SECT: Discussion/INFO/Bracket

[razCzar]

2015 SEC Baseball Tournament (5/19-24)

• NOTE:  Thanks to Birminghog's Reply#4 below, the OP that originally occupied this space is still available for reference.  But now - for everybody's convenience - this post will be a regularly updated Schedule-Final Scores "flow-sheet" throughout tourney.

Bracket
http://www.secsports.com/bracket/baseball

Schedule
TV start times Central & from WatchESPN / secsports.com

TU:  First Round  (Single Elimination)
1  9:30   11 AL 6 - 6 OM 1
2  1:00   7 MO 5 - 10 SC 1
3  4:30   9 AU 6 - 8 KY 3
4  8:30   5 AR 2 - 12 TN 1    :razorback:

WED: Second Round  (Double Elimination)
5  9:30    3 AM vs 11 AL
6  1:00    2 VU vs 7 MO
7  4:30    1 LSU vs 9 AU
8  8:00    4 FL vs 5 AR          :razorback:

TH: Third Round  (Double Elimination) > potentially
9  9:30    Gm 5 loser     (AM/AL) vs Gm 6 loser (VU/MO)
10 1:00    Gm 7 loser   (LSU/AU) vs Gm 8 loser (FL/AR)
11 4:30    Gm 5 winner  (AM/AL) vs Gm 6 winner (VU/MO)
12 8:00    Gm 7 winner (LSU/AU) vs Gm 8 winner (FL/AR)

FRI:  Fourth Round  (Double Elimination)
13 3:00    Gm 9 winner vs Gm 11 loser    
14 6:30    Gm 10 winner vs Gm 12 loser       

SAT: Semifinals  (Single Elimination)
15 12:00   Gm 13 winner vs Gm 11 winner
16 3:30     Gm 14 winner vs Gm 12 winner       

SUN:  CG
17 3:30    Gm 15 winner vs Gm 16 winner [/list]

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[razCzar]

SECT Current Seeding
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2015/05/sec_baseball_tournament_2015_w_1.html

1    VU     17-7
2    LSU   16-7
3    AM    16-7
4    FL     15-9
5    AR    14-10
6    MO   14-10
7    AU    12-12
8    KY    11-12
9    OM   11-13
10   SC   10-14
11   AL     8-16
12   MSU  8-16

out  GA    7-16
out  TN    7-17

[razCzar]

SECT Current Seeding
After Sunday, 5/10 Games

1   LSU  19-7    0.731
2   VU   18-9    0.667
3   AM   17-9    0.654
4   FL   17-10    0.63
5   AR   15-11   0.577
6   MO 14-13    0.519   (TB over OM)      
7   OM 14-13    0.519
8   KY   12-14   0.462
9   AU   12-15   0.444   (TB over SC)
10  SC  12-15   0.444
11  AL   11-16   0.407
12  GA    9-17   0.346

out TN   8-18   0.308
out MSU 8-19   0.296

[Birminghog]

2015 SEC Baseball Tournament (5/19-24)
http://www.secsports.com/bracket/baseball

Even with six games left in league play, a few things already seem certain.

Seeding
-- Georgia and Tennessee should miss out yet again.
-- Either MSU or Alabama (both 8-16) should be the 12-seed.
-- Arkansas and Florida should be the 4- and 5-seeds.
-- A 4-seed AR likely plays FL-MSU/AL winner on Wed.
-- A 5-seed AR likely plays MSU/AL on Tu; win & play FL on Wed.
-- The 4- and 5-seeds play the last game of the day in 1st 2 rounds-8pmCT.

Schedule
-- Confirmed SEC TV start times from WatchESPN / secsports.com

TU:  First Round  (Single Elimination)
1  9:30CT   6vs11
2  1:00CT   7vs10
3  4:30CT   8vs9
4  8:00CT   5vs12    :razorback:?

WED: Second Round  (Double Elimination)
5  9:30CT   3vs6/11
6  1:00CT   2vs7/10
7  4:30CT   1vs8/9
8  8:00CT   4vs5/12  :razorback:?

