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I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« on: September 26, 2017, 09:32:27 pm »

BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.

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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2017, 09:39:29 pm »

42-38>10-23
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2017, 09:39:38 pm »

where's the fun in that?
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2017, 09:57:00 pm »

where's the fun in that?

We watch our beloved hogs succeed
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2017, 10:05:52 pm »

Your lack of faith disturbs me...
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2017, 10:06:45 pm »

42-38>10-23

They actually had a head to head matchup with both coaching their best teams.

Who won? I'll hang up and listen.
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2017, 10:08:28 pm »

They actually had a head to head matchup with both coaching their best teams.

Who won? I'll hang up and listen.

Which team had its best player at about 75% with a hamstring?  I'll hang up and listen.
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2017, 10:10:49 pm »

We watch our beloved hogs succeed
But they arenít.....
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2017, 10:10:58 pm »

Amen.

I am with you 100%.
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2017, 10:13:10 pm »

Your lack of faith disturbs me...
I want him gone yesterday, but we can cry, threaten or spread rumors and it won't work. Hate it but dj is right, let it play out there is a scenario that might get him fired so like the man says let it play out
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2017, 10:14:31 pm »

BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.



The players were supported in 2006 and 2007. Whole heartedly. To suggest that because Nutt was a scumbag and Bret isnt, that this is different..and this time we need to support the players....they were supported last time.

The problem this time is the AD. Hide and watch.

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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2017, 10:15:38 pm »

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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2017, 10:16:55 pm »

BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.

 Nobody cares if you are a "darksider"......
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2017, 10:29:27 pm »

Gotta crack some eggs to make an omelette.  It's better in the long run for the players, fans, spirit of Frank Broyles if this season goes horribly.  The roster is loaded with talent that lots of coaches (not named Bielema) could instantly win 9 games with.
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2017, 10:29:35 pm »

Nobody cares if you are a "darksider"......

listen carefully - I've been there done that - you SHOULD CARE

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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2017, 10:30:44 pm »

Smh.
Sad.
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2017, 10:31:18 pm »

Amen.

I am with you 100%.

Peace OKLA

This is a NEW dawn.....
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2017, 10:32:48 pm »

To this point, Bielema is a good football coach, a good man, who made a poor career move. He wasn't the first to do that, and he won't be the last. Happens across all professions.

As long as he is our football coach, I hope he does well. I would like nothing better than for us to correct the issues that have us at 1-2 and have a good season. Even if we don't, nothing will or even should happen before Thanksgiving weekend. When Bret (as all coaches do) decides to leave on his own or is terminated, I will wish him well and look forward to the coaching search.
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2017, 10:33:40 pm »

Smh.
Sad.

There are a whole bunch of them that are "all in" with this regime. 

Handle this situation tenderly...

PRJ
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2017, 10:36:45 pm »

To this point, Bielema is a good football coach, a good man, who made a poor career move. He wasn't the first to do that, and he won't be the last. Happens across all professions.

As long as he is our football coach, I hope he does well. I would like nothing better than for us to correct the issues that have us at 1-2 and have a good season. Even if we don't, nothing will or even should happen before Thanksgiving weekend. When Bret (as all coaches do) decides to leave on his own or is terminated, I will wish him well and look forward to the coaching search.

YES.  No need to be ways be dysfunctional bc of  Dale.  GO HOGS
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2017, 10:37:33 pm »

There are a whole bunch of them that are "all in" with this regime. 

Handle this situation tenderly...

PRJ
Just funny they sell out the program because they like how someone speaks. So much for judging based on their results. Guess itís the everyone gets atrophy crowd that has screwed everything up. Oh well.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2017, 10:41:44 pm »

Just funny they sell out the program because they like how someone speaks. So much for judging based on their results. Guess itís the everyone gets atrophy crowd that has screwed everything up. Oh well.

Yes indeed. They can't admit he is in overy his head. His old boss yesterday admitted in a round about way that he was in over his head. A good coach would spot, after 5 years, what he can do and can't do with a team...same ole, same Ole of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It ain't gonna work. It is never gonna work.

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2017, 10:42:10 pm »

when dale nutt was here, we believed the lie. we didn't know it until it had been 10 years that we had been bamboozled. we have to be smarter than that.
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2017, 10:42:54 pm »

Just funny they sell out the program because they like how someone speaks. So much for judging based on their results. Guess itís the everyone gets atrophy crowd that has screwed everything up. Oh well.

And it has been apparent for 5 years they are Bielema supporters to the very end.

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2017, 10:44:23 pm »

when dale nutt was here, we believed the lie. we didn't know it until it had been 10 years that we had been bamboozled. we have to be smarter than that.

