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Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« on: June 29, 2017, 03:50:48 am »

So Tebow just got moved up to A+ after hitting .220/.311/.336 in the league below.  However in his first AB last night for the St. Lucie Mets, Tebow hit a HR and finished 3/5 the night.  Some are already talking like they will probably move him to the majors come September based on how the Mets are doing this year...

With that said, do you think this is an embarrassment to the game or do you find that it could be good for the game?  Tebow is just so damn polarizing...just like he was in the NFL.  I have a hard time rooting against him myself, he is just a straight up genuine guy IMO, trying to chase a dream.  It is not his fault he has become a product of marketing and publicity, he is just doing his thing.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 05:55:39 am »

Although I made this avatar in the UF football days, I had to weigh in with some numbers: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tim-tebow-is-failing-up/

That said, I actually don't mind Tebow nearly as much as when he was in college. Actually is a pretty good person from all indications.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 06:36:52 am »

I think he's probably going to be moved up unfairly over better players that don't have a famous name yet. It's all about ticket sales and polarizing figures create drama and intrigue. So, it's good for the game's bottom line but not much else.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 10:26:10 am »

he is just a straight up genuine guy IMO, trying to chase a dream.  It is not his fault he has become a product of marketing and publicity, he is just doing his thing.

You talking about a guy that when Elway let him dictate where he went since he sort of got a raw deal in Denver, that he picked less playing time and worse situation for him in NY over better options in less market friendly cities? 

Or are you talking about the guy who happens to play for the mets organization and not the twins? 

Good guy or not - I never assume anything about people just because they show a side in a heated moment on the field or in a specific marketing way through the media - I don't think you can blame "others" for the marketing ploy.  Yes, ESPN has made a lot of money off of Tebow, and Tebow has specifically made money from ESPN. 
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 11:14:45 am »

I'm pulling for him to make it, I would like to see him earn his way to the show, but I do think they will try to capitalize on his drawing power like they did with Jordan. That is the part that where the money wins out, and the ball club gets caught in the middle, but that's also the cool thing about the minor leagues.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 12:17:07 pm »

So Tebow just got moved up to A+ after hitting .220/.311/.336 in the league below.  However in his first AB last night for the St. Lucie Mets, Tebow hit a HR and finished 3/5 the night.  Some are already talking like they will probably move him to the majors come September based on how the Mets are doing this year...

With that said, do you think this is an embarrassment to the game or do you find that it could be good for the game?  Tebow is just so damn polarizing...just like he was in the NFL.  I have a hard time rooting against him myself, he is just a straight up genuine guy IMO, trying to chase a dream.  It is not his fault he has become a product of marketing and publicity, he is just doing his thing.

LETS NOT!!!
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 01:24:41 pm »

Just curious as to why this thread was started in EI? It has nothing to do with anything related to Razorback baseball.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 01:55:19 pm »

I've never understood the hate for Tebow. I hope he succeeds.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 02:17:45 pm »

Just curious as to why this thread was started in EI? It has nothing to do with anything related to Razorback baseball.

Because it's the off-season, it's baseball, and it's good conversation.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 02:35:59 pm »

Because it's the off-season, it's baseball, and it's good conversation.

Off Season: Yep
Baseball: Yep
Good Conversation: Extremely debatable
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2017, 03:57:14 pm »

Off Season: Yep
Baseball: Yep
Good Conversation: Extremely debatable



We better hide fellows, the thread police are here.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2017, 04:23:05 pm »

Off Season: Yep
Baseball: Yep
Good Conversation: Extremely debatable


Are you blind? High? Drunk? An idiot?

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not an idiot but it's hard to defend someone who knowingly clicks on a thread in which he publicly states isn't good discussion. That's odd....I would spit on it and wait for the next one.....but not you.

From now on, when I need help deciding what should be allowed here....I'll just send you a message. You can rest assured your feelings and opinions will be thrust to the forefront of this forum. I'm gonna really invest in you....so don't let me down.

Since I'm giving you so much responsibility....I guess you won't need to interject in the thread itself.....you can just wait on my PM. That way you won't have to spend so much time wading through bad discussion threads that are beneath you.

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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2017, 05:47:10 pm »

Man, I find this so interesting!  I mean he is one of the most polarizing athletes of all time!  And you can clearly see that everyone in this thread is split pretty evenly with whether or not they are for or against Tebow, fascinating.  The crazy thing is that I really cannot argue anyones opinion either way.  Both sides have extremely valid points.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2017, 05:51:24 pm »

You talking about a guy that when Elway let him dictate where he went since he sort of got a raw deal in Denver, that he picked less playing time and worse situation for him in NY over better options in less market friendly cities? 

Or are you talking about the guy who happens to play for the mets organization and not the twins? 

Good guy or not - I never assume anything about people just because they show a side in a heated moment on the field or in a specific marketing way through the media - I don't think you can blame "others" for the marketing ploy.  Yes, ESPN has made a lot of money off of Tebow, and Tebow has specifically made money from ESPN.

