will Bielema ever go with a different QB? is there no scenario?

[UAROCKDOG]

Qb has to learn the system.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

You can run the ball effectively.  A sophisticated offense with a QB in over his head his head? Dummy down the pass offense and put RP in. Matt Jones was a freshman too when he started getting serious playing time. Nutt wasn't an offensive genius and got that much.

Matt Jones runs a legit 4.3 Lasar in college and he didn't get on the field until game 4-5

[The_Iceman]

There is not a better QB on this team right now than Branson Allen. He wasn't the biggest problem today.

[root_hawg]

Not as fast as Marshall, Not the size of Prescott and I know you don't think he is Manziel.

Show me an article from practice.

Time will tell

[bphi11ips]

No way Rafe starts over AA or Storey, arm strength is not near either one and don't think he is fast enough to run in the SEC.

Which stat on Rivals is more inaccurate?

Austin Allen    6'2"  217

Rafe Peavey       4.5

[Großer Kriegschwein]

He runs a 4.5 40 how is that not fast enough? dak prescott,johnny Manziel run a 4.5, and Nick marshal ran a 4.6 Some of the best running QBs in the country.

Don't put RP in against a tough SEC defense until he's ready. They had BA start against Alabama before he was ready and it still affects him.

[hogfan58]

We'll never win a SEC game with BA at QB.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Not as fast as Marshall, Not the size of Prescott and I know you don't think he is Manziel.

Show me an article from practice.

Time will tell

He's not playing in a HUNH offense (Marshall/Prescott/Manziel)

[Dominicanhog]

We'll never win a SEC game with BA at QB.

Never IS a long time and he has a lot of games left...uh, I'll take the over.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

We'll never win a SEC game with BA at QB.

We play the Aggies again and it's ugly by halftime.  Your correct in thinking we may lose to #1 MSU & #3 Ole Miss but LSU & Missouri are VERY BEATABLE!

[goneal]

If we have a LOSING SEC record next year and CBB gets an extension, then we deserve whatever we get going forward. Personally, I wish Long would get the Michigan AD job and take CBB with him. We're good enough to win SOME of these games. The fact that we can't put together 4 quarters of relatively "stupid penalty" free and even marginally  consistant play is a blame SOMEBODY should be stepping up and accepting. I am sick of "we're getting there", "they're young", "they're hurt", "they're trying their best" or "we're building it the right way". BS!!! We're not experiencing ANYTHING that the rest of the SEC isn't or hasn't. Yeah Petrino screwed us up, and Long made a terrific blunder with JLS. But that is in the past. WE HAVE LOST 16 SEC GAMES IN A ROW!!! Hell Vanderbilt and Kentucky haven't managed to do that lately. These guys are weak mentally, they're not afraid of losing or failing and they need someone to be the bad guy here and make them start acting, thinking and playing like Arkansas and SEC caliber athletes. Beilema obviously wants to play the Mike Anderson role, so he had damn well better get someone who can and will be the Nolan Richardson of this team. Anyone who isn't morbidly ashamed of and sickend by this losing streak should turn in their credentials. This whole thing makes me want to puke.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

We'll never win a SEC game with BA at QB.

He'll win one in 2015.  Book it.

[artyhog]

With BA at the helm.  The Hogs will not win an SEC game.  We need serious upgrades at the corners and safyies.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

We play the Aggies again and it's ugly by halftime.  Your correct in thinking we may lose to #1 MSU & #3 Ole Miss but LSU & Missouri are VERY BEATABLE!

UGA was beatable.  A&M easily beatable.  Bama was even beatable. 

[jkstock04]

We play the Aggies again and it's ugly by halftime.  Your correct in thinking we may lose to #1 MSU & #3 Ole Miss but LSU & Missouri are VERY BEATABLE!

Seems legit. Just like the other 80-90% of Hogville "experts" that easily see the improvement....all week long that guaranteed not only a win but a blowout win against Georgia because they are such a "soft team" that hasn't played a tough west team like us.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

So which is it goneal?

If anyone here is even remotely close to the situation in Fayetteville, please tell. Do these coaches ever openly challenge these players? Like last year, they seem awfully quick to just shut down and or give up. Two completely different halves played Saturday, just like last year. Partly I blame the staff for not being able, or willing, to make adjustments. I know a lot will say that they were just outmanned and worn down. I just don't buy that. Who was more outmanned Saturday? Arkansas vs Auburn or UCA vs TExas Tech? These guys may not be all 4 and 5 stars, but they're better than what we're seeing on the field. I have never seen any of these coaches chew someone's a@@ like I have Saban or like Auburns staff did Saturday. All we ever hear is how they're great kids and it will take time. I think back to Nolan's teams, and what always struck me about them was that they were afraid of nothing, other than disappointing Nolan and losing. I just don't see this team having any great fear of failure.

