »

It wouldn't be as bad of a loss as losing to The Citadel.

It would be as bad of a loss as losing to Toledo.

A loss to New Mexico State wouldn't really change much.  Jeff Long is probably used to and indifferent to Toledo type losses.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2017, 02:31:05 pm »

No.  There would be some conversation about eventually getting breaks, and how great the concessions are at RRS and what a great show they put on, how they have hashtags for social media, and how there are things more important than winning, like luxury boxes. 

 


The concessions aren't great by any means
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2017, 03:07:30 pm »

Losing to Texas Tech and beating La Tech is worse than losing to NMSU?

No, not worse but the question was "stranger."  We were favored over TTech by 10 and lost by 11 and were 26 point favorites over La Tech.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2017, 03:11:38 pm »

The Hogs can lose every game for the rest of the season and the rotund one will not be fired.  Settle in for the ride, it will be a while.

Then Jeff Ling should be for that idiotic contract.
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Re: Would a loss to NM State...
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2017, 03:58:09 pm »

It wouldn't be as bad of a loss as losing to The Citadel.

It would be as bad of a loss as losing to Toledo.

A loss to New Mexico State wouldn't really change much.  Jeff Long is probably used to and indifferent to Toledo type losses.

Yeah, NMSU is not close to being a weak enough opponent that would get the coach fired the next day.  They lost by less than a TD to Arizona State, who upset Oregon.
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