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Mr.Swine89

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Scope Recommendations
« on: December 28, 2016, 08:20:13 pm »

I just bought a Howa 1500 in .223 for some target and varmint action. I'm looking for some recommendations for a good scope that's less than $500 and is in the ballpark of 4-1650
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2016, 08:29:40 pm »

I just bought a Howa 1500 in .223 for some target and varmint action. I'm looking for some recommendations for a good scope that's less than $500 and is in the ballpark of 4-1650

Depends on if you want the blue mint or the green peppermint scope.......

Oh..........you mean a scope for targeting.........nevermind... ;)
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2016, 08:36:31 pm »

truthfully anymore , there is not many bad choices . i've had great luck with Tasco, Simmons , Leupold and a Swarvoski . the Tasco has stood up to a 12 guage slug master and a 300 magnum . I have a friend who swears by Nikon . Zeiss offers 3 or 4 good choices under 500. Bushnell trophy extreme would fit for 250. Burris has several great options but may be a bit high. Vortex optics makes a very nice option . A 6.5 -20 x 50 BDC that is under 500
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 02:27:03 am »

Something to keep in mind.  For the same price, you will get better glass in a 40mm than a 50mm objective.  Personally, I'd rather have a better scope with a 40mm than spending more for the same quality 50mm, unless it will be used for low light or after dark a lot.

For $500, a leupold VX3i 4.5X14 CDS would be hard to beat. 
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1362253985/leupold-vx-3i-rifle-scope-45-14x-40mm-custom-dial-system-matte
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 08:38:13 am »

Look at ATN scopes!  Have fun
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2016, 11:43:14 am »

Yeah, a 50mm objective adds practically nothing except weight, ring height, and poor balance.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2017, 05:32:49 pm »

I don't have one but these are highly thought of and are decently priced

http://www.meoptasportsoptics.com/us/
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2017, 06:20:51 pm »

My next scope will be a Nikon Spot or Dot something like that. A friend of mine got one for his bd and was using on his .243 this year. Let me shoot it. It was awesome at longer ranges.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2017, 06:29:51 pm »

I like the Nikon P-223  4-12 on the 223 cal rifles, you should be able to find one for around $200.



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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2017, 09:01:56 pm »

Something to keep in mind.  For the same price, you will get better glass in a 40mm than a 50mm objective.  Personally, I'd rather have a better scope with a 40mm than spending more for the same quality 50mm, unless it will be used for low light or after dark a lot.

For $500, a leupold VX3i 4.5X14 CDS would be hard to beat. 
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1362253985/leupold-vx-3i-rifle-scope-45-14x-40mm-custom-dial-system-matte
The 50mm will have better light gathering capability than the 40?
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2017, 09:22:54 pm »

The 50mm will have better light gathering capability than the 40?

Yes, but you won't notice.  At 4.5x a 4.5 x 14 x 50 will give you an 11.1 exit pupil and bring in more light.  The thing is, your eye can only go up to about 7mm and any exit pupil bigger than that is more or less wasted.  Go smaller with better quality glass and coatings.

A 50 mm on a scope of less than $1000 is a gimick.  And even then, it is the glass and the coatings that make it great, not the objective size.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2017, 10:36:04 pm »

The 50mm will have better light gathering capability than the 40?

Only when everything else is equal does a 50mm lens allow more light through than a 40mm.  Scopes don't gather light, they only allow you to see what's there.  Better glass with better coatings in 40mm will beat cheaper glass and cheaper coatings of a 50mm every day.  Same quality costs more to go from 40mm to 50mm.  A 40mm moderate quality scope will allow you to shoot well past legal light, so what do you get with a more expensive, heavier 50mm?  Unless you will be shooting at night, you really don't need a 50mm lens.  If you are shooting at night, I'd go with a good quality 56mm.

Almost every rifle I own has a 2.5-8X36 scope.  I've never been handicapped in low light situations.  I also have two with 32mm and one with 20mm.  Both will still allow me to hunt dawn to dusk.  Bigger is not always better.  I'd rather spend as much as I can afford on better glass, not bigger.

