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I hope BB stays for another 20yrs

Started by Tweeter, September 28, 2014, 09:58:44 am

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Tweeter

I think BB is going to take us places as a football program that we haven't seen in a long time.  The dude can recruit and from what I have heard the players love him. He can get it done but what I worry about are the idiot fans that think we should be playing for a national championship every year here.  That's just not going to happen hear and I worry about everyone running BB off. Guys we have an elite coach and we need to e grateful for him. Damn he's only into his rebuilding process for a year and a half now.  Let him do his thing and relax.

twistitup

Another 20? Has he already been here 20 ?

Dayum, time flies
How you gonna win when you ain't right within?

Here I am again mixing misery and gin....

 

010HogFan

That's what I'm saying. We have some total goons as fans.

ArkansasI

I must say that there is no retreat in this group. I really love the direction that the program is going - coaches and players.

Our defense deserves major kudos. I hope our fans appreciate the work being done.

Keep charging Hogs!

IntegrityHog

GREAT post, and totally agree.  This was never going to be a bowl season, but rather a season to show improvement.   We have done this IN SPADES.  We are a totally different team from last year.  It's not CBB's fault that we play in the NFC Southeast Division.  Heck, our first 3 conference games are all against top 6 teams nationally.  Think about that - after the Bama game, we'll have played HALF of the TOP SIX.

Next year we get Mizzou and MSU at home, which could be potentially wins.  If the SEC losing streak is up to 25 games by the time the MSU game rolls around, that will be a huge game for us, as it could propel us to a bowl game.  And then, if we are 5-6 heading into the Mizzou game, the atmosphere at War Memorial will be electric, and I think we could knock off the Tigers to get that bowl invite.  Of course, we still have to take care of business in the non-com games, but I'm not too worried about that one.

Because of the schedule, this is just going to be a tough year.  We have improved a lot, and are also improving each week.  Recruiting is the best it's been in 5 years, and we are getting to red-shirt a lot of kids.  We are also getting high-quality kids, which means our depth won't be impacted by players getting kicked off the team.  My advice is to just enjoy the progress this year, and look forward to better days down the road.   WPS!!!! #1-0!!!!!

Hoggish1

Somehow we need to get rid of the agenda driven posters who:

1.  Are still butt sore over losing Nutts

2.  Are butt sore over losing Petrino

3. Are butt sore over not getting Marazahn

Everybody who's left, like yourself, already understands we are on our way, but those others will never see it, even when it bites them in the butt.

Jerrajo

I think there are just posters who want to win a conference game. That doesnt mean they have an agenda. We hurt ourselves on penalties in that game and frankly lost it because of stupid penalties. Thats something Bret says we wouldn't have. We did. I love Bret as much as anyone. But if he stops letting receivers get behind the defense late in the game like LSU last year and the Aggies several times this game when we had them beat then we win.

A coach who is known for being a defensive specialist should NOT have this problem. I believe CBB can recruit and I believe his players love him and play hard for him. But I would never mistake him for an x''s and o's guy on either side of the ball. He's clearly NOT !!

How is it your claim to fame is mistake free football when you lose every conference game you have a shot at because idiotic penalties ?

How do you consistently call defensive alignments that allow receivers to run past your defense ?

CBB needs to learn from this loss as much as any of his players.

First keep a stinking safety much deeper when you have a big lead and your playing a team that can hit the long ball. Duh.

Second teach your guys some discipline. Skipper tripping that guy was a complete lack of discipline.

Third Stop putting in freshmen centers that are going to cause us problems snapping the ball when the game is on the line. If Smoothers ? Or whoever the center is needs a break burn a freaking timeout !!!! Don't put a guy in who isn't ready !!!

I'd like to see CBB be here a while too. IF HE CLEANS UP HIS MISTAKES TOO !!!