TH: Third Round  (Double Elimination)
9  9:30CT       Gm 5 loser vs Gm 6 loser
10 1:00CT       Gm 7 loser vs Gm 8 loser
11 4:30CT       Gm 5 winner vs Gm 6 winner
12 8:00CT       Gm 7 winner vs Gm 8 winner

FRI:  Fourth Round  (Double Elimination)
13 3:00CT       Gm 9 winner vs Gm 11 loser    
14 6:30CT       Gm 10 winner vs Gm 12 loser       

SAT: Semifinals  (Single Elimination)
15 12:00CT     Gm 13 winner vs Gm 11 winner
16 3:30CT       Gm 14 winner vs Gm 12 winner       

SUN:  CG
17 3:30CT       Gm 15 winner vs Gm 16 winner

If we are either a 4 or a 5, looks like I might be able to go to all of the games, which is a 1st.  We usually wind up playing while I'm at work.

Digging on this idea in a big way.

[TikiHog]

Looks like we could get Georgia 1st round

[razCzar]

Speculating about driving over from Atlanta is one reason for figuring this out EARLY.  That, and enabling others to plan ahead. 

One possible exception to these late games is if Hogs lose Wednesday night, we play Thurs afternoon instead Thurs night. 

[razCzar]

Looks like we could get Georgia 1st round

Distinct possibility.  Hope not though, preferring not to play UGA four games in a row.

[TikiHog]

I think the only way it doesn't happen is if we sweep them and Tennessee sweeps MSU then we'll get Tennessee

[SPAL]

How far do we wanna go in the SECT? You go from an SEC foe straight into the tournament and assuming you go all the way, you have 4 days to recover.

Do we blow through our arms and try to win or just take a conservative approach and save our pitching for a run to Omaha?

[flippinhogmana]

Well...as I am sure you know SPAL, it seems almost as if we dont try and win many games in the SECT for the reason of it putting us in a pitching hole...and that was when we had more arms....at least some have hypothesized that was DVH's strategy...

[howie76]

Hopefully our hitting will carry us further this year.

[bulldog04]

How far do we wanna go in the SECT? You go from an SEC foe straight into the tournament and assuming you go all the way, you have 4 days to recover.

Do we blow through our arms and try to win or just take a conservative approach and save our pitching for a run to Omaha?

I would like to play at least 3 games just to get our pitchers work and not have too big a layoff.

[razCzar]

I can understand preserving the arms for the regional, but one of these years we need to actually win this thing.  Tired of being one of the three that never has.   

[Kevin]

I don't really want to see tk start Thursday at Georgia then turn around and start Tuesday in Hoover.
One reason I am not a big supporter of a tournament with this many teams

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

I would love playing 6 games in a row and all of them being the late game and that is a possibility for Arkansas, but that's just for myself. I wouldn't wish that for my Hogs unless it is necessary to improve our RPI.

Like Howie and bulldog said, play enough games to get the pitchers work (and maybe some of the 2nd tier guys) , but see how far the hitting takes us without stretching any pitcher to far. And, like C says, one of these years we need to win this thing. I'll add that if we mess up at Georgia this week and our RPI gets much worse, we are going to have to try to play several games in the SECT to bring the RPI back up and we won't do it with the bottom part of the SEC teams, we'll have to play the top 4 and/or Auburn and/or Ole Miss.

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

2015 SEC Baseball Tournament (5/19-24)
http://www.secsports.com/bracket/baseball

Even with six games left in league play, a few things already seem certain.

Seeding
-- Georgia and Tennessee should miss out yet again.
-- Either MSU or Alabama (both 8-16) should be the 12-seed.
-- Arkansas and Florida should be the 4- and 5-seeds.
-- A 4-seed AR likely plays FL-MSU/AL winner on Wed.
-- A 5-seed AR likely plays MSU/AL on Tu; win & play FL on Wed.
-- The 4- and 5-seeds play the last game of the day in 1st 2 rounds-8pmCT.

The worst we can finish in the SEC is 4th in the West and 7th overall at 15-14.

The best we can finish is #2 in the West and #2 overall (by our self) at 18-11.

This weekends schedule is setup so every team ahead of us is playing someone below us.

The only game that will hurt our RPI if the underdog wins is LSU vs USCe.

Winning 2 games against Georgia guarantees us 3rd in the west and 5th overall.

IF WE SWEEP Georgia:
It takes a Bama sweep to pass Vandy.
A&M has to go 1-2 against Ole Miss for us to finish ahead of A&M.
Florida has to go 1-2 against Auburn for us to finish ahead of Florida.

IF WE GO 2-1 against Georgia:
Nobody can pass us or catch us, but we could pass A&M and Florida and finish 3rd overall.

