Coaches Poll- Nope!!!

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[Ex-Trumpet]

Coaches don't vote in the coaches poll.

[Danny J]

Again...still think we are #25 come Tuesday or just missed the cut by a sliver. Win at Mizzou and we are for sure in the only poll that matters.

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http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/

[wupigsuey]

Coaches don't vote in the coaches poll.

Do you mean they have someone else do it for them?

[Vantage 8 dude]

To me that's fine. Keep on winning and the rankings will certainly take care of themselves.

[SnoopHoggyHog]

I think its funny LSU has 43 votes & we have 19.

WPS

[swinesation]

Only 19 votes - not even close. Lame.

[ErieHog]

I have no idea why people expect us to be ranked.

If you lose 5 games, you aren't getting ranked before the final poll of the year.    That's just how it goes.    It doesn't matter how hot you get, who you beat-- you aren't getting past a half-season's worth of losses, when there will be 30 teams that win 2/3rds of their games.

[wupigsuey]

I have no idea why people expect us to be ranked.

If you lose 5 games, you aren't getting ranked before the final poll of the year.    That's just how it goes.    It doesn't matter how hot you get, who you beat-- you aren't getting past a half-season's worth of losses, when there will be 30 teams that win 2/3rds of their games.

Yeah at first I was a little put off by it but look at the records of those teams in the 20's. Our record would look out of place

[ZERO]

I have no idea why people expect us to be ranked.

If you lose 5 games, you aren't getting ranked before the final poll of the year.    That's just how it goes.    It doesn't matter how hot you get, who you beat-- you aren't getting past a half-season's worth of losses, when there will be 30 teams that win 2/3rds of their games.

We'll be somewhere between #23-#25 if we beat Missouri and our Bowl opponent. Five losses during the regular season is unprecedented. Although, a team with five losses beating three ranked teams in a row (one of which being top ten) is also unprecedented to my knowledge.

[ErieHog]

We'll be somewhere between #23-#25 if we beat Missouri and our Bowl opponent. Five losses during the regular season is unprecedented. Although, a team with five losses beating three ranked teams in a row (one of which being top ten) is also unprecedented to my knowledge.

The key will be getting to that 8-5 mark.  Plenty of teams can get ranked at that level, and our schedule might let us set an all-time high mark for a 5 loss team, depending on who we beat in a bowl.

[ZERO]

I was looking through the polls back to when the BCS began, and it's actually quite common for 8-5 and 9-5 teams to be ranked with a Bowl win.

Are there any odds of us facing a ranked team during our Bowl if we go in 7-5? I'm betting not. It's crazy to think 11 SEC teams are eligible for a Bowl, with another possible two if Tennessee beats Vanderbilt (likely) and Kentucky beats Louisville (not likely).

[jry04]

I have no idea why people expect us to be ranked.

If you lose 5 games, you aren't getting ranked before the final poll of the year.    That's just how it goes.    It doesn't matter how hot you get, who you beat-- you aren't getting past a half-season's worth of losses, when there will be 30 teams that win 2/3rds of their games.

Win next week and we are ranked without a doubt. I did not expect to be this week, but a 3rd straight win over a top 20 team will lock us into the top 25.

Like you said, get an 8th win in a bowl, especially if it is as convincing as the last two games have been, and we will crack the top 20.

[Ex-Trumpet]

Do you mean they have someone else do it for them?

Why would a coach take time from game-planning to watch other games to properly evaluate/rank a team that they will never see?

[wupigsuey]

Why would a coach take time from game-planning to watch other games to properly evaluate/rank a team that they will never see?

don't know? was just asking if that's what you meant.

[arlhog]

you get what you earn.    we earned 5 losses and that doesn't get you ranked.   no one in the top 25 has more than 3 losses.   right now we are playing a lot better than a lot of the top 25 teams  but we have the losses.  no need to complain about it because it won't do any good anyway.  we need to worry about beating mizzou  right now and nothing else.   you take care of your business and everything will fall where it should.

[swinesation]

Well, all this makes you wonder what the criteria is for ranking teams in these polls. If the criteria is "list the 25 best teams in the country, right now, in order" then the hogs should probably be Top 10. I'm not saying I expect them to be or even that they should be; I'm just saying if the criteria for ranking were as I stated above, we should probably be Top 10.

Now, if the criteria is "rank the Top 25 teams according to their performance throughout this entire season," then of course we shouldn't be ranked.

So, does anyone know if the ranking is explicitly defined as based on current status or season-long performance?

[BAMAPERRY]

Hogs are 26th in the AP and 26th in the Coaches. Not too bad for a 5 loss team at this point.

[Corkscrew Johnson]

The whole ranking system is illogically applied.   It's supposed to rank the top teams in the country, yet the voters rank teams based on record.  You can only move down if you lose, so it favors teams with weak schedules.   

If this same exact team played TCU's schedule, we would have at most 1 or 2 losses and be ranked in the top 10.  Possibly undefeated.  Fact.  Instead, we are punished for playing in the best division in the history of college football.  Until voters have the balls to reward teams for strength of schedule and good losses,  it will never be a true ranking of the best teams, which is the whole basis for the playoff system.

[swinesation]

Well, obviously it's a flawed system if the team you just beat 30-0 is ranked 8 places ahead of you!

[AloRaptor]

Do you mean they have someone else do it for them?

A grad assistant would be my guess. 

[popcornhog]

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But only three spots out.

A win over Mizzou would do it.

[popcornhog]

Hogs are 26th in the AP and 26th in the Coaches. Not too bad for a 5 loss team at this point.

I haven't seen the AP, but we are three spots out in the coaches. How is that 26th?

Alabama public education? 

[redeye]

The key will be getting to that 8-5 mark.  Plenty of teams can get ranked at that level, and our schedule might let us set an all-time high mark for a 5 loss team, depending on who we beat in a bowl.

If we finish ranked at 8-5, that will be better then our 2009 team did (Petrino's 2nd.)  That was the team that nearly beat #1 Florida in the Swamp and I'm still convinced it was the best 5-loss team in the nation, but it didn't finish ranked in the polls.  But they did rank an 8-5 Auburn team that played a much easier schedule and who we destroyed in Fayetteville.

I can remember checking the schedules of every other 8-5 team in the nation that year and none were as impressive as Arkansas, though.  We played an incredibly difficult schedule that year (Georgia & Florida from the east, and road games against Alabama and LSU), but I'm not sure how you can say it was tougher then this year.

[BleedsRazorbackRed]

#25 in ESPN power poll

[redeye]

Hey, we're ahead of A&M and that's something some of us never thought we'd see this year.

update:  We're 26th and ahead of LSU and A&M in the AP.