TMc

One thing I like what Bielema said in his press conference.., when asked about the progress they were making.., he said "I didn't come here to make progress - I came here to win".  He will, when he gets a few more pieces.

cubsfan5150

Quote from: Tweeter on September 28, 2014, 09:58:44 am
I think BB is going to take us places as a football program that we haven't seen in a long time.  The dude can recruit and from what I have heard the players love him. He can get it done but what I worry about are the idiot fans that think we should be playing for a national championship every year here.  That's just not going to happen hear and I worry about everyone running BB off. Guys we have an elite coach and we need to e grateful for him. Damn he's only into his rebuilding process for a year and a half now.  Let him do his thing and relax.

I'm in the same boat and I hope all the bums that don't support him find another school to root for.
QuoteWest Side Rooter wrote:

Always best to talk [expletive] about a team when you don't have to face them again.

I'd do the same. LaRussa's a nutjob and would probably throw at his head.
ETA: A bottle of wine, not a baseball.
ETA: Empty bottle, obviously.

three hog night

Quote from: Hoggish1 on September 28, 2014, 10:39:33 am
Somehow we need to get rid of the agenda driven posters who:

1.  Are still butt sore over losing Nutts

2.  Are butt sore over losing Petrino

3. Are butt sore over not getting Marazahn

Everybody who's left, like yourself, already understands we are on our way, but those others will never see it, even when it bites them in the butt.

Bingo. 
Petrino left a mess and Bielema is trying to fill in the talent gaps.  Anderson finally has some talent to work with.  He needs more at select positions and that will come in the next recruiting class. 
Posters that think they are Jim Rhome are ruining message boards.

Tick Hog

The knock on BB is he can't close in the big game. Well in the SEC west they're all big so why don't we let him win a conference game before giving him an extension.

Hogarusa

I'll ride the wave where it takes me

Huckleberry Pig

tough loss yesterday but love the direction this program is going.  CBB is our guy.

 

Torqued pork

Twenty years is an eternity in coaching these days. Can we see a won\loss record before we commit?

Razorback_Mack

Have you seen his contract? He's gonna get time to do his job.....there's nothing fans can do about it. Post makes no sense. He's gonna get 5 years and that's more than anybody can ask for in today's world of college football.

pigbacon

The longer the tenure the more we will know about this coach as fans. The aspects I think allows a coach to remain stable within a program:
1. Winning
2. Recruiting (hence no. 1)
3. Recognizing his own weaknesses and plugging the gap or changing as needed
4. Running a clean program

Ultimately, No. 3 is the tricky one and is the demise of many. I believe we have a coach who can do enough of the others- but time will tell.

Jerrajo

Quote from: TMc on September 28, 2014, 11:08:24 am
One thing I like what Bielema said in his press conference.., when asked about the progress they were making.., he said "I didn't come here to make progress - I came here to win".  He will, when he gets a few more pieces.

I won't disagree that he could use a few more pieces ... A mobile quarterback would be huge in this offense. But we had that game won yesterday. And it was NOT due to lack of us having the right pieces.

One or more of our players lacked discipline.. Thats coaching. Receivers got behind the defense more than once. Thats coaching.

Granted with more talent we could win more. Any coach could say that. I'd like to see CBB be UNCOMMON. And make decisions that help us win for a change. There's no excuse for not having our safety deep enough on both of those long tosses. Happened at LSU and happens again against the Aggies.

Come on coach.

3kgthog

I think we should be winning no fewer than 1 SEC game per year. He hasn't even accomplished that yet. But, he is a champ at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

pigbacon

Quote from: Jerrajo on September 28, 2014, 12:37:25 pm
I won't disagree that he could use a few more pieces ... A mobile quarterback would be huge in this offense. But we had that game won yesterday. And it was NOT due to lack of us having the right pieces.

One or more of our players lacked discipline.. Thats coaching. Receivers got behind the defense more than once. Thats coaching.

Granted with more talent we could win more. Any coach could say that. I'd like to see CBB be UNCOMMON. And make decisions that help us win for a change. There's no excuse for not having our safety deep enough on both of those long tosses. Happened at LSU and happens again against the Aggies.