IF WE GO 1-2: win at least 1:
We are guaranteed at least 4th in the West and 7th overall, but could finish 5th overall.

[BroyledNutts]

Nice scenario breakdown ARK...easy to follow...+1

[flippinhogmana]

I don't really want to see tk start Thursday at Georgia then turn around and start Tuesday in Hoover.
One reason I am not a big supporter of a tournament with this many teams

If we start tk thursday, then we should start teague or lowery tuesday.

[theFlyingHog]

I better be home by tournament time! No TV on the farm in Iowa

[Kevin]

I think that is why Teague is starting today.  Getting him ready for the start on Tuesday

[Razorback7281]

Hopefully the Hogs won't be playing next Tuesday.

[razCzar]

Phil just cleared up a point of some confusion:  Hogs beat the Dogs twice, and GA can not make SECT;  which seems to solve the issue of having to play them 4 in a row.

[TikiHog]

Phil isn't correct on this one...If Georgia goes 1-2 and Tennessee goes 2-1 they will tie at 10-19...Georgia swept Tennessee and will advance

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

Scenario's for the last spots in the SECT:

[razCzar]

+1, A_R_K

[razCzar]

SECT Current Seeding
After Thursday, 5/14 Games

      1   LSU  19-8    0.704   ---
      2   VU   19-9    0.679   0.5
      3   AM   18-9    0.667   1
      4   FL   17-11   0.607   2.5
      5   AR   15-12   0.556   4
      6   MO  14-14   0.50    5.5    (TB over OM)
      7   OM  14-14   0.50    5.5
      8   KY   13-14   0.481   6
      9   AU   13-15   0.464   6.5   (TB over SC)
      10  SC  13-15   0.464   6.5
      11  AL   11-17   0.393   8.5
      12  GA   10-17   0.370   9

      out TN   9-18   0.333   10
      out MSU 8-20   0.286   11.5

What we do know is MSU is eliminated from SECT, leaving 12-seed to either GA or TN - or even AL...

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

SECT Current Seeding
After Thursday, 5/14 Games

      1   LSU  19-8    0.704   ---
      2   VU   19-9    0.679   0.5
      3   AM   18-9    0.667   1
      4   FL   17-11   0.607   2.5
      5   AR   15-12   0.556   4
      6   MO  14-14   0.50    5.5    (TB over OM)
      7   OM  14-14   0.50    5.5
      8   KY   13-14   0.481   6
      9   AU   13-15   0.464   6.5   (TB over SC)
      10  SC  13-15   0.464   6.5
      11  AL   11-17   0.393   8.5
      12  GA   10-17   0.370   9

      out TN   9-18   0.333   10
      out MSU 8-20   0.286   11.5

What we do know is MSU is eliminated from SECT, leaving 12-seed to either GA or TN - or even AL...

Thanks C,
Looks like if we win 1 this weekend ,we will hang onto 5th overall and if we win 2 and Florida loses 2 we pass them and finish 4th. If we get swept, we could end up 7th. That's pretty much all that remains to be worked out, right?

[razCzar]

Thanks C,
Looks like if we win 1 this weekend ,we will hang onto 5th overall and if we win 2 and Florida loses 2 we pass them and finish 4th. If we get swept, we could end up 7th. That's pretty much all that remains to be worked out, right?

Yeah, it is that third option which worries me.

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

Yeah, it is that third option which worries me.

I don't think we get swept. Tomorrow will be a good game. We'll have (probably our best pitcher) McKinney on the mound and Jackson is fresh and we'll use Tacco if need be. Tomorrow is a big game. Lawlor is a good pitcher, but I don't think he will be as good as the guy we faced tonight.

A win on Friday locks up 5th place overall and a Florida loss keeps us in the hunt for 4th place overall. 2 Florida losses and 2 Hog wins puts us in 4th overall.

We cannot catch Vandy, LSU and A&M.

Ole Miss and Missouri are the only 2 teams that can catch us because we own the tie breaker over Kentucky.   

[jry04]

Thanks C,
Looks like if we win 1 this weekend ,we will hang onto 5th overall and if we win 2 and Florida loses 2 we pass them and finish 4th. If we get swept, we could end up 7th. That's pretty much all that remains to be worked out, right?

