Bielema's Draftees at Wisconsin and their recruiting rankings

[JackJohnson]

Bielema has now had 32 players drafted that he coached while he was HC at Wisconsin (counting the 2 Wisky guys this year)

**All rankings based on scout.com**

1 5*
3 4*
13 3*
9 2* (1st rounder and Def POY Watt who transferred in as a walk on TE, Russell Wilson and 1st RD All Pro Frederick)
6 NO stars (including 3rd overall pick and All Pro Joe Thomas and 4 former Walkons)

Actual NFL Round Drafted:

1st Rd- 6
2nd Rd- 4
3rd Rd- 8
4th Rd- 5
5th Rd- 3
6th Rd- 4
7th Rd- 2

Average scout star rankings of his 32 NFL draft picks- 2.31

Average round drafted for his 32 NFL draft picks- 3.47

Average pick for his 32 NFL draft picks- 103

The past 5 drafts he has had 8 OL picked- 3 1st rounders, 2 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 5th and a 7th.  Those guys were: 5 3*'s, 2 2*'s and NO Star Walk on TE.

2015 1 15 Melvin Gordon Chargers RB Wisconsin 3* #38 RB http://wisconsin.scout.com/player/4639494n-melvin-gordon
2015 2 57 Rob Havenstein Rams OT Wisconsin 3* #42 OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/player/4016300n-rob-havenstein

2014 3 68 Dezmen Southward Falcons FS Wisconsin 2* unranked S http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2014&nid=4108099
2014 3 77 Chris Borland 49ers MLB Wisconsin 2* #55 MLB http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2014&nid=3812708
2014 4 130 James White Patriots RB Wisconsin 3* #70 RB http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2014&nid=4108113
2014 5 176 Jared Abbrederis Packers WR Wisconsin no star unranked walk on WR http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/1355306.html#/2/1355306.html
2014 7 224 Beau Allen Eagles DT Wisconsin 4* #26 DT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3566750#/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3566750

2013 1 31 Travis Frederick Cowboys C Wisconsin 2* #104 OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3292050
2013 2 58 Montee Ball Broncos RB Wisconsin 3* #47 RB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3114255
2013 5 168 Ricky Wagner Ravens OT Wisconsin NO star former walk on TE http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2013&nid=3748887

2012 1 27  Kevin Zeitler Bengals OG Wisconsin 3* #22 OG http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3126005
2012 2 55  Peter Konz Falcons C Wisconsin 3* #38 OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3044890
2012 3 75  Russell Wilson Seahawks QB Wisconsin 2* #67 QB http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2012&nid=2508716
2012 4 122 Nick Toon Saints  WR Wisconsin 3* #89 WR http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=2415550
2012 5 157 Bradie Ewing Falcons  FB Wisconsin  no star unranked walk on RB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3400974
2012 6 207 Brad Nortman Panthers  P Wisconsin 2* #4 P http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3202298

2011 1 11  J.J. Watt Texans DE Wisconsin 2* unranked DE http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2011&nid=2592221
2011 1 29  Gabe Carimi Bears OT Wisconsin 3* unranked OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1776866
2011 2 47  Lance Hendricks Rams TE Wisconsin 4* #12 WR http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1776750
2011 3 75  John Moffitt Seahawks OG Wisconsin 2* unranked OG http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1886727
2011 7 252 Bill Nagy Cowboys OG Wisconsin 3* #55 OG http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=1771944

2010 4 118 Garrett Graham Texans TE Wisconsin 2* #53 TE http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1201226
2010 4 130 O'Brien Schofield Cardinals LB Wisconsin 3* #55 LB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1201775

2009 3 71  Matt Shaughnessy Raiders DE Wisconsin 2* unranked DE http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1199981
2009 3 76  Deandre Levy Lions LB Wisconsin 3* #78 LB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1335989
2009 3 79  Kraig Urbik Steelers OG Wisconsin 4* #24 OL http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=661266
2009 3 100 Travis Beckum Giants TE Wisconsin 5* #1 DE http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=708871