Come on coach.

BA is a fairly mobile QB. I really wished he would have tucked and ran the ball a couple of those time he chose to throw Out of bounds. The threat of him running would help him.

twistitup

Quote from: 3kgthog on September 28, 2014, 12:47:09 pm
I think we should be winning no fewer than 1 SEC game per year. He hasn't even accomplished that yet. But, he is a champ at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
How you gonna win when you ain't right within?

Here I am again mixing misery and gin....

MountieDawg

I was not a believer in CBB, but I have been impressed by the improvement this year. The SEC West though is the toughest it's ever been and that improvement may not show in the W column this year. But don't hate those fans that aren't ready to sign him for 20 years. No AD with half a brain would sign any coach to a 20 year deal who hasn't won a conf game in 18 months.
SEC!

TMc

Quote from: Jerrajo on September 28, 2014, 12:37:25 pm
I won't disagree that he could use a few more pieces ... A mobile quarterback would be huge in this offense. But we had that game won yesterday. And it was NOT due to lack of us having the right pieces.

One or more of our players lacked discipline.. Thats coaching. Receivers got behind the defense more than once. Thats coaching.

Granted with more talent we could win more. Any coach could say that. I'd like to see CBB be UNCOMMON. And make decisions that help us win for a change. There's no excuse for not having our safety deep enough on both of those long tosses. Happened at LSU and happens again against the Aggies.

Come on coach.


Well.., all this is true - but it still comes down to pieces.  Yes we have a pretty good starting 22 (in most spots).  The problem comes down to quality depth so that you can finish out these games.  Example, getting the blocks late to kill the clock.., not letting a guy get by you, missing a key tackle.., and so on.  So when I say he needs more pieces - he does, and it all translates into quality depth so these guys can finish people off.

chitwnhog

Quote from: Hoggish1 on September 28, 2014, 10:39:33 am
Somehow we need to get rid of the agenda driven posters who:

1.  Are still butt sore over losing Nutts

2.  Are butt sore over losing Petrino

3. Are butt sore over not getting Marazahn

Everybody who's left, like yourself, already understands we are on our way, but those others will never see it, even when it bites them in the butt.

Heheheheh....yeah the powers that be have shown over and over that they have no intentions of getting rid of the types of posters you mention. Just suck it up boy it's Hogville and they likes their Hogville just like it is.

southarkhog06

Quote from: Hoggish1 on September 28, 2014, 10:39:33 am
Somehow we need to get rid of the agenda driven posters who:

1. Are still butt sore over losing Nutts

2.  Are butt sore over losing Petrino

3. Are butt sore over not getting Marazahn

Everybody who's left, like yourself, already understands we are on our way, but those others will never see it, even when it bites them in the butt.
these ppl cant be real..........can they?

 

twistitup

Quote from: southarkhog06 on September 28, 2014, 05:23:09 pm
these ppl cant be real..........can they?

Very few actually exist, it's just a convenient label put on those not agreeing w EVERYTHING done by the current regime
How you gonna win when you ain't right within?

Here I am again mixing misery and gin....

southarkhog06

Quote from: twistitup on September 28, 2014, 05:27:37 pm
Very few actually exist, it's just a convenient label put on those not agreeing w EVERYTHING done by the current regime
I get it. I get tired of ppl acting like they know more about football than our coaches too, but I also understand that this was a gut wrenching loss and there will be criticisms. I personally like every member of this staff, but they are paid well and don't need me to defend them.

southarkhog06

Quote from: twistitup on September 28, 2014, 05:27:37 pm
Very few actually exist, it's just a convenient label put on those not agreeing w EVERYTHING done by the current regime
Oh and I forgot about Harry King he is one of them.

LZH

If this thing goes south from here on out, you guys deserve everything you get.

southarkhog06

Quote from: LZH on September 28, 2014, 05:41:43 pm
If this thing goes south from here on out, you guys deserve everything you get.
its been a long day but im not quite sure what you are getting at here?

