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Disc Herniation
« on: January 11, 2015, 03:05:51 pm »

If you had a disc herniation and it's making your lower left leg and foot numb.
What would be the benefit of getting an epidural if any?
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 08:03:51 am »

It might help.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 05:17:25 pm »

Well got one today let you folks now how it goes.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2015, 07:56:54 pm »

PRAYERS SENT.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 05:40:31 pm »

I did 6 of those and other procedures over 2 years to no avail, and ended up going to he laser spine institute of Tampa (also one in OK City).  Highly recommended.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2015, 01:09:17 pm »

had the same thing along with some severe leg pain.  was told the only thing that would help was shaving some of the disk off (diskectomy) to keep it from pressing the nerve.  waited till i was dragging my leg and then had.  the leg pain went away, still somewhat numb though.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2015, 03:33:06 pm »

prayers sent hope you get some relief.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 09:58:39 pm »

Starting to think the surgery route... Hmmm...
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2015, 08:47:55 pm »

no surgery but really focus hard on McKenzie Exercises!
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2015, 08:57:39 pm »

Here is my MRI....

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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2015, 09:10:24 pm »

Here is my MRI....




Late '80s, while I was in my early 20's I had herniated discs between L3, L4 and L4,L5. It was brutal, massive painful jolts down the right leg and foot, and to a lesser degree the left leg. Worst part was a near continuous sensation that someone was driving a splitting wedge just north of my crack trying to carve my arse off my body.

Air force neuro surgeon recommended surgery, I opted for light duty and rehab. I managed to hang on til I discharged from service and with time and a change of job activities things gradually improved. I'm 49 years old now and I rarely ever have any kind of lower back issues. Hope everything works out for you.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2015, 09:42:02 am »

Goodness Albert that a bad looking back hawgrunner got there.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2015, 09:54:27 am »

Goodness Albert that a bad looking back hawgrunner got there.


Yep, that's what mine looked like only with 2 herniated disks.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2015, 12:41:25 pm »

I have rods and screws, holding my L4-L5 in place, from rupturing that disc
many years ago. If I had that now I would definitely see the Laser Spine Institute.

I actually sent them an MRI from last year of my neck, and have talked to them several times.
Go to their web site and watch the videos, listen to the testimonials, and see what you think.
You can email the images to them, and fill out a form, then they will tell you if you are a candidate or not.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2015, 12:12:33 pm »

Exactly why I'm backing off my heavy powerlifting routines in favor of weighted body weight and kettlebell exercises along with moderately heavy compound lifts.

The days of throwing 500 on my back or having 375 above my chest are over.

I'm down from 230 to 205 and feel great. Lost a little muscle and quite a bit of strength but I'm cool with that now.

At 35 I want to remain fit and healthy for my kiddos and will leave the PR chasing to the young bulls.

Anyway hope your back gets to feeling better man I know that's gotta be a pain literally to deal with.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2015, 01:42:10 pm »

Good Move and we need an update hogunner!
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 11:05:46 pm »

Still got numbness in the lower left leg and foot but working with a local Physical Therapist. It's going to take some time but I think we're making head way.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2015, 08:38:55 am »

Good to hear that . Continued Prayers sent.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2015, 10:08:07 pm »

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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2015, 03:30:26 pm »

How do you fix "Peroneal Nerve Entrapment"?
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2015, 04:06:36 pm »

How do you fix "Peroneal Nerve Entrapment"?

Surgery

It's a relatively non invasive surgery (compared to spine).  A small incision is made to the lateral leg just below the knee. The nerve is identified and the soft tissue structures are released. No hardware or anything like that. It's maybe a 45 minute procedure.

Is this entrapment confirmed via conduction studies?
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2015, 06:10:26 pm »

thanks...

this is key right here
http://www.spine-health.com/wellness/exercise/pain-relief-mckenzie-treatment

That stretch in Fig. 5 is what helped me the most.....I had a couple discs that they wanted to operate on but I avoided it with some of those same exercises
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2015, 12:57:26 am »

Surgery

It's a relatively non invasive surgery (compared to spine).  A small incision is made to the lateral leg just below the knee. The nerve is identified and the soft tissue structures are released. No hardware or anything like that. It's maybe a 45 minute procedure.

