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The Line For The Georgia Game

Started by hogcard1964, October 12, 2014, 07:08:38 am

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What will the line open at for Georgia?

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hogcard1964

I think we'll actually be favored.  Your thoughts?

moses_007

Georgia, -10

I don't see Arkansas being favored by Vegas in any SEC game left on the schedule. 

 

hogcard1964

Quote from: moses_007 on October 12, 2014, 07:09:24 am
Georgia, -10

I don't see Arkansas being favored by Vegas in any SEC game left on the schedule.

Keep in mind the Bama line opened at -9 and ended at -7 Friday.  Georgia isn't near Bama.

Hawgndaaz

It will open around -3 UGA, but will be close to 1 by kickoff.

hogcard1964


Dominicanhog

Hogs -10 thru 3 quarters ... GA -3 for the game.

HSVhogfan2

Georgia 5 1/2 or so. If it's that high take the points and have yourself a nice vacation.
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Quote from: moses_007 on October 12, 2014, 07:09:24 am
Georgia, -10

I don't see Arkansas being favored by Vegas in any SEC game left on the schedule.

UGA will definitely be favored, but I could see us being favored over LSU and/or Missouri.
WPS

popcornhog

Quote from: hogcard1964 on October 12, 2014, 07:15:18 am
Keep in mind the Bama line opened at -9 and ended at -7 Friday.  Georgia isn't near Bama.

I don't think this Bama team is all that great. They'll likely lose to State and AU.
WPS

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hogcard1964

Quote from: popcornhog on October 12, 2014, 09:29:02 am
UGA will definitely be favored, but I could see us being favored over LSU and/or Missouri.

No chance.  The SEC West is currently 4-0 against the East.  It's a completely different level of football.

popcornhog

Quote from: hogcard1964 on October 12, 2014, 09:37:06 am
No chance.  The SEC West is currently 4-0 against the East.  It's a completely different level of football.

You are correct. And I think we beat UGA.

But your argument does not hold water. Yes, the SEC West is undefeated against the East (and all other foes), but guess who else the SEC West is undefeated against -- Arkansas. So we're in the same category that the East is -- winless against the West.

Again, I believe we'll beat UGA but it's got nothing to do with the West v East.
WPS

 

pigstuff

Georgia is a better team than Bama.  Bama has really fallen off.

ballz2thewall

not sure on the open. i'd say a pick at KO.
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hogcard1964

Quote from: pigstuff on October 12, 2014, 09:44:42 am
Georgia is a better team than Bama.  Bama has really fallen off.

No, they are not.

secfan30

With the way the games have been picked this year, I'm guessing Georgia by 2 1/2

secfan30

Quote from: pigstuff on October 12, 2014, 09:44:42 am
Georgia is a better team than Bama.  Bama has really fallen off.

Do you even understand football?

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popcornhog

Quote from: pigstuff on October 12, 2014, 09:44:42 am
Georgia is a better team than Bama.  Bama has really fallen off.

Lol wut?
WPS


Hawghiggs

 We are going to beat Georgia 35-17.

hogcard1964

Quote from: Hawghiggs on October 12, 2014, 11:06:53 am
We are going to beat Georgia 35-17.

I agree, it will be something close to that.

popcornhog

WPS

 

TheGreatHogsby

I picked option 1. My option not on there. Hogs win 27-14.

onebadrubi

It will be a small + for Arkansas.  The money will move it to a PK or very close, similar to tech game.  We stopped Bama's run game for the most part, that is all georgia has. 

Locutus_of_Boar

Quote from: onebadrubi on October 12, 2014, 12:09:42 pm
It will be a small + for Arkansas.  The money will move it to a PK or very close, similar to tech game.  We stopped Bama's run game for the most part, that is all georgia has.

I agree.  Arkansas has beaten the spread consistently as an underdog but doesn't win straight up.

ErieHog

It'll be something like Georgia -5.5.

We're about the only people in America who think this will open as a pick'em.
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hog.goblin

Quote from: ErieHog on October 12, 2014, 12:43:05 pm
It'll be something like Georgia -5.5.

We're about the only people in America who think this will open as a pick'em.

This

hog.goblin

Quote from: moses_007 on October 12, 2014, 07:09:24 am
Georgia, -10

I don't see Arkansas being favored by Vegas in any SEC game left on the schedule. 

If not a pick'em I think we'll be favored at Mizzou

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Quote from: hogcard1964 on October 12, 2014, 07:15:18 am
Keep in mind the Bama line opened at -9 and ended at -7 Friday.  Georgia isn't near Bama.
You're right, Georgia is actually better than Alabama right now. The Crimson Tide is only half a team. They have a good defense and an offense in total disarray much like last year's Florida squad. Georgia is going to win the SEC East and Alabama is going to lose three of their next six games, at least.

Pigdiana Jones

What do the -10 and -whatever # mean?
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Quote from: Pigdiana Jones on October 12, 2014, 01:08:43 pm
What do the -10 and -whatever # mean?

When you see  Team A,  -10,  it means Team A is favored by 10 points in that game.   If they win by 11, people who bet on them win money.  If they win by 9,  people who bet on them, lose money.

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elksnort

Is Georgia's run defense as good as Bama's?

The answer to this is just about all we need to know.

ErieHog

Quote from: elksnort on October 12, 2014, 01:21:55 pm
Is Georgia's run defense as good as Bama's?

The answer to this is just about all we need to know.

Given the level of competition both have played, they're statistically worse, but  ability-wise, better.