UF is 1.5 up on us. If we win 2 and UF loses 2 that still puts them at .5 ahead of us, because we would only be gaining a game on them. We have to win 2 and UF has to be swept for us to catch them.

[dbhog]

UF is 1.5 up on us. If we win 2 and UF loses 2 that still puts them at .5 ahead of us, because we would only be gaining a game on them. We have to win 2 and UF has to be swept for us to catch them.

Florida only has 2 games left; same as us.  So if we win our 2 games and FL loses the remaining 2 games, we would finish fourth.

[jry04]

Florida only has 2 games left; same as us.  So if we win our 2 games and FL loses the remaining 2 games, we would finish fourth.

Yes, meaning they got swept by Auburn. I thought he was referring to UF losing 2 in their series, not their 2 remaining. My mistake. UF lost to Auburn last night. I may be completely wrong, but I do not see there being any way they get swept by Auburn when they are battling for a national seed.

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

Yes, meaning they got swept by Auburn. I thought he was referring to UF losing 2 in their series, not their 2 remaining. My mistake. UF lost to Auburn last night. I may be completely wrong, but I do not see there being any way they get swept by Auburn when they are battling for a national seed.

Yeah, what I was talking about is from today forward meaning we win 2 and Florida loses 2, we finish ahead of them. 1 win today or tomorrow gives us 5th place no matter what anybody else does. I know you already knew that. 

[razCzar]

It was just mentioned in the pre-game show that, not surprisingly, last night's winner Sosebee is expected to be the Tuesday night starter.  That would be a tough draw for a single elimination game.

[Lake City Hog]

Well, Florida just won do we are the 5th seed. I guess that it is all but set, just waiting to see who else stays home, Tenner--Bama or the Dogs???

[SPAL]

Our win over UGA moves bama to Hoover.

[razCzar]

SECT Current Seeding
After Friday, 5/15 Games

         1   LSU  20-8    0.714   ---
         2   VU   20-9    0.690   0.5
         3   AM   18-9    0.667  1.5   (rainout)
         4   FL   18-11   0.621   2.5
         5   AR   16-12   0.571   4
         6   MO  15-14   0.517   5.5      
         7   OM  14-14   0.50     6    (rainout)
         8   KY   13-15   0.464   7
         9   AU   13-16   0.448   7.5  (TB over SC)
         10  SC  13-16   0.448   7.5
         11  AL   11-18   0.379   9.5
         12  GA   10-18   0.357   10  (TB over TN)

         out TN   10-18   0.357   10
         out MSU 8-21    0.276   12.5

-- Tiki correctly stated "we're locked in 5th" seed. 
-- Our Tuesday 12-seed opponent remains up for grabs.

[knoxvillehog]

It was just mentioned in the pre-game show that, not surprisingly, last night's winner Sosebee is expected to be the Tuesday night starter.  That would be a tough draw for a single elimination game.

Well if UT can beat State tomorrow and we win then GA will be at home so that won't matter

[razCzar]

True. 

Add to that a Bama loss;  and we end up playing them Tuesday night... to likely a packed house.  Vols would take their place as the 11-seed.

If you think about it, not so far-fetched.

[SPAL]

I would rather play bama with a packed house than see  Sosebee again.

[ricepig]

I would rather play bama with a packed house than see  Sosebee again.

Bama would pack it, very doubtful.

[razCzar]

SECT Current Seeding / FINAL
After Saturday, 5/16 Games


        Moved

[jry04]

I would rather play bama with a packed house than see  Sosebee again.

I get what you are saying, but there is no chance Bama would pack it.

[reddogjcss]

Got to win the first one.

[PigDaddyKane]

Oh man, the bottom of the 9th inning of the MSU -Tenn game is wild.  MSU walks two batters, next guy sac bunts.  But MSU 1st baseman doesn't actually tag him.  Home plate ump calls him out, reverses.  Tenn goes on to win.

[Kevin]

Probably going to get bama in a packed house

[TikiHog]

Vandy-Bama at 3:30 SEC Network to decide who we play

[jry04]

Probably going to get bama in a packed house

It may be packed, but it won't be because Bama fans showed up.

[bulldog04]

Probably going to get bama in a packed house

It won't be the last time this year we beat Bama with a packed house in the state of Alabama

[ricepig]

It may be packed, but it won't be because Bama fans showed up.

It won't be packed because Miss St isn't playing, they usually have as many fans as anyone there.