2008 4 131 Jack Ikegwuonu Eagles CB Wisconsin NO star unranked CB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=968625
2008 6 178 Taylor Mehlhall Saints K Wisconsin 3 star unranked K http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=992940
2008 6 181 Nick Hayden Panthers DT Wisconsin 3* #43 DT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=680190
2008 6 191 Paul Hubbard Browns WR Wisconsin former walk on http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&nid=3262537&yr=2008

2007 1 3   Joe Thomas Browns OT Wisconsin NO star unranked OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=269855 

Here is his recruiting class comparisons from Wisconsin to Ark

All Rankings according to Scout

3 Classes at Ark
2015- #21 overall 0 5*, 7 4*, 17 3* 3.29 * average
2014- #33 overall 0 5*, 5 4*, 15 3* 3.04 * average
2013- #32 overall 1 5*, 3 4*, 13 3* 2.96 * average
Total- 1 5*, 15 4*, 45 3*

7 Classes at Wisconsin
2012- #63 overall 0 5*, 5 4*,  4 3* 3.17 * average
2011- #38 overall 0 5*, 1 4*, 17 3* 2.90 * average
2010- #33 overall 0 5*, 1 4*, 17 3* 2.73 * average
2009- #51 overall 0 5*, 2 4*, 11 3* 2.71 * average
2008- #26 overall 0 5*, 1 4*, 18 3* 2.83 * average
2007- #41 overall 1 5*, 2 4*,  9 3* 2.89 * average
2006- #37 overall 0 5*, 2 4*,  8 3* 2.52 * average
Total- 1 5*, 14 4*,  84 3*

Average at UW compared to Ark
UA- #28.7 overall .33 5*, 5 4*, 15 3* 3.10 * average
UW- #41.3 overall .14 5*, 2 4*, 12 3* 2.82 * average

The development he has done is phenomenal.  Imagine what he is going to be able to do now that he has a staff that can coach them up even better than what he had at Wisconsin AND that can bring in more athletically gifted football players as we saw in this past recruiting class

[bphi11ips]

Great research.  Thanks for organizing and posting.  Bret Bielema is obviously one heck of a football coach.

Maybe he saw in Arkansas the same thing he saw in JJ Watt.

[HogMantheIntruder]

Great research.  Thanks for organizing and posting.  Bret Bielema is obviously one heck of a football coach.

Maybe he saw in Arkansas the same thing he saw in JJ Watt.

I'd be ok with Arkansas being the "JJ Watt of CFB teams"...

[younghog]

2015 #21 Overall was his Best Recruiting Class ever at either school.. I'll take that..

GO HOGS

[JackJohnson]

To add to this discussion

Bielema has now had 9 players drafted as HC at Arkansas

**All rankings are from scout.com**

1 4*
5 3*
3 2*

Average scout star rankings of his 9 NFL draft picks- 2.78

Average round drafted for his 32 NFL draft picks- 5.44

Average pick for his 32 NFL draft picks- 167.56

2015 4 101 Trey Flowers Patriots DE Arkansas 2* UR DE http://arkansas.scout.com/player/5397611n-trey-flowers
2015 5 141 Martrell Spaight Redskins LB Arkansas 3* JC OLB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/6510742n-martrell-spaight
2015 6 182 Tevin Mitchell Redskins CB Arkansas 4* #26 CB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/4952075n-tevin-mitchel
2015 6 192 Darius Philon Chargers DT Arkansas 3* #37 DE http://arkansas.scout.com/player/4793446n-darius-philon
2015 6 202 A.J. Derby Patriots TE Arkansas 3* #38 QB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/3973688n-a-j-derby

2014 3 76 Travis Swanson Lions C Arkansas 3* #33 OG http://arkansas.scout.com/player/3651600n-travis-swanson
2014 5 159 Chris Smith Jaguars DE Arkansas 3* #104 OLB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/3743557n-chris-smith
2014 7 227 Kiero Small Seahawks RB Arkansas 2* JC MLB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/5390888n-kiero-small
2014 7 228 Zach Hocker Redskins PK Arkansas 2* #31 K http://arkansas.scout.com/player/4204392n-zach-hocker

In a similar manner as to what he did at Wisconsin where as the years wore on both the amount of players drafted as well as the average draft pick both improved.  That trend is continuing here as last year we had 4 players drafted at an average pick of 172.5.  This year we had 5 players picked at an average of 163.6. 

