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New Hog: Jalen Harris
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:52:07 pm »

For those of you that do not venture to the bball recruiting forum, the Hogs picked up New Mexico Lobos PG transfer Jalen Harris tonight. Committed on his visit. Will sit out this season and have 3 to play.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2017, 11:07:57 pm »

beast. sick handles. underrated. will be three years older than this tape when he sees the court for us, so... eeeee

http://247sports.com/Video/Jalen-Harris-Underrated-PG-with-HANDLES-H-3524170?View=Full
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2017, 11:12:43 pm »

Great get
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2017, 11:27:57 pm »

I REALLY hope he proves me wrong but I can't say I'm particularly impressed with his numbers. Again I hope he proves me wrong and maybe we have a system he can thrive in.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2017, 11:33:41 pm »

I REALLY hope he proves me wrong but I can't say I'm particularly impressed with his numbers. Again I hope he proves me wrong and maybe we have a system he can thrive in.

The consensus among Lobo fans (according to a message board I read) was that Craig Neal (who was actually fired AFTER Jalen asked for his release) held not only Jalen but several players back. They said he also had Jalen on a really tight leash and wouldn't let him open up offensively. Would pull him if he shoot "too much" (Jalen only averaged 3 FGA per game despite playing over 20 MPG and starting 18 games). They're excited that the new coach plays a faster style and they though Jalen would thrive under this new coach. I think all this context matters here, and helps explain why Jalen wanted to leave.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 11:42:59 pm »

He is a Hog now, let's hope for the best!
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2017, 12:44:30 am »

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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2017, 12:49:26 am »

The consensus among Lobo fans (according to a message board I read) was that Craig Neal (who was actually fired AFTER Jalen asked for his release) held not only Jalen but several players back. They said he also had Jalen on a really tight lease and wouldn't let him open up offensively. Would pull him if he shoot "too much" (Jalen only averaged 3 FGA per game despite playing over 20 MPG and starting 18 games). They're excited that the new coach plays a faster style and they though Jalen would thrive under this new coach. I think all this context matters here, and helps explain why Jalen wanted to leave.

Agreed. Also interesting Weir, new UNM coach, plans to run an uptempo motion offense/press like MA's.

Excited to see how Harris pans out. Glad he's a hog, lots of potential.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2017, 12:50:08 am »

Agreed. Also interesting Weir, new UNM coach, plans to run an uptempo motion offense/press like MA's.

Yeah, I read he was considering going back
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2017, 07:53:50 am »

They said he also had Jalen on a really tight lease and wouldn't let him open up offensively.

Perhaps he should have just stayed in a dorm.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 08:29:04 am »

https://youtu.be/RRBRqwsR4bA

Kid is definitely very talented. Look at those handles!
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 08:29:56 am »

Perhaps he should have just stayed in a dorm.

Ha! Good catch.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2017, 10:31:12 am »

Kid is definitely very talented. Look at those handles!

Haven't watched anything like that since Reid and Fortson.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2017, 10:35:13 am »

Wonder why none of the the Carolina schools wanted him. Maybe just wanted out of state...
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2017, 11:09:39 am »

Holy RAMS! That is a pretty video. Does remind me of Fortson and Reid, but longer, right? The height on some of those blocks were as impressive as some of the passes.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2017, 11:22:31 am »

Wonder why none of the the Carolina schools wanted him. Maybe just wanted out of state...

Response: Regarding this young man from the film clips I've seen clearly displays his skills sets as a true PG, he is not a combo guard. Harris appears to be fast/quick and has a good handle with the dribble of the basketball he's able to break down defenses for assists or baskets.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2017, 02:19:11 pm »

This is GREAT news.  If Macon and Barford come back, Razorback basketball has the chance to have sustained success for years to come.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2017, 03:00:40 pm »

Nice pickup. WPS!

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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2017, 03:02:51 pm »

The consensus among Lobo fans (according to a message board I read) was that Craig Neal (who was actually fired AFTER Jalen asked for his release) held not only Jalen but several players back. They said he also had Jalen on a really tight leash and wouldn't let him open up offensively. Would pull him if he shoot "too much" (Jalen only averaged 3 FGA per game despite playing over 20 MPG and starting 18 games). They're excited that the new coach plays a faster style and they though Jalen would thrive under this new coach. I think all this context matters here, and helps explain why Jalen wanted to leave.

