Recruiting Is not The Problem

[Cartoon Man]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

[jimmur74]

Missouri didn't score a point at home against Georgia and Missouri is in the weakest division in the Conference

[Demaghog]

This staff is recruiting better than any previous staff in the SEC era. I just hope it will be enough to get competitive. Arkansas is at the bottom with Kentucky for worst recruiting territory.

[luke hawg]

We will never now what our recruiting capability is as long as we are the most unstable team in the conference.

[RazorPiggie]

Competitive? We've lost 2 game this year against 2 teams that were in the top 10 at the time by a combine total of 8 points. I'd say thats fairly competitive.

[ErieHog]

If you are recruiting in roughly the same range, change styles, and have much lower retention, then yes, Recruiting still absolutely matters.

One team has had continuity of scheme and leadership for over a decade.

The other,  has players that were recruited or played under 3 different HCs. 

That is a telling, telling difference.

[beebefootballfan]

We talking about the same Mizzou team that got skull fricked and laid down against UGA last week?  For some reason i don't remember them even scoring a point on UGA.


Mizzou looks good because they have played the weakest schedule of any east team.  If we had their schedule odds are we would be 6-1 right now.

[RazorbackRon]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

Are you talking about the same Mizzou team that lost to Georgia 34-0 or the one that lost to Indiana at home?

I'm confused ...... No, wait, you are.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

SDSU
Toledo
UCF
Indiana
South Carolina
Florida

[31to6]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

You have it all wrong.

Recruiting isn't the problem.

The problem is quality depth, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

Recruiting is the solution.

Mizzou doesn't have as highly ranked recruits as we do (or perhaps about even, depending on which service and year you look at) but what they do have is a staff that has been recruiting players into their system for over a decade.

[Piggfoot]

Lawd Ha Mercy!!! The ideas people have.

[popcornhog]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

What are you even talking about? Of course it's not. This staff only has one full class on campus. Next year's class is looking spectacular.

And Mizzou is not competitive. They had a great year last year but in a weak division. They're now middle of the road in a weak division.

[MissippHog]

Did you really make start this post after we had a better result against our only shared competition?  Not to mention they have only played one good team all year.
SDSU
Toledo
UCF
Indiana
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida

vs.

Auburn
Nichols State
Texas Tech
Northern Illinois
Texas A&M
Alabama
Georgia

[jry04]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

Are we not competitive? Mizzou lost to a terrible Indiana team, and 34-0 to UGA. I would say we are plenty competitive. They also do not play in the SEC West. We will likely beat Mizzou.

[arlhog]

We don't have the quality depth of the 4 teams we have lost to this year.  Call it what you want but recruiting better top to bottom will probably improve this problem in my opinion. 

[Pig Worshipper]

Recruiting is definitely one of our problems. There's not just ONE problem but if we continue to recruit better our record WILL improve.

[RazorPiggie]

Recruiting is definitely one of our problems. There's not just ONE problem but if we continue to recruit better our record WILL improve.

Correct. Look at what our Dline is going to be like. With a Dline that puts pressure on the QB it makes it easier for our DBs to cover.

[deedster84]

How long has the coaching staff been at Mizzou. How many years in their system. How many years recruiting players to run their scheme. That's the difference.

[Cartoon Man]

Yeah, I am talking about the Mizzou that only had 20 yards passing against florida, but still scored 42 pts.  How about last year?  2nd year in conference, played in conference championshipp game.  THey will mop the floor with us, mark it down.  My point is that we have just as good our better athletes .  So what's the problem?

[hogsanity]

so recruiting is not the problem?  That means you think the Hgs have just as good AND just as much talent as any team in the sec?  If thats what you think, you may be the proof that the guy who started the thread about out fans being unintelligent was looking for.

[H&D]

We will never now what our recruiting capability is as long as we are the most unstable team in the conference.

Bingo.

[Hogarusa]

Recruiting is a problem.  Always has been in the SEC, always will be

[deedster84]

Yeah, I am talking about the Mizzou that only had 20 yards passing against florida, but still scored 42 pts.  How about last year?  2nd year in conference, played in conference championshipp game.  THey will mop the floor with us, mark it down.  My point is that we have just as good our better athletes .  So what's the problem?

Friendly wager? How many points ya gonna give me if you are so sure they are going to beat us that bad?

[RazorPiggie]

We will never now what our recruiting capability is as long as we are the most unstable team in the conference.

Whats funny is we are currently recruiting better than we ever have before and thats with this losing streak. Just imagine how good it could be when we start winning.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Lol, he used Mizz as an example. There coach has also been there longer than 2 year and has his kind of players. Same with Miss State

[opineonswine]

This staff is recruiting better than any previous staff in the SEC era. I just hope it will be enough to get competitive. Arkansas is at the bottom with Kentucky for worst recruiting territory.

AMEN

[DeltaBoy]

Hooten and Bobbie both won more games their first 2 years than CBB has so far.

[Pulled(PP)pork]

Hooten and Bobbie both won more games their first 2 years than CBB has so far.

PP

[crabeyes]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

They have been in the same system for over ten years. 90% of their recruits redshirt and develop.

[DeltaBoy]

PP

At the Rate they are going this year Hooten and Bobby will have won more games in year 2.

[Pulled(PP)pork]

At the Rate they are going this year Hooten and Bobby will have won more games in year 2.

enlighten us about their respective SOS, if you want to compare apples to apples


PP

[DeltaBoy]

enlighten us about their respective SOS, if you want to compare apples to apples


PP

They all are in the SEC WEST,  Weither our not the West is better now is not in the equation because at the time the West was always up compared to ARK.

