Louisiana newspaper suggests Ark in lead for 4-star CB Deshawn Raymond

[Hoggy Bear]

http://sports.yahoo.com/arkansas/football/recruiting/player-DeShawn-Raymond-159436

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2014/09/an_overview_of_lsus_recruiting.html

[Hawgvillain]

Will be very tough to get him away from LSU...

[AugustaHog]

Pair this kid with Henre and we are going to be nasty on the outside.  Those LA boys have a lil dog in em and they aren't afraid to bite.  I love what Eugene and Cornelius have shown.  I expect Santos to be a player too.

[Birminghog]

Will our win and LSU's loss help us with him?

[redeye]

Will be very tough to get him away from LSU...

That's what we heard with Santos Ramirez last year.  Let's hope our success in LA continues to grow.

[The Hogfather]

We need this young man!

[Pudgepork]

Will our win and LSU's loss help us with him?

probably not.  But it won't hurt.    If misstake hadn't blown up and come away with a 20 point win all of the recruits would notice.   LSU is going to have to go through coaching changes and scandals before they'd compare with where Arkansas is climbing from

[alwaysnextyear]

That's what we heard with Santos Ramirez last year.  Let's hope our success in LA continues to grow.

Here we go again. It's widely known LSU was his first choice.

[Choctaw Hog]

Here we go again. It's widely known LSU was his first choice.

Here we go again. It's widely known that every player from Louisiana wants to stay in Louisiana and play for the Tigers.  NO EXCEPTIONS!  NONE!  Especially knowing that the Tigers continue to regress under Les "with more" Miles. 

And the mantra from the losers is loud and strong:
- Arkansas has NO chance to sign (insert name) so there is no need to try.
- Never take a chance because you might not succeed.
- Never aspire to be the best you can be because you might "fail". 
- Stay in your comfort zone because it's the easy thing to do. 
- Never be optimistic because you might be disappointed. 
- Always look at the negatives in everything because it's easy and a lot of company in that group. 

They just can't help themselves because it's just what losers do. 

[LJHOG]

I would like to see him sign with us.  I truly believe it would be in his best interests.  Our coaching staff is doing a good job preparing young for life not just football.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Here we go again. It's widely known LSU was his first choice.

Really?! Is that so?! I mean go back and reread (or read if you haven't already) the NOLA article which basically states the while a lot of folks ASSUME that LSU is his first choice, "not fast my friend" is more a appropriate approach. The article states that the Hogs and even TCU could have a lead at this point because DR wants to play early and he feels the Tigers are pretty much loaded at CB. In this case a legitimate chance to play early and contribute in a meaningful way as a freshman just might win out. In any event IF we were take a major talent out of LA. it would certainly raise some eyebrows. Then again it appears that this is a trend (getting very solid out of state talent) that's become more common place over the past year or so under CBB and staff.

[tusksincolorado]

Here we go again. It's widely known that every player from Louisiana wants to stay in Louisiana and play for the Tigers.  NO EXCEPTIONS!  NONE!  Especially knowing that the Tigers continue to regress under Les "with more" Miles. 

And the mantra from the losers is loud and strong:
- Arkansas has NO chance to sign (insert name) so there is no need to try.
- Never take a chance because you might not succeed.
- Never aspire to be the best you can be because you might "fail". 
- Stay in your comfort zone because it's the easy thing to do. 
- Never be optimistic because you might be disappointed. 
- Always look at the negatives in everything because it's easy and a lot of company in that group. 

They just can't help themselves because it's just what losers do.

OMG...say it isn't so! We have a possible return of "THE NUTTERS!

[jackflash]

We recruited LA well last year. I believe we do so this year. Lot of talent in LA lived in Shreveport for 10 years. With the players we got last year coming and playing right a way. Will make more players come to Arkansas and take a look.

[alwaysnextyear]

Really?! Is that so?! I mean go back and reread (or read if you haven't already) the NOLA article which basically states the while a lot of folks ASSUME that LSU is his first choice, "not fast my friend" is more a appropriate approach. The article states that the Hogs and even TCU could have a lead at this point because DR wants to play early and he feels the Tigers are pretty much loaded at CB. In this case a legitimate chance to play early and contribute in a meaningful way as a freshman just might win out. In any event IF we were take a major talent out of LA. it would certainly raise some eyebrows. Then again it appears that this is a trend (getting very solid out of state talent) that's become more common place over the past year or so under CBB and staff.