7mm gets mentioned a lot as the largest usable exit pupil.  That is about the widest a young eye can dilate in complete dark.  For the average hunter in normal conditions, 4 to 5mm is the widest usable exit pupil.  Even the best glass with the best coatings lose a % of light.  Scopes have ten or more lenses and lose light, not gain.  The size of the objective is just one piece of the puzzle when it comes to determining which scope is best.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2017, 07:47:06 pm »

There is an article in the March 2017 (what day is it?) Rifle magazine about comparing night vision of different binoculars.  Not exactly the same discussion as scopes in low light, but same principles.

They compared two 8X32 and two 10X42 binos in typical pre-dawn conditions.  All were good quality binos with three being in the same price range and one considerably more.  As expected, the best quality 10X42 was the best, but the two 8X32s were better than the other similar priced 10X42.  For the same price range, the two 8X32s had better glass than the 10X42 and had better clarity and light transmission, even though they had lower magnification and a smaller exit pupil.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2017, 06:51:27 pm »

I settled on the Vortex Diamondback HP 4-1642 for the Howa.

http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-diamondback-hp-4-16x42-riflescope-with-dead-hold-bdc-reticle

I've also posted a picture of the gun. Short action .223 Howa 1500
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2017, 11:06:43 am »

Just put the scope on the Howa last night. Going to shot this weekend if the wind will quit. Will post a picture of the completed product later. Thanks for the help with everything.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2017, 11:07:01 am »

Just put the scope on the Howa last night. Going to shot this weekend if the wind will quit. Will post a picture of the completed product later. Thanks for the help with everything.

Dragging this one back up. How did it turn out, and are you happy with the scope?

Just got an AR-10 that I need to put some optics on and went looking for this thread for information, in anybody has any other  ideas I'd be glad to hear them too.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2017, 10:21:39 pm »

Dragging this one back up. How did it turn out, and are you happy with the scope?

Just got an AR-10 that I need to put some optics on and went looking for this thread for information, in anybody has any other  ideas I'd be glad to hear them too.

I love the Diamondback that I got. I have no complaints about anything. I've used it to target shoot out to 350 yards and hunted and killed coyotes at 200 yards. The light gathering is excellent and clarity at max magnification is impressive. It took me to around 8 shots to zero and it has mantained a zero since then. With that AR-10, I'd definitely recommend this scope. I also use a Nikon AR-223 and it is really excellent for the money. They make a .308 version with ballistic drop dots.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2017, 10:23:16 pm »

What Model did you get?
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2017, 01:21:18 pm »

What Model did you get?

I got a Palmetto State PA-10, pretty bare and basic right now, I am looking at scope, mount,  sling, and whatever else I can think of.

I do like everything I read and hear about the Vortex, so that's probably what I will go with, need to get my hands on one and see what I can mount it with to keep it low as possible. Thanks for the information.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2017, 09:56:24 pm »

This is my new toy. I'm looking for a good red dot set up on it. I just have a cheap ncstar on it right now that doesn't stayed zeroed well. Any thoughts?
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2017, 09:09:25 pm »

Dragging this one back up. How did it turn out, and are you happy with the scope?

Just got an AR-10 that I need to put some optics on and went looking for this thread for information, in anybody has any other  ideas I'd be glad to hear them too.

Schmidt and Bender.  Can't go wrong there.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2017, 10:24:36 pm »

This is my new toy. I'm looking for a good red dot set up on it. I just have a cheap ncstar on it right now that doesn't stayed zeroed well. Any thoughts?
burris fast fire III
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2017, 09:51:42 pm »

Decided to go with the Vortex Viper HS 4-16X44, didn't want to regret not spending a little more and not be happy with the longer range performance.

Picked it up today but had to order mounts, so can't try it out yet.

What is that Swine89, a.223? Pretty cool Looking toy, hope that's not the reason you have a blanket on the couch.😉
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2017, 10:23:00 am »

Simmons 44 mag is a great scope.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2017, 10:27:01 am »

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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2017, 10:59:29 am »

I still say Schmidt and Bender.
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Re: Scope Recommendations
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2017, 09:48:07 am »

Decided to go with the Vortex Viper HS 4-16X44, didn't want to regret not spending a little more and not be happy with the longer range performance.

Picked it up today but had to order mounts, so can't try it out yet.

What is that Swine89, a.223? Pretty cool Looking toy, hope that's not the reason you have a blanket on the couch.😉

You're right on with the .223

It's a Kel-Tec. I've now changed out the hand guard to an aluminum one and added a Burris Fastfire III to it. Its  beyond loud to fire, so I have my suppressor paperwork ready to go on it now. 
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