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Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« on: September 18, 2017, 08:54:17 am »

Sumlin  is at #4 and Bielema has moved up to #5.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2017, 10:25:20 am »

Per......?
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2017, 10:28:54 am »

Sumlin  is at #4 and Bielema has moved up to #5.
Loser wins!!!! ;)
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2017, 10:31:08 am »

Per......?

http://www.coacheshotseat.com/CoachesHotSeatRanking.htm

When they thought up the Southwest Classic I'm sure they expected it would be a Top 5 showdown but not this soon.

Graham, Riley, and Whipple all look worried.

Ed the Ogre fell 101 places from #109 to #8 but moving down in the bottom 10 isn't easy.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2017, 10:50:45 am »

                             

                     Welcome to the UHaul Bowl where the Losing Coach wins free moving at the end of the season from UHAUL!
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2017, 10:59:38 am »

Look, I don't think A&M is a good football team right now, nor do I think Sumlin deserves a ton of slack... but the guy has lost Kenny Hill, Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray to transfer, Trevor Knight to graduation, and now their starting QB, Jake Hubenak, and their backup QB, Nick Starkel, to injuries.

If we're keeping track here... that's six quarterbacks in the span of a year and half.

Not saying some of that attrition wasn't Sumlin's fault. I'm just saying that Bielema has come by his woes honestly.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2017, 11:03:24 am »

Look, I don't think A&M is a good football team right now, nor do I think Sumlin deserves a ton of slack... but the guy has lost Kenny Hill, Kyle Allen and Kyler Murray to transfer, Trevor Knight to graduation, and now their starting QB, Jake Hubenak, and their backup QB, Nick Starkel, to injuries.

If we're keeping track here... that's six quarterbacks in the span of a year and half.

Not saying some of that attrition wasn't Sumlin's fault. I'm just saying that Bielema has come by his woes honestly.

This is all true. But like our coach, their coach is responsible for the roster. He mishandled so many QB's tryign to find his next johnny paycheck. He didn't build quality depth. If you listen around here, you will hear this same complaint about our coach. The difference for Sumlin is that his recruiting area is about perfect. He gets texas while the longhorns stink. It doesn't get better than that. There is no excuse for not having talented players at every spot.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2017, 11:04:20 am »

How exactly did CBB move up two spots with a bye week?
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2017, 11:05:17 am »

How exactly did CBB move up two spots with a bye week?

Maybe coaches above him won. Maybe it takes into account fan board ire which is crazy high right now.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2017, 11:22:31 am »

Playing for pink slips.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2017, 11:28:33 am »

Agree that Sumlin has been dealt a tough hand with all the QB departures.  He has had some good one's and at least one of them should be an upper classman with experience.

But like a poster above mentioned...in spite of all the good recruiting done to get those QB's, he was terrible in the way he managed them.  He swithched QB's like we change our underwear...or most of us anyway.  He ran them off.  His own fault..thus he is on the hot seat and rightfully so.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2017, 11:32:08 am »

The Dallas Dumpster Fire Elimination Match 2017

"There can be only one..."
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2017, 11:36:46 am »

Agree that Sumlin has been dealt a tough hand with all the QB departures.  He has had some good one's and at least one of them should be an upper classman with experience.

But like a poster above mentioned...in spite of all the good recruiting done to get those QB's, he was terrible in the way he managed them.  He swithched QB's like we change our underwear...or most of us anyway.  He ran them off.  His own fault..thus he is on the hot seat and rightfully so.

He dealt that hand himself.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2017, 11:37:18 am »

Maybe coaches above him won. Maybe it takes into account fan board ire which is crazy high right now.

 That and 26-27 in 5 years will do it. Hell Ed O is on such a short leash that his 2nd loss has him on the edge...
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2017, 11:39:45 am »

Sumlin  is at #4 and Bielema has moved up to #5.
These two guys are on completely different levels of hot seat.
Barring a miracle season, Sumlin is getting fired; barring a complete program collapse, Bielema is here next year.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2017, 11:44:55 am »

These two guys are on completely different levels of hot seat.
Barring a miracle season, Sumlin is getting fired; barring a complete program collapse, Bielema is here next year.

Kind of agree.  I think if Sumlin can somehow win 8 again, they'll allow him to stay on another year.  ...knowing the injuries and QB issues he's had to deal with.  Also, he has a very young team.   If Bielema wins 7 again, he'll probably have life until next season.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2017, 11:53:00 am »

This shows you what the hotseat fellers know.  BB is not on anyone who matters hotseat.  Sumlin likely is.  A&M won't put up with losing and canning the coach is not a huge problem for them.  Us, we gotta take into consideration the 11 million and Jeff Longs feelings. 
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2017, 12:14:25 pm »

This shows you what the hotseat fellers know.  BB is not on anyone who matters hotseat.  Sumlin likely is.  A&M won't put up with losing and canning the coach is not a huge problem for them.  Us, we gotta take into consideration the 11 million and Jeff Longs feelings. 

If CBB loses to A&M again, with all their struggles, particularly if the team looks unprepared and incompetent after two weeks to prepare, you might want to revisit that statement.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2017, 12:55:49 pm »

Agree that Sumlin has been dealt a tough hand with all the QB departures.  He has had some good one's and at least one of them should be an upper classman with experience.

But like a poster above mentioned...in spite of all the good recruiting done to get those QB's, he was terrible in the way he managed them.  He swithched QB's like we change our underwear...or most of us anyway.  He ran them off.  His own fault..thus he is on the hot seat and rightfully so.

I think this a result of recruiting style. You have to be very careful not to make promises or insinuate to a recruit that he's "the" guy, especially at QB. That's a hard instinct to fight, because as a coach, you know how much a QB can influence your program. The down side of this is is you may miss out on some big time QBs. But you run the risk of getting into a mess when you end up with three guys who are all five and four star guys who feel that you led them to believe they were the future Johnny Manziel.

Now, should a Kyle Allen or a Kyler Murray be able to handle competition and prove their worth? Sure. But you gotta be careful what you promise an 17 year old kid who has dreams of being in the NFL.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2017, 01:39:23 pm »

Sumlin made is mess, so has Bielema.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2017, 02:22:54 pm »

                             

                     Welcome to the UHaul Bowl where the Losing Coach wins free moving at the end of the season from UHAUL!

Coaches that make $4MM don't UHaul.
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2017, 02:24:08 pm »

Both of them are on their way out and should be looking for their next gig.
Sumlin probably goes first at the end of the year or sooner, while we are stuck with Bret (thanks Jeff) for another year.
There are going to be a lot of coaches with new jobs at the end of this season.   
If we are forced to keep Brett one more year (once again thanks Jeff), then hopefully we can get Brohm.   
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Re: Sumlin/Bielema Hot Seat
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 02:26:38 pm »

How exactly did CBB move up two spots with a bye week?



How you gonna get fired on your day off?
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