Now that he is getting better recruits (on paper anyways) I expect us to start having not only more players drafted, but also drafted much earlier then what we have seen these past 2 years.  The trajectory of the Ark football program is definitely pointing upwards...

[HogMantheIntruder]

To add to this discussion

Bielema has now had 9 players drafted as HC at Arkansas

**All rankings are from scout.com**

1 4*
5 3*
3 2*

Average scout star rankings of his 9 NFL draft picks- 2.78

Average round drafted for his 32 NFL draft picks- 5.44

Average pick for his 32 NFL draft picks- 167.56

2015 4 101 Trey Flowers Patriots DE Arkansas 2* UR DE http://arkansas.scout.com/player/5397611n-trey-flowers
2015 5 141 Martrell Spaight Redskins LB Arkansas 3* JC OLB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/6510742n-martrell-spaight
2015 6 182 Tevin Mitchell Redskins CB Arkansas 4* #26 CB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/4952075n-tevin-mitchel
2015 6 192 Darius Philon Chargers DT Arkansas 3* #37 DE http://arkansas.scout.com/player/4793446n-darius-philon
2015 6 202 A.J. Derby Patriots TE Arkansas 3* #38 QB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/3973688n-a-j-derby

2014 3 76 Travis Swanson Lions C Arkansas 3* #33 OG http://arkansas.scout.com/player/3651600n-travis-swanson
2014 5 159 Chris Smith Jaguars DE Arkansas 3* #104 OLB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/3743557n-chris-smith
2014 7 227 Kiero Small Seahawks RB Arkansas 2* JC MLB http://arkansas.scout.com/player/5390888n-kiero-small
2014 7 228 Zach Hocker Redskins PK Arkansas 2* #31 K http://arkansas.scout.com/player/4204392n-zach-hocker

In a similar manner as to what he did at Wisconsin where as the years wore on both the amount of players drafted as well as the average draft pick both improved.  That trend is continuing here as last year we had 4 players drafted at an average pick of 172.5.  This year we had 5 players picked at an average of 163.6. 

Now that he is getting better recruits (on paper anyways) I expect us to start having not only more players drafted, but also drafted much earlier then what we have seen these past 2 years.  The trajectory of the Ark football program is definitely pointing upwards...

Fantastic topic and follow up post!  I couldn't agree more about the trajectory of the program, and I believe it goes back to the way CBB seems to be as interested in developing men of character, as well as great football players.  How many guys can we all think of from back in school that we KNOW could have played, and maybe even done something very special, in college, but they just didn't have the right attitude/discipline/work ethic, etc. and they did nothing?  For that matter, how many of us have fallen short, whether in football or any other area for the same reasons?  Having a mentor like CBB can literally change a young man's life.  I wonder how many of these players would have been drafted had they played for someone else?  CBB seems to have a knack for getting 100% out of his players; he demands it.  The tricky part is making them WANT TO do the right thing, and that's what separates the current Head Hog from a lot of other coaches. 

We've seen what he can do with a sprinkle of elite talent surrounded by guys who are willing to run through a wall for him.  Now, with the uptick in recruiting (which I don't see falling off), we will get to see what he is able to do with the best raw talent, across the board, that he has ever had the opportunity to coach.  It's a good time to be a Razorback.  Woo Pig! 

[Hoggish1]

Great job Jack.  BB is getting it done!

[bphi11ips]

I'd be ok with Arkansas being the "JJ Watt of CFB teams"...

The way Bielema got here is remarkably similar to the way Frank Broyles got here.  Broyles coveted the Arkansas job and let John Barnhill know it.  Bielema sent Jeff Long the famous congratulatory letter after Long fired Petrino. 