Georgia has the best linebackers in the country, particularly at shedding blocks;  Alabama's run defense starts on the D-Line.

Our run offense thrives when Kirkland and Skipper and the guys get a hat on a linebacker at the second level, and keep them blocked.

We'll likely have fewer lost yardage plays from DL penetration which set up Bama's D for 2nd and 3rd and over 10 all night last night , but we're likely to have as many, if not more runs of less than 3 yards.

This is, on paper, the absolute worst defense vs. our offense matchup of the year, for us.

Clemson- 88 rushing yards.   South Carolina did manage 176-- which would be our second worst output of the season.  Troy- 47 yards.  Tennessee- 117.  Vandy- 132 .   Missouri- 50

They're very good against the run.   Very, very good.
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elksnort

Eriehog, your analysis doesn't make me feel any better. 


ErieHog

Quote from: elksnort on October 12, 2014, 01:39:37 pm
Eriehog, your analysis doesn't make me feel any better. 



This game has always been a loss to me, with or without Gurley.   It really was one of our worst matchups, even if they are about the 6th best team on our schedule.  Match ups matter-- and we don't match up well with Georgia, at all.
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Quote from: ErieHog on October 12, 2014, 01:40:49 pm
This game has always been a loss to me, with or without Gurley.   It really was one of our worst matchups, even if they are about the 6th best team on our schedule.  Match ups matter-- and we don't match up well with Georgia, at all.

I agree and think Georgia will be a 3 pt favorite. If it was played in Athens, it would be around a 10 pt. line.
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elksnort

I'm too lazy to look at it. How well did Mike Davis do against Georgia running the ball?

Hogarusa

I dont see how a team on a 15 game conference losing streak could be favored over a top 10 team.  5 points for Georgia
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Our D really stood out in yesterday's  game. Chubb stubs his toe in this one.
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elksnort

Quote from: ErieHog on October 12, 2014, 01:40:49 pm
This game has always been a loss to me, with or without Gurley.   It really was one of our worst matchups, even if they are about the 6th best team on our schedule.  Match ups matter-- and we don't match up well with Georgia, at all.
of course, matchups matter. I didn't think we matched up well against Alabama.  I thought we did at least enough on offense to keep the ball away from Alabama. Bama's offense may not be so great this year but Rob Smith and staff have done a phenomenal job with our defense. 

ErieHog

Quote from: elksnort on October 12, 2014, 01:57:26 pm
of course, matchups matter. I didn't think we matched up well against Alabama.  I thought we did at least enough on offense to keep the ball away from Alabama. Bama's offense may not be so great this year but Rob Smith and staff have done a phenomenal job with our defense. 

We matched up better with Bama, than we do with Georgia.   We need to play the same kind of defense we did this week, if we even want a shot at it.
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rogers-hog

Quote from: ErieHog on October 12, 2014, 01:32:07 pm
Given the level of competition both have played, they're statistically worse, but  ability-wise, better.

Georgia has the best linebackers in the country, particularly at shedding blocks;  Alabama's run defense starts on the D-Line.

Our run offense thrives when Kirkland and Skipper and the guys get a hat on a linebacker at the second level, and keep them blocked.

We'll likely have fewer lost yardage plays from DL penetration which set up Bama's D for 2nd and 3rd and over 10 all night last night , but we're likely to have as many, if not more runs of less than 3 yards.

This is, on paper, the absolute worst defense vs. our offense matchup of the year, for us.

Clemson- 88 rushing yards.   South Carolina did manage 176-- which would be our second worst output of the season.  Troy- 47 yards.  Tennessee- 117.  Vandy- 132 .   Missouri- 50

They're very good against the run.   Very, very good.
these are all pretty bad rushing teams. Now Ga did hold most of them below their averages but not by a lot


RANK   TEAM   G   RUSH   RUSH YDS   YDS/RUSH   RUSH TD   YPG
92   Clemson   6   260   847   3.26   10   141.2
61   South Carolina   6   226   1031   4.56   11   171.8
91   Troy   6   221   848   3.84   10   141.3
109   Tennessee   6   222   658   2.96   8   109.7
108   Vanderbilt   7   213   774   3.63   5   110.6
76   Missouri   6   214   940   4.39   7   156.7

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/23/p1

ErieHog

Quote from: rogers-hog on October 12, 2014, 02:24:45 pm
these are all pretty bad rushing teams. Now Ga did hold most of them below their averages but not by a lot


RANK   TEAM   G   RUSH   RUSH YDS   YDS/RUSH   RUSH TD   YPG
92   Clemson   6   260   847   3.26   10   141.2
61   South Carolina   6   226   1031   4.56   11   171.8
91   Troy   6   221   848   3.84   10   141.3
109   Tennessee   6   222   658   2.96   8   109.7
108   Vanderbilt   7   213   774   3.63   5   110.6
76   Missouri   6   214   940   4.39   7   156.7

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/23/p1

Not by a lot?  Clemson: 40+ yards off their average,   Troy: 95+ yards off their average,  Missouri- 100 yards off their average.

Their numbers suffer from having played against Georgia.

Run defense is the one thing Georgia does very well.   They give up less than 3 yards a carry--  Alabama gives up about 2.5 a carry.


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wupigsuey

Quote from: Hawgndaaz on October 12, 2014, 09:04:10 am
It will open around -3 UGA, but will be close to 1 by kickoff.

kinda what I'm thinking
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Quote from: popcornhog on October 12, 2014, 09:29:02 am
UGA will definitely be favored, but I could see us being favored over LSU and/or Missouri.
good call.
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