Is this entrapment confirmed via conduction studies?

no just best guess on my part base on symptoms.
I did have EMG's (electromyogram)test done late last year and no nerve damage in the leg.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2015, 09:25:47 am »

Continued Prayers sent.
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Re: Disc Herniation
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2015, 08:36:24 am »

I had a herniated L4/L5 and L5/S1, with sciatica (numbness and pain down the left leg caused by pressure on your sciatic nerve) and the Air Force had me try shots (useless), Chiropractor (more than useless and caused more damage), deep tissue massage (felt good while it was happening but pain returned immediately after), traction (same as massage) LOTS of drugs (at one point I was taking 3 Percocet and 2 flexiril just to get out of bed), L5/S1 discectomy in 2010, L5/S1 fusion in 2012, and in Jun 2014 I had all of that cleaned out and then they fused my L4/L5/S1 and placed stability screws in my iliac and the UVA neurosurgery clinic.

I feel great now, better than I did in my 20's, but I will always have a dead left leg because they waited until my entire disc came out onto my spine between surgeries 1 and 2 and that cause permanent nerve damage to the back of my left leg, which also has caused atrophy as you can see by the smaller size.  This leads me to say, be careful just treating the symptom and not the cause, because that can eventually lead to much bigger issues.
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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2015, 09:18:44 am »

I had a herniated L4/L5 and L5/S1, with sciatica (numbness and pain down the left leg caused by pressure on your sciatic nerve) and the Air Force had me try shots (useless), Chiropractor (more than useless and caused more damage), deep tissue massage (felt good while it was happening but pain returned immediately after), traction (same as massage) LOTS of drugs (at one point I was taking 3 Percocet and 2 flexiril just to get out of bed), L5/S1 discectomy in 2010, L5/S1 fusion in 2012, and in Jun 2014 I had all of that cleaned out and then they fused my L4/L5/S1 and placed stability screws in my iliac and the UVA neurosurgery clinic.

I feel great now, better than I did in my 20's, but I will always have a dead left leg because they waited until my entire disc came out onto my spine between surgeries 1 and 2 and that cause permanent nerve damage to the back of my left leg, which also has caused atrophy as you can see by the smaller size.  This leads me to say, be careful just treating the symptom and not the cause, because that can eventually lead to much bigger issues.


I had some titanium put in my neck in August that looks a lot like your x-rays. Not to that extent, though.
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2015, 01:05:41 pm »

Bless your heart Pork Twain and Continued  Prayers for the rest of you.
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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2015, 02:19:45 pm »

Hope you are doing better, hawgrunner.  I've had two lower back surgeries - laminectomy with partial discectomy.  Each time it relieved the majority of the back and leg pain.  Unfortunately the last go around I developed drop foot that has not subsided.  It's a mystery to the Nueroscience community - my neurosurgeon said it may take two years for the nerve to repair or it may never get better.  Good luck, back issues are terrible. 
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« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2016, 10:01:08 am »

Prayer sent for you all and so far the Chiropractor kept me going.
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2016, 01:20:03 am »

Hope you are doing better, hawgrunner.  I've had two lower back surgeries - laminectomy with partial discectomy.  Each time it relieved the majority of the back and leg pain.  Unfortunately the last go around I developed drop foot that has not subsided.  It's a mystery to the Nueroscience community - my neurosurgeon said it may take two years for the nerve to repair or it may never get better.  Good luck, back issues are terrible. 

Thanks...
Have a new Doc I'm seeing this Friday hope he has some answers the help get me back to doing the things I love.
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« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2016, 10:23:47 pm »

Getting updated MRI done.
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2016, 01:20:47 pm »

Getting updated MRI done.

Prayers for GOOD NEW!
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« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2016, 05:23:34 pm »

I had a herniated L4/L5 and L5/S1, with sciatica (numbness and pain down the left leg caused by pressure on your sciatic nerve) and the Air Force had me try shots (useless), Chiropractor (more than useless and caused more damage), deep tissue massage (felt good while it was happening but pain returned immediately after), traction (same as massage) LOTS of drugs (at one point I was taking 3 Percocet and 2 flexiril just to get out of bed), L5/S1 discectomy in 2010, L5/S1 fusion in 2012, and in Jun 2014 I had all of that cleaned out and then they fused my L4/L5/S1 and placed stability screws in my iliac and the UVA neurosurgery clinic.

I feel great now, better than I did in my 20's, but I will always have a dead left leg because they waited until my entire disc came out onto my spine between surgeries 1 and 2 and that cause permanent nerve damage to the back of my left leg, which also has caused atrophy as you can see by the smaller size.  This leads me to say, be careful just treating the symptom and not the cause, because that can eventually lead to much bigger issues.