He will definitely get more than 3 field goal attempts per game in 2018.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2017, 04:42:41 pm »

When was the last time we had someone with handles like this?
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2017, 07:45:21 pm »

Love this commitment! Welcome aboard!!!
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2017, 08:37:39 am »

When was the last time we had someone with handles like this?

Fortson.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2017, 09:19:34 am »

Dude has made skills and superb vision..

Can't wait to see him play..

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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2017, 10:00:12 am »

He will definitely get more than 3 field goal attempts per game in 2018.

Without question.

For context, the only Razorbacks on this year's team to attempt 3 FG/game or less: Arlando Cook (2.47 FGA/game in 11.3 MPG), C.J. Jones (1.7 FGA/game in 6 MPG), Trey Thompson (1.5 FGA/game in 14 MPG), and Adrio Bailey (1.44 FGA/game in 7.4 MPG). Harris averaged 20.6 MPG, that would have put him in the Anton Beard/Manny Watkins range of minutes on this year's team. Those players averaged 4.6 and 5.9 FGA/game, respectively. How much different would the perception of this kid be if he had averaged 6-7 PPG as a freshman? I won't be surprised when this kid averages 6-9 PPG as a redshirt sophomore in an offense that actually encourages shot attempts.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2017, 11:47:28 am »

wonder if we are done?  Since he can't play till 2018 do we still go after a transfer
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2017, 11:48:46 am »

wonder if we are done?  Since he can't play till 2018 do we still go after a transfer

No spots open at present unless Barford and/or Macon decide to go pro.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2017, 11:58:05 am »

This is GREAT news.  If Macon and Barford come back, Razorback basketball has the chance to have sustained success for years to come.

They would never have the opportunity to play together, correct?
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2017, 12:12:09 pm »

They would never have the opportunity to play together, correct?

Right. But I don't think he's saying he will be able to play this year. "Sustained success" probably is not possible without Barford and Macon coming back, and adding a player who will have a year in the system once eligible helps offset losing 6 seniors after this coming season (assuming we actually have 6 seniors, that is).
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2017, 12:14:06 pm »

They would never have the opportunity to play together, correct?

Correct.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2017, 12:14:36 pm »

Right. But I don't think he's saying he will be able to play this year. "Sustained success" probably is not possible without Barford and Macon coming back, and adding a player who will have a year in the system once eligible helps offset losing 6 seniors after this coming season (assuming we actually have 6 seniors, that is).

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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2017, 12:28:18 pm »

Right. But I don't think he's saying he will be able to play this year. "Sustained success" probably is not possible without Barford and Macon coming back, and adding a player who will have a year in the system once eligible helps offset losing 6 seniors after this coming season (assuming we actually have 6 seniors, that is).

Gotcha and agree
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2017, 08:59:16 pm »

Haven't watched anything like that since Reid and Fortson.

He reminds me of Steph Curry and Allen Iverson wth his ball skills. Don't fooled by the production his freshman yr. Cant wait for him to lace them up us.

IMO, he is the best of all the PGs we have looked at, lately.


Kudos to the staff.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2017, 03:34:49 pm »

He reminds me of Steph Curry and Allen Iverson wth his ball skills. Don't fooled by the production his freshman yr. Cant wait for him to lace them up us.

IMO, he is the best of all the PGs we have looked at, lately.


Kudos to the staff.

Mine too, and I felt that way while the others were in play.
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2017, 03:44:12 pm »

Video of him playing at new mexico:

https://youtu.be/PtmeBONxNkg
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
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Re: New Hog: Jalen Harris
« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2017, 04:01:52 pm »

There is going to be some very exciting moments when Harris, Gafford, Perry, Garland, Jones, Bailey, Sills, Hall, and Joe are all on the same team. I'm seeing some deadly small-ball potential. I see us playing faster in the coming seasons. Slowly but surely we're seeing Hawg Ball return.
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