BallHog1

Quote from: Jerrajo on September 28, 2014, 12:37:25 pm
I won't disagree that he could use a few more pieces ... A mobile quarterback would be huge in this offense. But we had that game won yesterday. And it was NOT due to lack of us having the right pieces.

One or more of our players lacked discipline.. Thats coaching. Receivers got behind the defense more than once. Thats coaching.

Granted with more talent we could win more. Any coach could say that. I'd like to see CBB be UNCOMMON. And make decisions that help us win for a change. There's no excuse for not having our safety deep enough on both of those long tosses. Happened at LSU and happens again against the Aggies.

Come on coach.

Give us a two platoons of capable offensive lineman and we don't get tired and slow down in the 4th quarter. His recruiting appears to be accomplishing that.
Folks that are beating up on the guy for not winning last year and even this year have no idea what it takes to play in the SEC. We were in a deep hole and he's getting us out of it.

LZH

Quote from: southarkhog06 on September 28, 2014, 05:49:04 pm
its been a long day but im not quite sure what you are getting at here?

Just sayin that the 20 year thing sounds like a Houston Nutt scenario.

chitwnhog

Quote from: southarkhog06 on September 28, 2014, 05:49:04 pm
its been a long day but im not quite sure what you are getting at here?

When it comes right down to it LZH doesn't like Bielema, he has valid reasons. I don't agree with him and he's been playing nice of late but....

WorfHog

If he continues to show that he can't finish a game something needs to change. That's four SEC wins in a row that I've watched vanish.  That's on the coaches. 

incHOGnito

Quote from: Tweeter on September 28, 2014, 09:58:44 am
I think BB is going to take us places as a football program that we haven't seen in a long time.  The dude can recruit and from what I have heard the players love him. He can get it done but what I worry about are the idiot fans that think we should be playing for a national championship every year here.  That's just not going to happen hear and I worry about everyone running BB off. Guys we have an elite coach and we need to e grateful for him. Damn he's only into his rebuilding process for a year and a half now.  Let him do his thing and relax.

Don't mistake what you read on this board as the attitude of razorbacks fans as a whole. The lunatic fringe is well represented here.

southarkhog06

Quote from: LZH on September 28, 2014, 05:54:36 pm
Just sayin that the 20 year thing sounds like a Houston Nutt scenario.
20 years is a bit much but im more than happy to have him for the five on his contract but no more than 3 at a time after that. even really good coaches get stale/complacent when given too long of a contract, however if hes here for 20 years cuz he is consistently winning big then I think we will all be happy.

seasonhog

Quote from: LZH on September 28, 2014, 05:41:43 pm
If this thing goes south from here on out, you guys deserve everything you get.


The brain-washing is rampant as of late.

The last few weeks the confession booth has been full.............

20 year..........of what.....................?

southarkhog06

Quote from: WorfHog on September 28, 2014, 06:03:23 pm
If he continues to show that he can't finish a game something needs to change. That's four SEC wins in a row that I've watched vanish.  That's on the coaches.
young teams without a lot of upperclassmen contributers in the middle of a rebuild usually have trouble finishing games. would you rather not be competitive at all? If this is still happening next year on a regular basis its a problem but for now its a young team that had 3 bad quarters this year, its not like its against scrubs either.

seasonhog

Quote from: DawgTownHog on September 28, 2014, 05:57:41 pm
When it comes right down to it LZH doesn't like Bielema, he has valid reasons. I don't agree with him and he's been playing nice of late but....


LZH, you need to learn how to like losing.....................what is wrong with you..

chitwnhog

Quote from: seasonhog on September 28, 2014, 06:20:07 pm

LZH, you need to learn how to like losing.....................what is wrong with you..

Really? You shouldn't post from a place of ignorance.

