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Author Topic: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M  (Read 1958 times)

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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2017, 05:53:35 am »

So what is it Muskogee?

I'm not sure, but I cannot believe it is because they aren't trying. All I know is that I see some guys on the O-Line not keeping their feet moving and constantly re-positioning their base so that they move with pass rushers, maintaining their leverage on the opponent. I don't believe that it is because they are weaker than the opponent and I don't think it is because the coach or the players are lazy. 
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #51 on: September 28, 2017, 06:26:39 am »

I'm not sure, but I cannot believe it is because they aren't trying. All I know is that I see some guys on the O-Line not keeping their feet moving and constantly re-positioning their base so that they move with pass rushers, maintaining their leverage on the opponent. I don't believe that it is because they are weaker than the opponent and I don't think it is because the coach or the players are lazy. 



Poor footwork and "power" goes hand in hand with insufficent core stability.


Modern S&C is all about the core.  These boys ain't equal with their opponents dynamically.   
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #52 on: September 28, 2017, 07:17:18 am »



Poor footwork and "power" goes hand in hand with insufficent core stability.


Modern S&C is all about the core.  These boys ain't equal with their opponents dynamically.   

Run blocking is fine for the most part. I'm not talking about "power" as much as I am about good footwork (technique) that helps you keep your leverage. I know you want to say it is S&C that is the problem, I just disagree.
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2017, 07:53:11 am »

Run blocking is fine for the most part. I'm not talking about "power" as much as I am about good footwork (technique) that helps you keep your leverage. I know you want to say it is S&C that is the problem, I just disagree.


You can't move laterally with an insufficient core.  These guys look like 70's linemen.


They have squat contests.  That's irrelevant in 2017.
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #54 on: September 28, 2017, 07:57:02 am »


On the sack on the rollout, that is on Allen.

The RB stays in to block, so #25 LB Tyrel Dodson has no coverage responsibility. When Allen rolls out, he takes a direct bead on him, because he has to stop him from rushing. Allen should have thrown it away.
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #55 on: September 28, 2017, 08:13:10 am »

So basically, Bert can't recruit.  And folks here bash Bobby for the very same thing.
No, Bret can recruit! He got 4 star Wallace here! Not all 4 and 5 stars pan out. We beat many Power 5 schools to land him, something Petrino never did with n0n-Arkansas boys who were coming here anyway.

Wallace is a bust, unless he starts seeing his scholarship as a chance to get to the NFL! He won't get there from the bench
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2017, 08:19:20 am »


You can't move laterally with an insufficient core.  These guys look like 70's linemen.


They have squat contests.  That's irrelevant in 2017.
Squats are great for your core... 
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2017, 09:44:33 am »


It sad this issue is been around since the end of 2014 .
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2017, 10:15:20 am »

Ragnow to tackle is the only solution to this problem.  We seem to have plenty of good inside lineman.  Your best lineman should be playing left tackle.

Ragnow may be the only guy they have with the athletic ability of a tackle.
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2017, 04:13:40 pm »

It's good to hear from you, Fayettechill.  I have always enjoyed your posts and I was afraid you left Hogville long ago.  Thanks for the link and keep up the good work.

I appreciate that!

I did leave for a while but kept my account. I took a job at a TV station that rivals KNWA so although I wasn't on-air, many here knew my real name so I didn't want any appearance of conflict, since I did a lot of sports production as a part of my job. I left the NWA TV market a few months ago, so I imagine I'll resume posting at least a little bit.
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2017, 04:47:19 pm »

Squats are great for your core... 

They're OK if done properly

The type of dynamic core stability we're talking about usually requires more focused activities than squats though......
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2017, 05:25:24 pm »

They're OK if done properly

The type of dynamic core stability we're talking about usually requires more focused activities than squats though......
Reaching.

They are excellent, and they are being done correctly if you watch how they are being taught and performed at the UofA.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/strengthening-your-core-right-and-wrong-ways-to-do-lunges-squats-and-planks-201106292810

This shows the basic way to do a squat to strengthen your core.  Same posture BH keeps the team in.
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2017, 05:50:10 pm »

Reaching.

They are excellent, and they are being done correctly if you watch how they are being taught and performed at the UofA.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/strengthening-your-core-right-and-wrong-ways-to-do-lunges-squats-and-planks-201106292810

This shows the basic way to do a squat to strengthen your core.  Same posture BH keeps the team in.


Not reaching.  Squats are good and going to be part of most programs but primarily a lower chain activity


If you are doing squats for your dynamic stability  work you are waaaay behind.


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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2017, 05:55:58 pm »

chill......

i do a lot of backpacking and lead a lot of group trips. i've seen "fayettechill" on some of my hikers and on gear in the stores, haven't i?

is that you?
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2017, 06:08:24 pm »


You can't move laterally with an insufficient core.  These guys look like 70's linemen.


They have squat contests.  That's irrelevant in 2017.

Linemen from the 70's were far more athletic than they are now. Of course, they were for the most part, much smaller in terms of weight and had to block entirely different schemes. Just go look at the offensive lines of the teams that ran the triple option or the Veer. Frank Kush at Arizona State recruited LB's and turned them into O-Linemen. Just an example.
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Re: A closer look at the offensive line vs. A&M
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2017, 06:51:52 pm »

Not reaching.  Squats are good and going to be part of most programs but primarily a lower chain activity
If you are doing squats for your dynamic stability  work you are waaaay behind.
No program, even at junior high levels, only rely on squats for core.  However, squats are one of the best total body lifts an athlete can do.  Squats, power cleans, snatch, etc. 
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