Naw...it was way before 10 years for some of us with Hooten. But alot here have taken Bret's bait hook, line and sinker...and they hit hard...

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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2017, 10:49:17 pm »

Yes indeed. They can't admit he is in overy his head. His old boss yesterday admitted in a round about way that he was in over his head. A good coach would spot, after 5 years, what he can do and can't do with a team...same ole, same Ole of trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. It ain't gonna work. It is never gonna work.

PRJ

PRJ let me tell it how it is..


I appreciated u interviewing Nutt on the field..thank u

but beyond that...

You've brought NOTHNING to the table NADA home-goatinging-wearing brotha NOTHING to the table:

BB is a GOOD coach.  He has not produced here so he must go.  He is NOT a vindictive soul, he will go with much future  no need for Darksider schtick so LET IT GO
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« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2017, 10:52:39 pm »

Man, y'all could throw the ball clear over them mountains in 2007.
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« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2017, 11:00:11 pm »

PRJ let me tell it how it is..


I appreciated u interviewing Nutt on the field..thank u

but beyond that...

You've brought NOTHNING to the table NADA home-goatinging-wearing brotha NOTHING to the table:

BB is a GOOD coach.  He has not produced here so he must go.  He is NOT a vindictive soul, he will go with much future  no need for Darksider schtick so LET IT GO

LMAO....What exactly do or have you brought? Jacksquat...jacksquat.

You can run that good coach all day long. He was propped up by Barry at Whisky and there isn't anybody here to prop him up.

I tell ya what...point to me where, in 5 years this guy has shown a knack to adust to a game? Show me one. Show me where this guy, gameplans, outschemes, outworks, out adjusts and flat outcoaches another coach? You can't because it ain't happened...and isn't going to happen.

You run in here, just like you used too...wave your wand around and expect the crowd to quiet...there is not a single soul on here that has even mentioned going Nutty on Bret. Not one. There has not been an outpouring of outright hatred and disdain for Bret like there was Houston. NOT.A.BIT...and here is the best part....THERE.ISNT.GOING.TO.BE any movement toward that.

But you gotta create the illusion don't you?

Bravo Swaggart.

PRJ
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« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2017, 11:05:51 pm »

I would disagree strongly that he was ever a GOOD Coach!  Is it NOT apparent by now that he was nothing more than a figure head? Geez.    Alvarez runs that team PERIOD.  Always has. 
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« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2017, 11:09:40 pm »

BB> HN

It is NOT the same situation.

Support these kids.  BB will NOT be vindictive like Dale.  The transition will be smooth.  There is a slight possibility a player or 2 can turn this around.  REGARDLESS, support the TEAM.

This is a no-brainer.

Carry on. May the force be with us all.



But BB IS vindictive. You can't tell me he doesn't pick favorites. Froholdt is a prime example. Beliema WANTS him to play regardless of competition at his position or Froholdt's ability at the position.

BB most certainly plays favorites, which is being vindictive to players that he doesn't like as much. You can't tell me that Clary is better at that position than a player who started multiple games last season. There is reason the offensive line is a wreck. Coaches talk about chemistry. You can't have chemistry when the entire line knows that you're only playing because you're teacher's pet.
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« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2017, 11:10:08 pm »

I would disagree strongly that he was ever a GOOD Coach!  Is it NOT apparent by now that he was nothing more than a figure head? Geez.    Alvarez runs that team PERIOD.  Always has.

No kiddn.  While at Arkansas he's had as  many or more embarrassing losses as he's had impressive wins, thrown multiple assistant coaches and players under the bus, flopped on national tv, suckered millions of fans into staying on.............
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« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2017, 11:10:23 pm »

To this point, Bielema is a good football coach, a good man, who made a poor career move. He wasn't the first to do that, and he won't be the last. Happens across all professions.

As long as he is our football coach, I hope he does well. I would like nothing better than for us to correct the issues that have us at 1-2 and have a good season. Even if we don't, nothing will or even should happen before Thanksgiving weekend. When Bret (as all coaches do) decides to leave on his own or is terminated, I will wish him well and look forward to the coaching search.
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« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2017, 11:11:04 pm »

I would disagree strongly that he was ever a GOOD Coach!  Is it NOT apparent by now that he was nothing more than a figure head? Geez.    Alvarez runs that team PERIOD.  Always has. 

I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.
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« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2017, 11:13:48 pm »

I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.

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« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2017, 11:20:00 pm »

I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.
I suspect people would be surprised on how much Alvarez was/is involved in day to day operations of that team.  I think in many ways he has stayed the head coach. 
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« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2017, 11:22:37 pm »

Amen.

