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Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« on: Today at 08:35:17 am »

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21798319/college-basketball-power-rankings-big-12-showing-strength

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22. Arkansas Razorbacks
Record: 8-2
Last week: 24

Suddenly, that nine-point win over Oklahoma on a neutral court looks a bit more impressive. The Razorbacks held Trae Young to his lowest assist output of the season, and he shot 8-for-18 from the floor. The 26-point loss to Houston still looks strange.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #1 on: Today at 08:44:44 am »

Nice.

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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #2 on: Today at 08:48:48 am »

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21798319/college-basketball-power-rankings-big-12-showing-strength

Props to ESPN power rankings.  I think they’re one of the first to actually figure out what Arkansas basketball is.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #3 on: Today at 08:56:12 am »

Don't get how that OK team we beat is that many spots ahead of us just because of the WState game
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #4 on: Today at 08:58:21 am »

Go Hogs!
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #5 on: Today at 09:05:32 am »

Don't get how that OK team we beat is that many spots ahead of us just because of the WState game

Because rankings are based on entire body of work. This early in the season it’s also a bit of projection/expectation.

Without the Houston loss we’d likely be ahead of OU. The Houston loss will matter less as the season goes on though. Especially if we keep winning.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #6 on: Today at 09:11:42 am »

Don't get how that OK team we beat is that many spots ahead of us just because of the WState game

I thought WSU was overrated this year from the beginning . Top 5 ? no way .
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #7 on: Today at 09:46:25 am »

Don't get how that OK team we beat is that many spots ahead of us just because of the WState game

Had we taken care of business @Houston we'd be a top 15 team.  We'll have to do some work to get people to forget that.  I still have a hard time understanding it.  Houston is pretty good, but still....
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #8 on: Today at 09:56:31 am »

ESPN says the "26 point loss to Houston looks strange," it's probably keeping us from being top 20, yet people on jumpball wondered why some of us were upset about it
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #9 on: Today at 10:10:05 am »

Had we taken care of business @Houston we'd be a top 15 team.  We'll have to do some work to get people to forget that.  I still have a hard time understanding it.  Houston is pretty good, but still....
I don't see why people have a "hard time understanding" that loss. It's basketball, losses like that happen to good teams all the time. The best team Mizzou ever had lost a game to the Hogs by almost 60 points.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #10 on: Today at 10:13:52 am »

ESPN says the "26 point loss to Houston looks strange," it's probably keeping us from being top 20, yet people on jumpball wondered why some of us were upset about it
Upset is not the same as immediately saying Mike can't get it done and Arkansas basketball is still down. 
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #11 on: Today at 10:14:32 am »

ESPN says the "26 point loss to Houston looks strange," it's probably keeping us from being top 20, yet people on jumpball wondered why some of us were upset about it

Nah, people didn't wonder why some were upset about it, they wondered why some were ready to declare the season a bust, fire the entire staff, demolish Bud Walton and burn the program to the ground over it.  There are some around here that love to overreact to any loss.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #12 on: Today at 11:07:16 am »

Not ranked in AP this week.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #13 on: Today at 11:12:03 am »

The Hogs are #17 in the Massey Composite Computer poll.  I like the composite because no algorithm is perfect and each has imperfect assumptions.  A poll of polls filters out some of the variances.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Interestingly Arkansas is not lower than #31 in any poll.  And that's why you don't overreact to any one loss in isolation, especially on the road and after ample evidence that the team has performed well against good competition.  The last three NCs have had multiple double-digit losses, a couple by 20+.  Duke's last 35-win NC lost by 26 at home to an NIT Miami team. Not many teams, even dominant ones, get through the season without the odd game or three where they stink up the joint.  There are matchups out there that can exploit any team on a given night.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #15 on: Today at 12:09:19 pm »

The Hogs are #17 in the Massey Composite Computer poll.  I like the composite because no algorithm is perfect and each has imperfect assumptions.  A poll of polls filters out some of the variances.

https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm

Interestingly Arkansas is not lower than #31 in any poll.  And that's why you don't overreact to any one loss in isolation, especially on the road and after ample evidence that the team has performed well against good competition.  The last three NCs have had multiple double-digit losses, a couple by 20+.  Duke's last 35-win NC lost by 26 at home to an NIT Miami team. Not many teams, even dominant ones, get through the season without the odd game or three where they stink up the joint.  There are matchups out there that can exploit any team on a given night.
I clicked on the link, and it has us #15.  Am I reading something wrong?
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #16 on: Today at 12:19:32 pm »

I clicked on the link, and it has us #15.  Am I reading something wrong?

It appears as though the ranking updates as the various polls are released.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #17 on: Today at 12:22:30 pm »

Nah, people didn't wonder why some were upset about it, they wondered why some were ready to declare the season a bust, fire the entire staff, demolish Bud Walton and burn the program to the ground over it.  There are some around here that love to overreact to any loss.

I didn't overreact to that loss. The team just made the mistake of taking Houston lightly and believed they could simply outscore the Cougars without playing much defense. Mike Anderson stated as much. He quite obviously got their attention because since that loss, the Hogs defense has really kicked in to high gear.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #18 on: Today at 12:35:58 pm »

It appears as though the ranking updates as the various polls are released.

Yeah, it updated since I posted.
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Re: Hogs sitting at #22 in latest ESPN Power Rankings
« Reply #19 on: Today at 12:52:24 pm »

The USA Today coaches' poll has posted.   Arkansas is tied with Virginia Tech for #27.

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/basketball-men/polls/coaches-poll/
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