Very interesting, I had not ever really thought about the markets he was going into, but you may be on to something here.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 06:21:14 pm »

Just curious as to why this thread was started in EI? It has nothing to do with anything related to Razorback baseball.

What do you not understand about the one hundred times you been told?

Something along the lines of my way or the highway.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 12:31:11 am »

He has no more business playing professional baseball than Michael Jordan did.  Just something for the tourists to gawk at cause, you know, there is a sucker born every minute.  Has nothing at all to do with baseball.  Just a road show attraction for folks that don't know anything about baseball.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2017, 02:13:30 am »

Off Season: Yep
Baseball: Yep
Good Conversation: Extremely debatable

Some of us like to discuss and read baseball.  Why don't you start a better thread here then and quit being a d-bag.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2017, 08:19:13 am »

He has no more business playing professional baseball than Michael Jordan did.  Just something for the tourists to gawk at cause, you know, there is a sucker born every minute.  Has nothing at all to do with baseball.  Just a road show attraction for folks that don't know anything about baseball.

I agree with the attraction part of it but, should he not able to pursue it? What if he gets it in a year or so, and he's playing in NY hitting .340 with good power numbers? Nobody will know if that's possible or not with out some time in the minors getting as many at bats as possible.

A friend of mine used to joke about single A ball, he said you don't know if a guy can hit in single A, because the pitching is so bad, anybody that could actually pitch had already been moved up.
While we know that's not entirely correct, his point was, some guy's actually don't start really producing at the plate until they get advanced a level or two.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2017, 10:00:54 pm »

I can't remember the last time I saw any sports personality get more undeserved attention....................................
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2017, 09:15:59 am »

I can't remember the last time I saw any sports personality get more undeserved attention....................................

My sentiments exactly. It's making a joke of the "system" IMO.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2017, 12:37:28 pm »

My sentiments exactly. It's making a joke of the "system" IMO.

Lavar Ball?
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2017, 03:11:53 pm »

Lavar Ball?

Well, I don't know if it is that extreme... But close! lol
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2017, 08:41:28 pm »

I can't remember the last time I saw any sports personality get more undeserved attention....................................
Heisman, 2 national championships while in school. Let's not act like he hasn't done anything to get attention
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2017, 06:09:12 am »

I think he's probably going to be moved up unfairly over better players that don't have a famous name yet. It's all about ticket sales and polarizing figures create drama and intrigue. So, it's good for the game's bottom line but not much else.
It is partly about ticket sales for sure. But they also are looking at a guy who is nearly thirty years old, and they need to know now what they have before they invest much more into a guy who is not getting any  younger.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2017, 08:53:47 am »

Tebow is off to a hot start in High A ball, surprising mostly everyone.  He is on a 9 game hit streak, and batting .318 w/ a . 912 OPS in 44 AB.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2017, 07:10:06 pm »

My sentiments exactly. It's making a joke of the "system" IMO.

A joke of the system is the Padres drafting Johnny Foosball a few years ago.
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2017, 08:59:07 pm »

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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2017, 09:19:30 pm »

A joke of the system is the Padres drafting Johnny Foosball a few years ago.

No worse than him getting drafted in the first round of the NFL draft.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2017, 10:32:48 am »

Seems Teblow is earning it on the field.  So i am in the good for the game corner.  I have never been a fan of his, but i do not begrudge him trying to make a living.  I mean if he had started on the Mets MLB roster from day one i think that woulda been a problem, but he is playing and will be moved apparently according to how well he does.  I mean it is a huge long shot for him to make it/stay in the MLB but that is the result for alot of very talented people.

Right now Tebow is helping alot of local economies lol.
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« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2017, 10:25:33 am »

Heisman, 2 national championships while in school. Let's not act like he hasn't done anything to get attention

That was a LONG time ago and he was in college. Back then he deserved the attention..........not anymore for his career since.
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« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2017, 10:28:24 am »

Seems Teblow is earning it on the field.  So i am in the good for the game corner.  I have never been a fan of his, but i do not begrudge him trying to make a living.  I mean if he had started on the Mets MLB roster from day one i think that woulda been a problem, but he is playing and will be moved apparently according to how well he does.  I mean it is a huge long shot for him to make it/stay in the MLB but that is the result for alot of very talented people.

Right now Tebow is helping alot of local economies lol.

He will have earned all the attention he's getting now IF he were in the majors. He isn't. NOBODY at that level deserves the attention he's getting. Heck that level is less than the SEC baseball level in a lot of people's opinion. Maybe even less than all the P5 conferences level.
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Re: Lets talk Tebow - Good or bad for the game?
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2017, 08:26:38 am »

I love it.  Polarising becaude He walks the walk in his Christian faith and so many hate him for that.   He is talented ball player but I have no idea about what level in baseball he should play, if he is promoted up to sell tickets and he plays poorly then it will be a marketing head ache but let's face the facts its all about the money.   Strike while the iron is hot mentality.

I like Tebow and want him to do well. Let it play out.
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