I am with you 100%.

Count me in.
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« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2017, 11:23:35 pm »

I don't care who built the program; you don't win as many games as Bielema did at UW without being a good coach.  At Arkansas, however, you have to be better than "good."  Arkansas is a tough job.  It can be done here, but we have to get the right coach.  Bielema just didn't work out.


Every program in the SECW is a tough place to win 10 or more a year, even Bama.  It's not just tough for Arkansas.  No excuse for not consistently winning 3 or 4 renters and 4 to 6 conference games most all seasons.  Apparently the stories are true about Alvarez making it work at Wisconsin for him. 
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I think hogville needs a 'circle of trust'
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Every program in the SECW is a tough place to win 10 or more a year, even Bama.  It's not just tough for Arkansas.  No excuse for not consistently winning 3 or 4 renters and 4 to 6 conference games most all seasons.  Apparently the stories are true about Alvarez making it work at Wisconsin for him. 

He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.
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« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2017, 11:34:03 pm »

He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.

Being a good coach doesn't translate into being a "good" head coach. He is in over his head here. And that is just the way it is. Heck, I thought at one time Gus was a great coach. He was...as an OC. As a head coach...? Not worth a piss.

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« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2017, 11:36:17 pm »

He was a LB coach for Hayden Fry and Co-DC for Bill Snyder before working for Alvarez.  You don't get to where he is without being a "good" coach.

We need at *least* a "great" coach.
I would agree he was probably a good coordinator.  Those do not always make good head coaches. 
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« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2017, 11:36:49 pm »

Being a good coach doesn't translate into being a "good" head coach. He is in over his head here. And that is just the way it is. Heck, I thought at one time Gus was a great coach. He was...as an OC. As a head coach...? Not worth a piss.

PRJ

Jesus Christ, Jimmy, I've been saying that for years now. 
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« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2017, 11:37:11 pm »

There are a whole bunch of them that are "all in" with this regime. 

Handle this situation tenderly...

PRJ
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« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2017, 11:44:50 pm »

You want BB fired? I say we fire you...


Oh My...I have angered the head of the pom pom squad...what will I ever do. You get to preform that routine you and the boys worked up last week at Jerry place?

I tell you what McKinney...I will let you convince me that the guy should stay. Point out to me where he actually shows he is the right coach for this program. Tell me where his schemes are good. Where player development excells. Tell me of the great moves he has made during the game.

Instead of running on here bumping your gums...for once, convince me he is the dude. Tell me of his virtue. I bet you cant.

PRJ
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2017, 11:48:29 pm »

Jesus Christ, Jimmy, I've been saying that for years now. 

Lol...well, you were right....

PRJ
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2017, 11:50:34 pm »

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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2017, 11:53:25 pm »


Oh My...I have angered the head of the pom pom squad...what will I ever do. You get to preform that routine you and the boys worked up last week at Jerry place?

I tell you what McKinney...I will let you convince me that the guy should stay. Point out to me where he actually shows he is the right coach for this program. Tell me where his schemes are good. Where player development excells. Tell me of the great moves he has made during the game.

Instead of running on here bumping your gums...for once, convince me he is the dude. Tell me of his virtue. I bet you cant.

PRJ
He's staying at a minimum to the end of the year no matter how much you bitch. Adults will decide AFTER this season if its financially the correct move to replace him at that point. Calling for him to be fired now is unrealistic and does nothing but hurt the program. All I'm asking is to wait till the end of the season and then start the process. Nothing good will come of calling for his head now. Also, please keep in mind that we lost our #1 RB Williams and now our #1 receiver to injuries. That's a big deal rather you won't to admit it or not.
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Re: I am an ORIGINAL DARKSIDER, HERE IS WHAT WE DO:
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2017, 12:00:45 am »

He's staying at a minimum to the end of the year no matter how much you bitch. Adults will decide AFTER this season if its financially the correct move to replace him at that point. Calling for him to be fired now is unrealistic and does nothing but hurt the program. I'll I'm asking is to wait till the end of the season and then start the process. Nothing good will come of calling for his head now.

So you cant? I feared as much.

He isn't getting fired before the end of the season, if it happens at all. You have to quit getting worked up everytime someone goes negative on him. This is a message board..for.fans...of Arkansas..there are going to be differing opinions...and some, after every loss mounts, are gonna call for him to be fired. Sad reality but it is gonna happen.

I know you are a Bret fan and this while deal is sobering for you and very hard to swallow...hell, maybe even breathe...but I am pulling for you McKinney. I really am.

Seriously...I know your heart is in the right place.

PRJ
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