Reading comprehension. Clearly I was talking about Ramirez. Damn.

[Vantage 8 dude]

Reading comprehension. Clearly I was talking about Ramirez. Damn.

Well obviously "my bad". It wasn't totally clear to me so there ya' go.

[SemperFi]

Here we go again. It's widely known that every player from Louisiana wants to stay in Louisiana and play for the Tigers.  NO EXCEPTIONS!  NONE!  Especially knowing that the Tigers continue to regress under Les "with more" Miles. 

And the mantra from the losers is loud and strong:
- Arkansas has NO chance to sign (insert name) so there is no need to try.
- Never take a chance because you might not succeed.
- Never aspire to be the best you can be because you might "fail". 
- Stay in your comfort zone because it's the easy thing to do. 
- Never be optimistic because you might be disappointed. 
- Always look at the negatives in everything because it's easy and a lot of company in that group. 

They just can't help themselves because it's just what losers do.   

Outstanding post! Misery loves company and has always been the easy road to take.

Get these kids on campus and let them see first hand the direction that this program under Coach B and staff are taking it. Great things are coming.

[Rocky&Boarwinkle]

On an amusing side note.

NOLA's coverage team includes Jim Kleinpeter

klein means short or small in German.

That is an unfortunate last name.

[Ball Hawk]

Kid can ball. He'd be the #1 CB the day he steps on campus

[alwaysnextyear]

Kid can ball. He'd be the #1 CB the day he steps on campus

That's a stretch.

[Hawgzinbowlz]

Early playing time.

Every recruit is an individual with their own set of priorities.

Coach Michael Smith is earning his keep with his recruiting of Louisiana. He's changed The Hogs recruiting dynamic in the swampland.

We're building a winner.

" GO HOGS "

[Vantage 8 dude]

On an amusing side note.

NOLA's coverage team includes Jim Kleinpeter

klein means short or small in German.

That is an unfortunate last name.

Thanks so much for the "Jeopardy" bit of education when it comes to languages. Now I'll certainly know that the next time I visit Germany. 

[Rocky&Boarwinkle]

I like to share my own personal amusement.  Glad you enjoyed it as well.

It probably started as a description of two "peters" in town, which is a very common first name.  And they called one "short" and one "tall".  the name stuck and it became the family name.

Still funny to me nonetheless.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Will be very tough to get him away from LSU...

IDK.. If he's the uncommon type we have been accumulating on The Hill he may very well go where he feels more comfortable. We may be in it to win it. I believe if our coaches pursue him past LSU then he will be worth it.

[Tusks]

I think the hogs are in the lead because the LSU depth chart is full and they have (I think) 2 DB commits that are top 15.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Raymond would be a major steal.  A difference maker.

[Bubba's Bruisers]

I think the hogs are in the lead because the LSU depth chart is full and they have (I think) 2 DB commits that are top 15.

And we'll take them however we can get them.

[redeye]

Here we go again. It's widely known LSU was his first choice.

What you don't know is that LSU came after him hard, late last year, but he never wavered from Arkansas.

Lot's of schools have had good luck stealing Louisiana players away from LSU lately, so I don't know why it's so hard for some of us to believe we could do the same.

[hogansas]

What you don't know is that LSU came after him hard, late last year, but he never wavered from Arkansas.

Lot's of schools have had good luck stealing Louisiana players away from LSU lately, so I don't know why it's so hard for some of us to believe we could do the same.

I know for a fact that our staff is working hard to maintain a presence in Louisiana.  I am sure that others get them, but I have personally seen flyers that the staff has sent to schools.  One in particular is a picture with all of our Louisiana guys in uniform holding their fingers up in an L shape.  There is also a picture of CBB with his quote about how he wants to send 10 guys down there because those Louisiana kids play ball the right way.  It may not be much, but it does say something, especially if non-biased coaches actually show them to the kids.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Does anyone know why Raymond's brother transferred out of LSU?

[alwaysnextyear]

What you don't know is that LSU came after him hard, late last year, but he never wavered from Arkansas.

Lot's of schools have had good luck stealing Louisiana players away from LSU lately, so I don't know why it's so hard for some of us to believe we could do the same.

What? They didn't come on hard late. He went to their camp and received a non-commitable. That's a fact. I just hate it when uninformed people make us look like idiots to opposing fanbases.

[hawgmasta]

Please. Please. Please.

[redeye]

What? They didn't come on hard late. He went to their camp and received a non-commitable. That's a fact. I just hate it when uninformed people make us look like idiots to opposing fanbases.