[Jek Tono Porkins]

I'm telling you, I saw the kid play multiple times in HS, he isn't starting at Ark unless Storey falls and breaks his leg.

You sure have a high opinion of your opinion. Apparently you know something about him that the coaches at Arkansas, Auburn, Kansas State, and many others don't.

[The_Bionic_Pig]

UGA was beatable.  A&M easily beatable.  Bama was even beatable. 

That's a combined record of 12-1 (17-5 if you include A&M) believe it or not Arkansas is good were just playing Great teams on our schedule.   

[ballz2thewall]

ba spent most of the game under extreme pressure, and most of the time that he had time, our WR's dilly-dally about.

there are better qb's than allen.  but i don't see that as the glaring issue.

we just made mistakes and it's hard to dig out of that.

[Xterrahogfan]

DON'T YOU KNOW BRET BIELEMA IS PAID $3M A YEAR? DON'T YOU THINK BIELEMA IS PLAYING EVERY PLAYER AT EVERY POSITION WHO HE THINKS GIVES ARKANSAS THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN EVERY GAME?!!!!

No, I don't.

[hogfan58]

He'll win one in 2015.  Book it.

Who will we beat....@ Bama, @ LSU, @ Ole Miss? Miss St, the #1 team in the nation this year? Auburn? TAMU? Tenn might be the easiest game, but it's on the road.

[Demaghog]

We'll never win a SEC game with BA at QB.

Unless we play another team with a bad QB I'm beginning to think this is true. We don't have enough talent to make up for bad QB play.

[poloprince]

Rafe is the best qb, he needs to be in there with some read option.

[Danny J]

Rafe is the best qb, he needs to be in there with some read option.

Totally agree. We currently have no answer for the blitz as tonight showed. If we are not going to take advantage of the blitz via a screen game or whatever then you need to have a mobile QB. I promise you that Chavis at LSU will do exactly what UGA did today. The same goes for Ole Miss and MSU.

[jkincaid]

BA is.........

- momentum killer
- Not an SEC QB
- Fixated on one receiver - makes horrible decisions

......shall I continue

[Demaghog]

BA seems so slow when he passes the ball. Perhaps that is why we don't throw screens-- he can't get the ball out fast enough. There's just too many throws he can't make it and  it really hurts us.

[oldhog63]

We'll never win a SEC game with BA at QB.

Unfortunately, I agree with you. Told my kids the exact same thing today. I hope he proves us wrong, but I would be surprised it he did.

[CDBHawg]

Peavy is a serious run threat something Arkansas hasn't had since Jones..and exactly what Bielema played at Wisconsin.

And again, WHAT?!?!??!?

[Bebop]

There is not a better QB on this team right now than Branson Allen. He wasn't the biggest problem today.

Then why do we kept putting Brandon in if Branson is better? Is he the youngest brother or something?

[d1nonlyhogfan]

As long as BA continues to be the starting QB, I don't think we'll get over the hump. Now if nobody beats him out in Spring or Fall next year, that just means all our 4* guys were grossly overrated. Which means we will be lucky to go bowling next year.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

That's a combined record of 12-1 (17-5 if you include A&M) believe it or not Arkansas is good were just playing Great teams on our schedule.   

So what.  All beatable.  2 we should have beaten.  LSU will continue to improve.  So will Mizzou.  We will be fortunate to get 1 of the 2.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Who will we beat....@ Bama, @ LSU, @ Ole Miss? Miss St, the #1 team in the nation this year? Auburn? TAMU? Tenn might be the easiest game, but it's on the road.

I expect MSU will drop off measurably.  A&M may be showing to be a fraud.  Mizzou at home.  We'll get 1.

[Danny J]

The play that sticks out the most to me was the pass in the second half to Walker 8 yards behind the LOS with a DB bearing down on him..BA had to see it as there was nobody in his line of sight and he still threw the ball. Glad Walker had the good sense to not catch the ball. I couldn't believe he tried to make that pass. Terrible decision.

[Hogarusa]

I dont see BA being unseated at starting QB.  There are other spots where people need to step up bigger than BA.  Its tough to see a freshmen qB unseating a SR QB with 2+ years of starts.
I dont think there is a competition until 2016.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

As long as BA continues to be the starting QB, I don't think we'll get over the hump. Now if nobody beats him out in Spring or Fall next year, that just means all our 4* guys were grossly overrated. Which means we will be lucky to go bowling next year.