Broyles and Bielema both saw Arkansas as having great upside.  Broyles hired assistants with aspirations to be a head coach.  He won one NC and was a few plays from winning 2 or 3 more.  It took Broyles only one year to go 9-2 and finish 9th in the country.  After that he was on a roll that would be interrupted only by a mediocre year every five years or so until he retired after the 1976 season.  The run started with 4 straight wins at the end of 1958 featuring great defense.  In 1959 the Hogs finished 9-2, culminating in a win over Broyles' alma mater, Georgia Tech, and an AP ranking of 9. 

The parallels between Broyles and Bielema continue to take shape.  I'll take 11-2, a major bowl win, and a 9 ranking in 2015.     

[Vantage 8 dude]

Bielema has now had 32 players drafted that he coached while he was HC at Wisconsin (counting the 2 Wisky guys this year)

**All rankings based on scout.com**

1 5*
3 4*
13 3*
9 2* (1st rounder and Def POY Watt who transferred in as a walk on TE, Russell Wilson and 1st RD All Pro Frederick)
6 NO stars (including 3rd overall pick and All Pro Joe Thomas and 4 former Walkons)

Actual NFL Round Drafted:

1st Rd- 6
2nd Rd- 4
3rd Rd- 8
4th Rd- 5
5th Rd- 3
6th Rd- 4
7th Rd- 2

Average scout star rankings of his 32 NFL draft picks- 2.31

Average round drafted for his 32 NFL draft picks- 3.47

Average pick for his 32 NFL draft picks- 103

The past 5 drafts he has had 8 OL picked- 3 1st rounders, 3 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 5th and a 7th.  Those guys were: 5 3*'s, 2 2*'s and NO Star Walk on TE.

2015 1 15 Melvin Gordon Chargers RB Wisconsin 3* #38 RB http://wisconsin.scout.com/player/4639494n-melvin-gordon
2015 2 57 Rob Havenstein Rams OT Wisconsin 3* #42 OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/player/4016300n-rob-havenstein

2014 3 68 Dezmen Southward Falcons FS Wisconsin 2* unranked S http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2014&nid=4108099
2014 3 77 Chris Borland 49ers MLB Wisconsin 2* #55 MLB http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2014&nid=3812708
2014 4 130 James White Patriots RB Wisconsin 3* #70 RB http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2014&nid=4108113
2014 5 176 Jared Abbrederis Packers WR Wisconsin no star unranked walk on WR http://wisconsin.scout.com/2/1355306.html#/2/1355306.html
2014 7 224 Beau Allen Eagles DT Wisconsin 4* #26 DT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3566750#/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3566750

2013 1 31 Travis Frederick Cowboys C Wisconsin 2* #104 OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3292050
2013 2 58 Montee Ball Broncos RB Wisconsin 3* #47 RB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3114255
2013 5 168 Ricky Wagner Ravens OT Wisconsin NO star former walk on TE http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2013&nid=3748887

2012 1 27  Kevin Zeitler Bengals OG Wisconsin 3* #22 OG http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3126005
2012 2 55  Peter Konz Falcons C Wisconsin 3* #38 OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3044890
2012 3 75  Russell Wilson Seahawks QB Wisconsin 2* #67 QB http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2012&nid=2508716
2012 4 122 Nick Toon Saints  WR Wisconsin 3* #89 WR http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=2415550
2012 5 157 Bradie Ewing Falcons  FB Wisconsin  no star unranked walk on RB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3400974
2012 6 207 Brad Nortman Panthers  P Wisconsin 2* #4 P http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=3202298

2011 1 11  J.J. Watt Texans DE Wisconsin 2* unranked DE http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&yr=2011&nid=2592221
2011 1 29  Gabe Carimi Bears OT Wisconsin 3* unranked OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1776866
2011 2 47  Lance Hendricks Rams TE Wisconsin 4* #12 WR http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1776750
2011 3 75  John Moffitt Seahawks OG Wisconsin 2* unranked OG http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1886727
2011 7 252 Bill Nagy Cowboys OG Wisconsin 3* #55 OG http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=1771944

2010 4 118 Garrett Graham Texans TE Wisconsin 2* #53 TE http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1201226
2010 4 130 O'Brien Schofield Cardinals LB Wisconsin 3* #55 LB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1201775