LZH

If you go to the right doctor, you'll have a permanent grin on your face 24/7.  What else can I say?

chitwnhog

Quote from: LZH on September 28, 2014, 07:31:53 pm
If you go to the right doctor, you'll have a permanent grin on your face 24/7.  What else can I say?

Drugs are bad....mmmmmkay?

LZH


three hog night

Quote from: DawgTownHog on September 28, 2014, 05:57:41 pm
When it comes right down to it LZH doesn't like Bielema, he has valid reasons. I don't agree with him and he's been playing nice of late but....

His reasons are NOT valid.  He can't keep a stable posting pattern.  Drugs or Alcohol?
Petrino left a mess and Bielema is trying to fill in the talent gaps.  Anderson finally has some talent to work with.  He needs more at select positions and that will come in the next recruiting class. 
Posters that think they are Jim Rhome are ruining message boards.

seasonhog

Quote from: LZH on September 28, 2014, 08:56:13 pm
You're getting the wrong ones, cuz.

Some drugs can make one delusional............they maybe wide spead used of them on hv...

chitwnhog

Quote from: LZH on September 28, 2014, 08:56:13 pm
You're getting the wrong ones, cuz.

Meh...the happy drugs didn't do anything for me.

chitwnhog

Quote from: three hog night on September 28, 2014, 08:58:44 pm
His reasons are NOT valid.  He can't keep a stable posting pattern.  Drugs or Alcohol?

Not to defend LZH but he does have valid reasons. He worries about things like in game management and time clock management and Bielema's public persona (twittergate, etc) I personally don't agree with him but he has valid concerns.

hobhog

Quote from: LZH on September 28, 2014, 05:41:43 pm
If this thing goes south from here on out, you guys deserve everything you get.

Like what? What exactly do YOU want? What do YOU deserve? what if it goes north? Do YOU deserve anything?

Tell us your mighty wisdom. Tell us what everyone is missing except you.

Not even two years in and you're done apparently, so share your awesome vision. New coach? Fire the staff? Fans quit going to games? How about booing, that the key?

three hog night

Quote from: DawgTownHog on September 28, 2014, 09:13:57 pm
Not to defend LZH but he does have valid reasons. He worries about things like in game management and time clock management and Bielema's public persona (twittergate, etc) I personally don't agree with him but he has valid concerns.

He's a childish man that looks for excuses to pick at CBB.  The twitter stuff is old history but he uses that when CBB is winning or there aren't other excuses.  There is nothing valid for LZH as he is not the least bit reasonable, so I think he is drunk or IV'd
Petrino left a mess and Bielema is trying to fill in the talent gaps.  Anderson finally has some talent to work with.  He needs more at select positions and that will come in the next recruiting class. 
Posters that think they are Jim Rhome are ruining message boards.

The NewEra

Quote from: 3kgthog on September 28, 2014, 12:47:09 pm
I think we should be winning no fewer than 1 SEC game per year. He hasn't even accomplished that yet. But, he is a champ at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

The day you leave this board for good I'm going to throw a party. No, you won't be invited.

LZH

Quote from: hobhog on September 28, 2014, 09:24:44 pm
Like what? What exactly do YOU want? What do YOU deserve? what if it goes north? Do YOU deserve anything?

Tell us your mighty wisdom. Tell us what everyone is missing except you.

Not even two years in and you're done apparently, so share your awesome vision. New coach? Fire the staff? Fans quit going to games? How about booing, that the key?

No one can afford to fire a coach after two years.  What disappoints me isn't the playcalling, the poor special teams, the fumbles and penalties....it's the fact that we were deer in the headlights when it counted the most.  Leadership, man.  Who is responsible for the leadership?  We had A&M staggered and got scared when they bowed up.  Now who's responsibility is it to tell these kids to suck it up and put them away?

BB's had a lot of success and I've never complained about his gang-bang brand of football.  But I can't help but think that he did nothing when our kids got tentative as A&M went balls-to-the-wall.  Maybe he threw a fit and it didn't work....I can't say.  However, if we'd have won he would have gotten the credit....so........