Completely true.  And the hump is well down the road I think...regardless of the QB. 

[Großer Kriegschwein]

I dont see BA being unseated at starting QB.  There are other spots where people need to step up bigger than BA.  Its tough to see a freshmen qB unseating a SR QB with 2+ years of starts.
I dont think there is a competition until 2016.

At some point you have to think about the future and unfortunately I don't think our future has certain players contributing in it. So you pick a good "leader" but doesn't perform well enough on the field. That's an interesting pickle to be in but one you have to correct.

[bphi11ips]

I dont see BA being unseated at starting QB.  There are other spots where people need to step up bigger than BA.  Its tough to see a freshmen qB unseating a SR QB with 2+ years of starts.
I dont think there is a competition until 2016.

But it takes 3 years to install half of Chaney's playbook.

[bphi11ips]

At some point you have to think about the future and unfortunately I don't think our future has certain players contributing in it. So you pick a good "leader" but doesn't perform well enough on the field.

You just described Jake Locker.

[cypert2]

I dont see BA being unseated at starting QB.  There are other spots where people need to step up bigger than BA.  Its tough to see a freshmen qB unseating a SR QB with 2+ years of starts.
I dont think there is a competition until 2016.

For good or bad, this is the obvious truth.

[redeye]

I have been very tough on Allen before, but this is NOT a bash thread. It's just a simple question: coach seems determined to play Brandon no matter what -- Is there no situation when he says "let's try something different." 

Why has coach hitched his wagon to BA 100%?

He goes away from RB after fumbles.  Pulls receivers after poor effort.   Sits guys after dumb penalties.  But snap in snap out Allen is still there.   Makes me think there's something else going on -- but what?  Is everyone of our quarterbacks terribly worse than Brandon?  That's my guess.  again I am not bashing. I've done that before , but this is a legitimate question

That's a great question.  Based on history, I'm skeptical if anything other then an injury will ever keep Brandon from starting.  I think we'll see him back as the starter next year.

However, I don't think that decision is as critical as how he's being used.  Allen can be a serviceable game-manager, but we're asking him to win games for us, and I don't think he can do that.  We're asking him to throw the ball too much and makes plays out of nothing, but if that's the route we're going to take, then we need someone else.

If we make him mostly a handeroffer, we may lose games, but at least we're capable of doing that well.  But please don't ask Allen to convert QB sneaks for 2-point conversions.

[MushroomCloudHog]

Matt Jones runs a legit 4.3 Lasar in college and he didn't get on the field until game 4-5

Okay, this was game 7. We were 0-3 in conference at that point. We are now 0-4. Zac Clark was a fayetteville Qb also, just like Allen. RP might not run a 4.3 but I have more faith in the tools he has, over BA at this point. 

[Sooie71923]

NO!!!!

There will be a new qb when there is a better one than we have now.

New qb....

Do we need new ol, RBs, and WRs too?

Because 1 player is not keeping the team from winning.

[moses_007]

I will be glad when all the Allens are gone.

It'll be a day of celebratioin just like when the Dick brothers were finally gone.  I hope Arkansas NEVER again recruits two brothers at quarterback.  It doesn't work guys...pure and simple.

[mbd1475]

Oh god. I had never considered that the Allen brothers are just like the Dick brothers.  I am back in Nutt land. Someone save me. I'm dying here.

[showme]

There is not a better QB on this team right now than Branson Allen. He wasn't the biggest problem today.

Don't see anyone saying he is he biggest problem. The discussion is about the fact that he is a problem if your goal is to win multiple SEC games and whether the coach will ever replace him with a different QB. Hence the title of the thread being what it is and not "Brandon Allen is the biggest problem today".

[DeltaBoy]

Again Peavy's lack of knowledge of the entire playbook is the only....only reason he's not starting. Redshirt & Develop your "Mobile" QB along with your most highly recruited reciever...then add KJ Hill next season. 

Georgia lived in the Arkansas backfield 1st & 2nd Qtr until Chaney made Blocking assignment adjustments.

So that proves my thinking Chaney is a Blooming Idiot.

[Joshua Michael Irwin]

Here's the situation where he doesn't play him:

Brandon Allen graduated, and Ty Story is ready to go.

[S.A.D.C]

Why is everyone so convinced that RP is better than BA?  Seriously asking here- have you seen practices or was he really good at fall camp or something? 

[hogsanity]

Why is everyone so convinced that RP is better than BA?  Seriously asking here- have you seen practices or was he really good at fall camp or something? 

Because they have convinced themselves they could run a d1 program.

[root_hawg]

Did Wilson run for a lot of yards at Wisconsin?