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Casting a wide net in recruiting

Started by greenie, August 29, 2014, 05:05:09 pm

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greenie

I'm sure that most of you are already aware of the concept of "committable" and "non-committable offers", and have said as much in many posts in the Recruiting Forum.  For my own edification, I decided to do a little research and found the results interesting so decided to post. 

News Flash: It seems that this whole concept of a "non-committable" offer is a real recruiting technique, apparently used to some extent by ALL major college football programs.

In hindsight, it should have been obvious to me when you consider that many programs give out over 100 offers every year.  They couldn't all be "committable".  Lots of debate out there about how these offers are used, but it certainly is a reality that they *are* used and sometimes result in hurt feelings late in the game...Life lessons in big-time recruiting.

As of June 15 2014, the number of offers extended for by the 2013 AP top 25 schools for the 2015 class:

1) Florida State: 178
2) Auburn: 151
3) Michigan State: 129
4) South Carolina: 150
5) Missouri: 133
6) Oklahoma: 127
7) Alabama: 202
8 ) Clemson: 191
9) Oregon: 101
10) UCF: 151
11) Stanford: 64
12) Ohio State: 197
13) Baylor: 79
14) LSU: 138
15) Louisville: 300
16) UCLA: 135
17) Oklahoma State: 71
18) Texas A&M: 100
19) USC: 97
20) Arizona State: 194
21) Notre Dame: 164
22) Wisconsin: 237
23) Duke: 198
24) Vanderbilt: 87
25) Washington: 102

Source:  https://stanford.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1650792 

I dug this out of the Rivals database today for Arkansas.  Considering the researcher, the veracity of this data is in question...but it's my best effort.

Arkansas 2015 class: 176 offers
Breakdown:
Ath = 7
DB = 32
LB = 21
DE = 18
DT = 9
K = 1
OL = 33
QB = 2
RB = 25
TE = 9
WR = 19

I'm sure the "positional demographics" of these offers is affected by lots of things, including the team's offensive and defensive philosophies, immediate needs, and player availability.  Regardless, interesting stuff.

Another interesting stat for 2014: number of offers per signee

1) Florida State: 246 offers; signed 28 players (8.79 offers per signee)
2) Auburn: 154 offers; signed 24 players (6.42 offers per signee)
3) Michigan State: 177 offers; signed 22 players (8.05 offers per signee)
4) South Carolina: 143 offers; signed 21 players (6.81 offers per signee)
5) Missouri: 219 offers; signed 28 players (7.82 offers per signee)
6) Oklahoma: 178 offers; signed 27 players (6.59 offers per signee)
7) Alabama: 189 offers; signed 26 players (7.27 offers per signee)
8 ) Clemson: 155 offers; signed 22 players (7.05 offers per signee)
9) Oregon: 91 offers; signed 20 players (4.55 offers per signee)
10) UCF: 160 offers; signed 17 players (9.41 offers per signee)
11) Stanford: 84 offers; signed 20 players (4.2 offers per signee)
12) Ohio State: 193 offers; signed 23 players (8.39 offers per signee)
13) Baylor: 123 offers; signed 24 players (5.13 offers per signee)
14) LSU: 119 offers; signed 24 players (4.96 offers per signee)
15) Louisville: 209 offers; signed 24 players (8.71 offers per signee)
16) UCLA: 163 offers; signed 18 players (9.06 offers per signee)
17) Oklahoma State: 117 offers; signed 27 players (4.33 offers per signee)
18) Texas A&M: 100 offers; signed 21 players (4.76 offers per signee)
19) USC: 141 offers; signed 19 players (7.52 offers per signee)
20) Arizona State: 219 offers; signed 26 players (8.42 offers per signee)
21) Notre Dame: 160 offers; signed 23 players (6.96 offers per signee)
22) Wisconsin: 242 offers; signed 25 players (9.68 offers per signee)
23) Duke: 131 offers; signed 18 players (7.28 offers per signee)
24) Vanderbilt: 268 offers; signed 22 players (12.18 offers per signee)
25) Washington: 150 offers; signed 23 players (6.52 offers per signee)

Some teams cast a wider net than others.

FBREW000

LOL  @ Louisville with 300 offers....


 

Qhog

Agreed.  First thing that jumped out at me.  As we know, BP is a good coach, but the baggage is tough for recruits and parents.

Pork Twain

Plus it is not like the players or coaches loved him or he could say, "I will make you a star in the NFL."
"It is better to be an optimist and proven wrong, than a pessimist and proven right." ~Pork Twain

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