[Pulled(PP)pork]

They all are in the SEC WEST,  Weither our not the West is better now is not in the equation because at the time the West was always up compared to ARK.

it's not just the west we are talking about, there is ooc games too that played into their schedule.


PP

[hogsanity]

They all are in the SEC WEST,  Weither our not the West is better now is not in the equation because at the time the West was always up compared to ARK.

In HDns 1st season, he had Clint Stoerner as a seasoned Qb, Lucas and Eubanks and Davenport to throw to. He had Madre Hill and a couple other talented running backs, he had a solid o-line, several really good defenders, Barrett at CB was really really good.  And the SECW was not very good at all.

BP had a bevy of young but highly talented WR's, a qb that while not great had been through the sec wars, a decent o-line, and some experience on defense.  But that team was blown away by 4 or 5 opponents.

[The_Iceman]

SDSU
Toledo
UCF
Indiana
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida

LOL! We'd be 6-1 with that schedule.

[KCHOGFAN]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

Seriously?  Look at who they've played.  They had 119 total yards against Florida. 

[Cartoon Man]

Yet we have not beaten Florida since we have been in the conference.

[Cartoon Man]

Bottom line this team was not prepared to play Georgia.

[RazorPiggie]

Bottom line this team was not prepared to play Georgia.

That didn't go well for you. I'm sorry and I agree with you here.

[H&D]

We seemed prepared when we drove down the field and scored in the first series. It's like our fans forget that there is another team out there on the field. Georgia is good. That was a very good and fast defense. Collins and Williams were not picking up the blitz. It happens and for a number of reasons. They scored 21 points off of turnovers. Another TD or two off of a questionable penalty calls.

But yeah let's fire everyone and start from scratch, that'll fix everything.

[Pulled(PP)pork]

We seemed prepared when we drove down the field and scored in the first series. It's like our fans forget that there is another team out there on the field. Georgia is good. That was a very good and fast defense. Collins and Williams were not picking up the blitz. It happens and for a number of reasons. They scored 21 points off of turnovers. Another TD or two off of a questionable penalty calls.

But yeah let's fire everyone and start from scratch, that'll fix everything.

some want to start a "grass roots" movement to terminate,  if the coach was present at the pep rally the night before or consumed a alcoholic beverage.....egads!


PP

[H&D]

Those fans will never get what they want. We need stability and solid recruiting. This staff can provide that.

[Huckleberry Pig]

mega millions here in Texas is over $200M.

If I win, I can assure you all recruiting will no longer be an issue. 

We also would never have to worry about the refs being in the other teams pockets.  Nor would we ever have to worry about facilities.


Ya'll wish me luck.

[code red]

Look at Mizzou.  They don't recruit as well as we do, yet they are competitive.

The spread.....is a great equalizer.  Maty Mauk is a better than average Q.....and the SEC East stinks.....except UGA.  Therefore...I respectfully disagree.  Recruiting is the only way we are getting out of this hole.  We don't play in the East.

[hogsanity]

The spread.....is a great equalizer.  Maty Mauk is a better than average Q.....and the SEC East stinks.....except UGA.  Therefore...I respectfully disagree.  Recruiting is the only way we are getting out of this hole.  We don't play in the East.

You do realize that in their last two games COMBINED, Mauk has throw for 131 yards TOTAL.  HE put up a staggering 20 yards passing last Sat and all of 119 against UGA.  He has 14 tds and 9 ints on the season and 1227 yards passing.  BA has 13 tds only 4 ints and about 1250 yards passing.

So if Mauk is a better than avg Qb, so is BA, oh and BA has done his work against much stiffer competition that Mauk.

[code red]

You do realize that in their last two games COMBINED, Mauk has throw for 131 yards TOTAL.  HE put up a staggering 20 yards passing last Sat and all of 119 against UGA.  He has 14 tds and 9 ints on the season and 1227 yards passing.  BA has 13 tds only 4 ints and about 1250 yards passing.

So if Mauk is a better than avg Qb, so is BA, oh and BA has done his work against much stiffer competition that Mauk.

I agree but that trend will not continue.  UGA and UF are legit fronts.  Some of the best.  Heck...all Muschamp has is defensive players and good ones.  I he has had a few bad games but, I feel he rebounds quickly. 

[hogsanity]

I agree but that trend will not continue.  UGA and UF are legit fronts.  Some of the best.  Heck...all Muschamp has is defensive players and good ones.  I he has had a few bad games but, I feel he rebounds quickly. 

How big is the Mauk poster you have over your bed? He does not have as many passing yards in his last THREE GAMES COMBINED as did BA against GA.

[DeltaBoy]

I for one have lost all hope for BA and my faith in how smart CBB is is starting to falter since he keeps starting him.

[H&D]

Who should be starting Delta? Austin? Rafe? BA is not the reason we lost Sat. I swear some of you people would burn your new house down if you thought the paint wasn't drying fast enough.

[secfan30]

Yeah, I am talking about the Mizzou that only had 20 yards passing against florida, but still scored 42 pts.  How about last year?  2nd year in conference, played in conference championshipp game.  THey will mop the floor with us, mark it down.  My point is that we have just as good our better athletes .  So what's the problem?

Mop the flor with us? That means make it not even close, like Gergia did to Mizzo, What is your score prediction I'd like to get a little $$$ action going on this