2009 3 71  Matt Shaughnessy Raiders DE Wisconsin 2* unranked DE http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1199981
2009 3 76  Deandre Levy Lions LB Wisconsin 3* #78 LB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=1335989
2009 3 79  Kraig Urbik Steelers OG Wisconsin 4* #24 OL http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=661266
2009 3 100 Travis Beckum Giants TE Wisconsin 5* #1 DE http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=708871

2008 4 131 Jack Ikegwuonu Eagles CB Wisconsin NO star unranked CB http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=968625
2008 6 178 Taylor Mehlhall Saints K Wisconsin 3 star unranked K http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=992940
2008 6 181 Nick Hayden Panthers DT Wisconsin 3* #43 DT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=680190
2008 6 191 Paul Hubbard Browns WR Wisconsin former walk on http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=8&c=1&nid=3262537&yr=2008

2007 1 3   Joe Thomas Browns OT Wisconsin NO star unranked OT http://wisconsin.scout.com/a.z?s=193&p=8&c=1&nid=269855 

Here is his recruiting class comparisons from Wisconsin to Ark

All Rankings according to Scout

3 Classes at Ark
2015- #21 overall 0 5*, 7 4*, 17 3* 3.29 * average
2014- #33 overall 0 5*, 5 4*, 15 3* 3.04 * average
2013- #32 overall 1 5*, 3 4*, 13 3* 2.96 * average
Total- 1 5*, 15 4*, 45 3*

7 Classes at Wisconsin
2012- #63 overall 0 5*, 5 4*,  4 3* 3.17 * average
2011- #38 overall 0 5*, 1 4*, 17 3* 2.90 * average
2010- #33 overall 0 5*, 1 4*, 17 3* 2.73 * average
2009- #51 overall 0 5*, 2 4*, 11 3* 2.71 * average
2008- #26 overall 0 5*, 1 4*, 18 3* 2.83 * average
2007- #41 overall 1 5*, 2 4*,  9 3* 2.89 * average
2006- #37 overall 0 5*, 2 4*,  8 3* 2.52 * average
Total- 1 5*, 14 4*,  84 3*

Average at UW compared to Ark
UA- #28.7 overall .33 5*, 5 4*, 15 3* 3.10 * average
UW- #41.3 overall .14 5*, 2 4*, 12 3* 2.82 * average

The development he has done is phenomenal.  Imagine what he is going to be able to do now that he has a staff that can coach them up even better than what he had at Wisconsin AND that can bring in more athletically gifted football players as we saw in this past recruiting class

A huge "shout out" for all your effort and research! Yep, while we'll have doubters, it's very obvious that despite where most of these kids are ranked going into his program the vast majority leave both better players AND better men. The future is definitely bright.

[HogMantheIntruder]

The way Bielema got here is remarkably similar to the way Frank Broyles got here.  Broyles coveted the Arkansas job and let John Barnhill know it.  Bielema sent Jeff Long the famous congratulatory letter after Long fired Petrino. 

Broyles and Bielema both saw Arkansas as having great upside.  Broyles hired assistants with aspirations to be a head coach.  He won one NC and was a few plays from winning 2 or 3 more.  It took Broyles only one year to go 9-2 and finish 9th in the country.  After that he was on a roll that would be interrupted only by a mediocre year every five years or so until he retired after the 1976 season.  The run started with 4 straight wins at the end of 1958 featuring great defense.  In 1959 the Hogs finished 9-2, culminating in a win over Broyles' alma mater, Georgia Tech, and an AP ranking of 9. 

The parallels between Broyles and Bielema continue to take shape.  I'll take 11-2, a major bowl win, and a 9 ranking in 2015.   

Please keep us posted on the parallels, especially for those of us who weren't around for the Broyles years.  I love the comparison, and I hope it plays out in a very similar fashion! 

[Cure]

Bielema, simply put, has done more with less than anyone at a major.

[Hogsolo]

How often did he take 25 at Wisconsin?   By not losing players he won't be able to take 25 every year like Bama does.   Another school that always has low rankings but usually has a class of about 18 to 20 is Boise State. 

