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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2017, 02:29:36 pm »

I think it's tapwrit, IWC, epicharis for the win.  Looking at lucky keyed in 2nd -4th
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2017, 04:56:18 pm »

Tapwrit is who I'm looking at ..
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2017, 08:58:52 pm »

I hate this. Would've been a major bet against for me.
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2017, 06:18:45 am »

I am with you on Tapwrit and maybe make a little money    Not sure what the public will put him at
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2017, 09:40:12 am »

Epicharis may be scratched too. That would also be bad as I didn't have him as a contender.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/221992/epicharis-does-not-train-after-lameness-treatment
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2017, 09:44:40 am »

Epicharis may be scratched too. That would also be bad as I didn't have him as a contender.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/221992/epicharis-does-not-train-after-lameness-treatment


This is more common than you'd think. I could be wrong but doubt he is scratched.
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2017, 05:00:48 pm »

This is more common than you'd think. I could be wrong but doubt he is scratched.
May not be but you don't want your horse with issues two days before the longest and hardest race of his life. I hope he runs and takes a lot of money.
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2017, 08:54:44 pm »

I am dismissing the sprint pedigree of Mutliplier (The Factor was a rocket at a mile or less) and really think he wins this race by grinding it out the last 1/16 of a mile.  His win in the IL Derby was much better than the speed figs show and love the way he did it.  My pick and pretty confident now against this field.
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2017, 09:09:46 pm »

I am dismissing the sprint pedigree of Mutliplier (The Factor was a rocket at a mile or less) and really think he wins this race by grinding it out the last 1/16 of a mile.  His win in the IL Derby was much better than the speed figs show and love the way he did it.  My pick and pretty confident now against this field.
Remember Palace Malice? Horses can win the Belmont Stakes on the front end. Someone's going to the front and gonna try and grind it out and I'm leaning that way too...just don't know if Multiplier is the horse to do it. Meantime with Mike Smith or Irish War Cry all have early speed. May be a jockeys race once again.
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2017, 10:29:11 pm »

Remember Palace Malice? Horses can win the Belmont Stakes on the front end. Someone's going to the front and gonna try and grind it out and I'm leaning that way too...just don't know if Multiplier is the horse to do it. Meantime with Mike Smith or Irish War Cry all have early speed. May be a jockeys race once again.

I don't think he will go to the front but I do expect him to never be more than 3 maybe 4 lengths off and he makes a slow steady kind of grind to the lead.  He seems to be a boring type runner who will like the distance, like maybe making up a length per furlong the last 1/2 mile of the race...but who knows at this crazy distance?
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2017, 11:29:15 pm »

I'm working Saturday so I'm putting my bet in tomorrow.

Betting a $1 tri 7,9/7,9,10,12/all $60 bet. Good luck all!
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2017, 01:50:50 pm »

2/9,10/6-11
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2017, 08:52:36 am »

Epicharis scratched for not passing a vet exam ...
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2017, 09:39:20 am »

I am playing a pick 3 starting with race 9 and ending with the 11th which is the Belmont Stakes:
2,5,12/6,9/6,9,10
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2017, 09:50:51 am »

I really like sharp azteca in the 9th ...but economic model will be right there as well ?
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2017, 05:44:46 pm »

I think it's tapwrit, IWC, epicharis for the win.  Looking at lucky keyed in 2nd -4th
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2017, 05:50:14 pm »

2 Tapwrit
7 Irish War Cry
12 Patch
3 Gormley
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2017, 05:55:40 pm »

5th Senior Investment
6th Twisted Tom
7th Lookin At Lee
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2017, 06:05:31 pm »

I hate blaming a loss on a jockey, but no way in the world should IWC have been up on the lead as long as he was.  I think he wins the Belmont if they would have held him back a bit until they had gone about a mile.  I think he was the best horse in the race honestly...just my 2 cents.
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2017, 06:34:00 pm »

I hate blaming a loss on a jockey, but no way in the world should IWC have been up on the lead as long as he was.  I think he wins the Belmont if they would have held him back a bit until they had gone about a mile.  I think he was the best horse in the race honestly...just my 2 cents.
BS he was fouled by Tapwrit... Jockey damn near hit him in the face with his stick after coming in 5 wide and almost putting IWC in the rail. Total BS not to DQ Tapwrit.
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Re: Classic Empire out of the Belmont
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2017, 12:46:28 pm »

I really thought the jockey moved too early on Tapwrit but I guess that's why I'm sitting on the couch watching the race.
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