I don't remember where I read it, but somewhere it was reported that LSU made the offer commitable at a later date.  I think it was shortly before he committed to Arkansas.  I know he had wanted to go to LSU and can't tell you why he chose Arkansas.

If you're worried about what opposing fanbases think, then maybe you don't belong here?

[Hawg_Thai'd]

What? They didn't come on hard late. He went to their camp and received a non-commitable. That's a fact. I just hate it when uninformed people make us look like idiots to opposing fanbases.

with all due respect, Frank the opposing fanbases.

[Tim Harris]

Here we go again. It's widely known that every player from Louisiana wants to stay in Louisiana and play for the Tigers.  NO EXCEPTIONS!  NONE!  Especially knowing that the Tigers continue to regress under Les "with more" Miles. 

And the mantra from the losers is loud and strong:
- Arkansas has NO chance to sign (insert name) so there is no need to try.
- Never take a chance because you might not succeed.
- Never aspire to be the best you can be because you might "fail". 
- Stay in your comfort zone because it's the easy thing to do. 
- Never be optimistic because you might be disappointed. 
- Always look at the negatives in everything because it's easy and a lot of company in that group. 

They just can't help themselves because it’s just what losers do. 

Sure there are exceptions but LSU doesn't miss on many in state kids that they truly want.

[Pig in the Pokey]

On an amusing side note.

NOLA's coverage team includes Jim Kleinpeter

klein means short or small in German.

That is an unfortunate last name.

lol

[ARtillahog]

Sure there are exceptions but LSU doesn't miss on many in state kids that they truly want.

Sad but true.

[KeithStone]

I think the hogs are in the lead because the LSU depth chart is full and they have (I think) 2 DB commits that are top 15.

Nice post, valuable, relevant, concise information.  +1 to you!  To everyone else bickering, which is making this thread impossible to read, go outside, have a smoke and relax a little.  There are significantly more pressing things in life than who was more in the know on an 18 year old kid that didn't even choose Arkansas.

[redeye]

Nice post, valuable, relevant, concise information.  +1 to you!  To everyone else bickering, which is making this thread impossible to read, go outside, have a smoke and relax a little.  There are significantly more pressing things in life than who was more in the know on an 18 year old kid that didn't even choose Arkansas.

http://www.arkansasrazorbacks.com/sport/m-footbl/2014/roster/53d90db4e4b0ad6118573903

[mmhogs17]

Sure there are exceptions but LSU doesn't miss on many in state kids that they truly want.

Well, Louisiana was raided last year by several teams.

[redeye]

Well, Louisiana was raided last year by several teams.

Using the 247 Composite, LSU only signed 5 of Louisiana's top-10, 10 of the top-20 and 13 of the top-30 last year.

[tophawg19]

What? They didn't come on hard late. He went to their camp and received a non-commitable. That's a fact. I just hate it when uninformed people make us look like idiots to opposing fanbases.

your about as uninformed as it gets . You bring nothing but negativity to the board , just as your name implies . Make no mistake , there are big time kids in LA . looking to go out of state just as there are Arkansas kids looking to leave . LSU did contact Santos , after he committed to see if he would flip, but then i think you knew that. Just doesn't fit your Agenda .

[Music City Hog]

This tells me all I need to know:

"You have to look at LSU being the home school and my mom and grandma want me to go there bad," he informed.

[ricepig]

This tells me all I need to know:

"You have to look at LSU being the home school and my mom and grandma want me to go there bad," he informed.

Pull a Landon Collins and come to Arkansas, instead of Bama, haha.

[Huds_HawgTide]

He is loving the hog love

[BigPapaHawg]

Would be real nice to get this kid!

[redeye]

This tells me all I need to know:

"You have to look at LSU being the home school and my mom and grandma want me to go there bad," he informed.

Alex Collins   

[pigture perfect]

That's a stretch.

I take it that you are an LSU fan?

[Fort Dweller]

I take it that you are an LSU fan?

The statement he responded to was about this kid being the #1 CB the moment he set foot on our campus.  Toliver disagrees.

[IBleedRazorbackRed]

I wouldn't hold my breath on him. He was supposed to officially visit for the bama game, but he didn't make it.

[The Recruiting Guy]

I wouldn't hold my breath on him. He was supposed to officially visit for the bama game, but he didn't make it.

His uncle couldn't make it so that's the reason for the delay. He and his uncle are real close.