If you have a viable red shirt program, pick good kids that will stay with the program, and develop them physically and mentally, you'll never be high in the rankings because you aren't recruiting big classes. 

I wasn't surprised when he said the 2016 class would be much smaller because of the program he's establishing.   

[bigdaddyhawg]

Bielema has now had 32 players drafted that he coached while he was HC at Wisconsin (counting the 2 Wisky guys this year)

Wow.  That is SO freaking impressive!

There is so much in there that is a credit to Bret and his staffs, but the 6 no stars, walk ons and such, that were drafted -- that is incredible!

Thank you Jack for sharing that with us!

[smb]

I love the way CBB let's his coaching do the talking! The way it should be.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Wow.  That is SO freaking impressive!

There is so much in there that is a credit to Bret and his staffs, but the 6 no stars, walk ons and such, that were drafted -- that is incredible!

Thank you Jack for sharing that with us!

I totally agree the six no stars is extremely impressive. Speaks huge volumes about a walk on approach that really works over time. Some question whether this approach and success can be duplicated on the Hill. I ask why not?

[Rivervalley Hog]

Great Stuff JackJohnson.

[bigdaddyhawg]

I totally agree the six no stars is extremely impressive. Speaks huge volumes about a walk on approach that really works over time. Some question whether this approach and success can be duplicated on the Hill. I ask why not?

I think it's already started working.  Johnny Gibson was our second team LT this spring.  That's no small feat in itself.

Also I believe a true frosh walk on, Patrick Reed, finished the spring as a second team corner.

[JackJohnson]

I think it's already started working.  Johnny Gibson was our second team LT this spring.  That's no small feat in itself.

Also I believe a true frosh walk on, Patrick Reed, finished the spring as a second team corner.

Not sure who Patrick Reed is but several current and former walk ons (who have earned scholarships) factor heavily into next season:

RS Fr Josh Harris is 2nd team MLB. 

RS Fr Tyler Colquitt (now on scholarship) is 2nd team FB but really is battling Walk On RS So Chris Jones as starting FB as Kody Walker is most likely going to be spending more/most of his time as 3rd team RB.

RS Sr Alex Voelzke (now on scholarship) at TE is battling Sprinkle for #2

RS So Kevin Richardson is going to factor in at FS/CB again after playing quite a bit last year

DE's RS Sr Mitchell Loewen (now on scholarship) and RS So Karl Roesler figure to factor in at DE yet again this upcoming season after playing quite a bit last year

I expect Jones, Richardson and Roesler to go on scholarship by next fall as they will now only count on the 85 as they have been here for 2 years.

Gibson and Harris will likely go on scholarship this time next year (entering RS So season) for the same reason- only counting on 85 rather then as an initial 25 counter

[TNhawgfan]

+1 for now, and another +1 next time I log on to hogville
Fantastic research and insight - and exactly why I don't get in a tissy we're not bringing in the recruits like Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas A + M, etc.

[bigdaddyhawg]

Not sure who Patrick Reed is but several current and former walk ons (who have earned scholarships) factor heavily into next season:

RS Fr Josh Harris is 2nd team MLB. 

RS Fr Tyler Colquitt (now on scholarship) is 2nd team FB but really is battling Walk On RS So Chris Jones as starting FB as Kody Walker is most likely going to be spending more/most of his time as 3rd team RB.

RS Sr Alex Voelzke (now on scholarship) at TE is battling Sprinkle for #2

RS So Kevin Richardson is going to factor in at FS/CB again after playing quite a bit last year

DE's RS Sr Mitchell Loewen (now on scholarship) and RS So Karl Roesler figure to factor in at DE yet again this upcoming season after playing quite a bit last year

I expect Jones, Richardson and Roesler to go on scholarship by next fall as they will now only count on the 85 as they have been here for 2 years.

Gibson and Harris will likely go on scholarship this time next year (entering RS So season) for the same reason- only counting on 85 rather then as an initial 25 counter

Several of those kids, Harris, Loewen, Volkze to name three would be starters on most of HDN's teams IMO.