Did you get the bill itemized from the hospital? I think mine was $28k just for the hardware, and you have more than I do, that was 12 or so years ago. I know what you mean about the permanent damage, one of my butt cheeks is pretty dead and down the back of my leg a little ways.
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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2016, 08:29:09 am »

Those back exercises you all posted have gave me some welcomed relief. 
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2016, 06:10:00 am »

I hope you guys are doing better.  One thing I would tell anyone with back pain is to avoid pain meds as much as you can because it is just hiding the damage that is being done to your back every day that you continue to suffer.  I wish I could go back in time and have told the AF to keep their meds and to fix me instead.  I would not have the permanent nerve damage down my left leg/foot, because the meds made me feel like things were ok, when they were not.
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2016, 10:34:56 pm »

the mri result was the same as last year which means two things it's not got better but it's not worst.

Going to see
https://www.scripps.org/physicians/3699-james-bruffey
who a area of Specialties in Orthopaedic Surgery of the Spine, as so can get his input on my back and what is the next best course of action.
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« Reply #36 on: February 24, 2016, 05:52:55 pm »

Anybody have a Microdiscectomy?
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« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2016, 01:04:32 pm »

Well here I'm day 2 of recovery from Back Surgery. Ouch the low back is sore!
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« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2016, 04:20:36 pm »

Prayers for your recovery.
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« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2016, 07:58:22 am »

Anybody have a Microdiscectomy?
That was my first surgery in 2009
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« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2016, 08:29:44 am »

Prayers for your recovery
Well here I'm day 2 of recovery from Back Surgery. Ouch the low back is sore!
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« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2016, 06:53:40 pm »

Follow up with Doc today... on track but going to take some time. But was cleared to ride the bike for short easy rides!
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« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2016, 06:43:05 am »

The biggest issue is the longer you let the nerve go (pain shooting down the leg), the more likely you will suffer damage.  I had two ruptured discs and suffered the nerve pain as well.  I had surgery, more like had to have, because one piece of the spongy part of the disc had come out and lodged between my spine and nerve.  After surgery all pain was gone.  One thing you learn from PT afterwards, the stronger your core is, the less stress on your back.
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« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2016, 07:09:03 am »

I'm just finding this thread.  I work in Surgery and assist with all types of back cases.  Microdiscectomy being the only one I would ever sign up for.  Riccoar hit the nail on the head with his comment about core strength.  90% (and that's being kind) of our patients are overweight.  I would highly recommend sticking with your PT for the rest of your life.  At least some sort of planking routine and keeping your weight down.  The last thing you want is to end up back in surgery with an ALIF, XLIF, TLIF ect.  Good luck to you in your recovery.
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« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2016, 08:17:42 am »

Glad to here Hogrunner is getting better and Yep keeping your weight down is key to back and foot health.
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« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2016, 03:31:31 pm »

I'm just finding this thread.  I work in Surgery and assist with all types of back cases.  Microdiscectomy being the only one I would ever sign up for.  Riccoar hit the nail on the head with his comment about core strength.  90% (and that's being kind) of our patients are overweight.  I would highly recommend sticking with your PT for the rest of your life.  At least some sort of planking routine and keeping your weight down.  The last thing you want is to end up back in surgery with an ALIF, XLIF, TLIF ect.  Good luck to you in your recovery.

Being 5'10"  74lbs with about 20% body fat I'm somewhat ok, but still need a lot more work on my core. What I did wrong was let the disc push against the nerve for way to long so the possibly of the numbness to go away at least to the 100% level may never happen. I could live with a little bit of numbness, what really can't stand is not being able to walk, run or ride with out major cramping in the foot. So the really goal is here is to get to that point.
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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2016, 04:49:03 pm »

Being 5'10"  74lbs with about 20% body fat I'm somewhat ok, but still need a lot more work on my core. What I did wrong was let the disc push against the nerve for way to long so the possibly of the numbness to go away at least to the 100% level may never happen. I could live with a little bit of numbness, what really can't stand is not being able to walk, run or ride with out major cramping in the foot. So the really goal is here is to get to that point.

I hope that's 174.  Otherwise, you might have more problems than your back. 
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2016, 05:55:34 pm »

I did 6 of those and other procedures over 2 years to no avail, and ended up going to he laser spine institute of Tampa (also one in OK City).  Highly recommended.
I got them reviewing my latest mri now, don't know that i will agree with surgery though


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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2016, 08:01:27 pm »

I hope that's 174.  Otherwise, you might have more problems than your back. 

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